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yvr girl 06-01-2004 03:04 PM

I know that the Queen's full name is: Anne-Marie Dagmar Ingrid. I have never been able to find out if the rest of the family have middle names. It's hard to believe that they wouldn't - royalty always seems to have several middle names. Does anyone have any information?

Roos 06-01-2004 04:55 PM

They don't have any middle names because they are orthodox.That's why Prince Philip of England only has one name, which is Philip.(obviously :rolleyes: )

cuervo 06-02-2004 07:20 AM

Our King has only one name:Konstantine

according to the greek tradition as rightly said before we name babiew only with one name usually of their Grand Father or grand Mother's if its a girl.In case we love our ancestors :heart: and they are many,we may name babies with two names just to honor them all!!The late fashion in Greece is that we give one name from the bible and one from our Ancient Greek Tradition!


:flower:

helleniki 06-04-2004 09:28 PM

Princess SOFIA
King KONSTANTINOS
Princess IRENE

Princess ALEXIA
Crown Prince PAVLOS
Prince NIKOLAOS
Princess THEODORA
Prince PHILIPPOS

But...
Princess MARIA OLIMPIA
Prince KONSTANTINOS ALEXIOS
Prince ACHILEAS-ANDREAS

kelly9480 06-04-2004 10:30 PM

Not true. Pavlos' children have one name, but it is hyphenated.

Maria-Olympia
Constantine-Alexios
Achilleas-Andreas

Those are each one name because of the hyphen.

yvr girl 06-05-2004 02:15 AM

Thank you for your answers. It seemed strange to me, because royalty always seems to have multiple names. But now I understand, that it is tradition.

kelly9480 06-05-2004 11:58 AM

I think it has more to do with the Orthodox faith, rather than any family tradition. I don't think any of the Orthodox royals (Bulgaria, Russia, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, Montenegro, there may be some I've missed) have more than one name, thought Russians have patronymics.

moody 06-05-2004 01:06 PM

I think that Russians,Bulgarians,Serbians and Montenegrin have patronyms because it is their tradition!But when they call their King they call it by His name and not Patronym!Ex:King Alexandar and not King Karageorgevich...The same with Czar It was Czar Nikolay Ftaroy(second)never Romanov.They call the dynasty the greater Family Romanov....Today,in Bulgaria oposition calls King Symeon with his Patronym(Saxkoburg)but he is involved in Politics as Premier.....

kelly9480 06-06-2004 01:46 PM

Saxecoburggotski is Simeon's dynasty or family name. His patronymic would involve his father's given name. It would be something like Simeon Borisovich (the Russian version of "son of Boris").

Nikolai II's name and patronymic was Nikolai Alexandrovich. His regnal name may have been Nikolai Ftoray, but Ftoray did not become his patronymic.

kelly9480 06-06-2004 01:50 PM

He has never been known officially as Konstantinos-Alexios. Only as Constantine-Alexios. If they named him K-A, surely they would call him that.
I don't know where they got M-O, and A-A's names from. If they gave an interview explaining it, I never saw it.

Blueice 06-06-2004 08:02 PM

Well pointed out - patronymic is not accustomed among Slavs apart from Russia and a few former Soviet republics/states. Monarchs in Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria...etc. are referred to by title and first name, or full name - i.e. HRH King Alexandar Karadjordjevic ... In which case Karadjordjevic would be a family name/ last name/ surname - not a patronymic.

USCtrojan 06-06-2004 09:23 PM

When Konstantinos-Alexios was born, that is how his name was announced when he was shown to the public and baptised. Am I the only one who remembers this? Why would they name him Constantine-Alexios, when his grandfathers name is really spelled the greek way: KONSTANTINOS?? His name is spelled Konstantinos (grandfather Konstantinos) - ALEXIOS (aunt Alexia?)......

cuervo 06-07-2004 12:47 PM

I think it goes like that: KONSTANTINE means constant-stable

ALEXIOS means easy to move -flexible

They are both of byzantine origin!It is to honor Princes Alexia(aunt)...


MARIA - the name comes from Bible is the Mother of Jesus
OLYMPIA - is the place where ancient greece cosetrated in Peace for Olympic
Games or means the girl who lives in Olympos,so... Devine ???...


ACHILLEAS - was the Ancient king of Pylos - (Troy : :lol: )
ANDREAS - was son of King George-Prince Andreas of Greece..I hope Iam right! If Iam wrong please corect me!!

Officially, in Greece there are Patronyms.E.g:We say Sakis Pouvas touGianni,but for our Royals No because they all are recognisable by name!

cuervo 06-07-2004 01:01 PM

Bulgarian opposition calls Symeon .Saxkomburga.Opponents also.Fans call him Symeon -at least in Sadanski(town I was last weekend) :innocent:

The patronyms are used by the most of slavian nations instead of use of the family name when they decided that the word Gospodin(sir) was too Borzoi and replace it with the word "Tavarish".So, family names was not even mentioned!That is to vanish all the old Russian family names from everyday's life!!

kelly9480 06-08-2004 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chanel@Jun 6th, 2004 - 7:23 pm
When Konstantinos-Alexios was born, that is how his name was announced when he was shown to the public and baptised. Am I the only one who remembers this? Why would they name him Constantine-Alexios, when his grandfathers name is really spelled the greek way: KONSTANTINOS?? His name is spelled Konstantinos (grandfather Konstantinos) - ALEXIOS (aunt Alexia?)......
They list him as Constantine-Alexios with their official announcements. If they actually named him Konstantinos-Alexios (on his birth certificate) they should call him that. They may translate his name whenever the mood strikes them, (they certainly change Achilleas -- MC calls him Achille (the French way)), but that would only be something MC and Pavlos do, because KIIR's kids are known by their Greek names rather than the English equivalent.

helleniki 06-11-2004 07:52 PM

Royal Family Names
 
I would like to know the correct way to right the names of the Greek Royal Family, please.

Thanks in advance.

cuervo 06-12-2004 01:20 PM

One mistake everybody does is The Name of Our King:KONSTANTINOS is His Majestys Name...Of cource in English it is Constantine but I dont like the abreviations of it!!In modern greek there is not letter C. KΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ Β΄' ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ.

Katalaves?Helinokotati? ;)

kelly9480 06-12-2004 01:55 PM

If Constantine made it a point to refer to himself as Konstantinos, I'm sure everyone else would, too. But he calls himself Constantine when he speaks to English language media, so he's allowed, and possibly even encouraged, the use of the English version.

helleniki 06-12-2004 11:31 PM

Ok, but I would like to know the right way to wright the greek names...

How do we should wright in Greek the names:

Constantine
Sophie
Anne
Mary
Elizabeth
Paul
Philipp
Andrew
Alexander
etc...

...using of course the latin alphabet...

Thanks in advance...

helleniki 06-12-2004 11:47 PM

The English say:

King Juan Carlos I of Spain, not King John Charles I;
Queen Beatrix I of the Netherlands, not Queen Beatrice I;
Queen Paola of the Belgians (she is Italian), no Queen Paula;
Crown Prince Felipe of Spain, not Crown Prince Philipp;
Crown Prince Philippe of Belgium, not Crown Prince Philipp;

So, we must say
King Konstantinos II of the Hellenes, not Constantine;
Crown Prince Pavlos of Greece, not Crown Prince Paul (I heard in an interview Queen Anna-Maria saying 'Pavlos' and not 'Paul');
etc.


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