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principessa 09-30-2009 04:52 AM

Ari Behn's mental issues
 
Svenskdamtidning has a report about Ari Behn. He said that he "would sooner or later thrown out of the family home".

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dazzling 09-30-2009 04:59 AM

BB is has a report and part of an interview of Ari admitting there are problems between him and his wife

Princess Märtha Louise's husband acknowledges problems
Article in english ** Original article

Her_Majesty 09-30-2009 05:06 AM

Seher.no

There are several articles in the Norwegian press that say that Ari Behn admits he is suffering from chronical depressions and that it is only getting worse.
A quote:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Behn
"My wife and girls are the best in the world but as a husband, I am difficult to treat. Sorry. I'm terribly bad for practical things and it annoys everyone. Including myself."

(BB)

dazzling 09-30-2009 05:10 AM

Is he really suffering depression? Could it be a cause of alot of pressure marrying into the royal family? or did he suffer from depression before he married?
Its sad because he has a wonderful family and a very outgoing joyful wife.

Her_Majesty 09-30-2009 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 997861)
Is he really suffering depression? Could it be a cause of alot of pressure marrying into the royal family? or did he suffer from depression before he married?

I don't know... at least he says that....

A reporter asked that question, too...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kjendis
- When he says he is chronically depressed, he believes that he is mentally ill or is it simply a speech he uses to describe its natural disposition?

-Without that I should go in and interpret what he says: It's not so unusual for artists and writers who put greater and greater demands on themselves, while the experience of youth self-confidence and arrogance crumble, experience to go into a certain depression, there is an artist's nature, says Rønningen.

source:
- Ari var helt ærlig - kjendis - Dagbladet.no


I don't know. This is just weird. It's weird that Ari Behn first talks about this mental issues in a very pessimistic interview and doesn't want to comment afterwards.
Why does he talk about it in public at all? :huh:
Didn't he (and also Märtha Louise) want to keep their private lifes away from public as much as possible?

dazzling 09-30-2009 10:30 AM

Its away of seeking attention. Anyone who wants attention goes to the press.
IMO, instead of taking it to the press why not take it to someone who can help.

Duke of Marmalade 09-30-2009 10:45 AM

sorry to say this but the first thing that came to my mind is "does he publish a new book soon that needs some extra promotion?" ari has done controversial topics before (drugs, prostitutes) and as somebody said before writers or artists like to flirt with issues like addiction, depression etc, it gives them a more authentic image.

i am aware that depression is a serious illness but at the same time it deserves to be addressed as such, meaning not in an attention-seeking way via mass media. by doing so it is clear that family issues will become the subject of gossip, what is careless for a family that claims to be "private".

Her_Majesty 09-30-2009 10:51 AM

Another article by Side2
ARI BEHN - - Ari snakker ikke om en skilsmisse - Nettavisen

The article says that editor Magnus S. Rønningen, who did interview with Ari Behn , thinks that the analysis of the interview (done by many magazines; like BB and Se&Hör) lost the context of the original interview.

You can read more here:

Article English translation

sgl 09-30-2009 12:04 PM

If he does indeed suffer from a mental illness, I hope that he gets the help that he needs. This could also turn out to be something positive. If he gets help, maybe he will be able to put the spotlight on mental illness. It is something that is worldwide, and affects people from all social classes. Unfortunately it has such a negative stigma. Maybe Ari Behn could speak out against the negative image of mental illness. He could urge others to get help, and possibly put pressure on medical clinics and governments to improve and offer more programs designed to help those with mental illness.

antonieta 09-30-2009 12:57 PM

I just hope he get´s better, if he's really suffering of a mental illness.

amina1 09-30-2009 05:28 PM

Did he addmit on having a mental illness? I don't think so, he just said, he's difficult to live with...it could mean anything...:ermm:, anyway, wish him well if it is a mental illness, that's serious...

Odette 09-30-2009 05:33 PM

Poor Martha Louise. Whether he is seriously ill or does it for publicity it is an awful
gesture on his part.
Whatever happenned to privacy and descretion?

Katrianna 10-01-2009 12:50 AM

Perhaps we can get some feedback from our Norwegian members and hear what they have to say about all of this. Thanks in advance.

rominet09 10-01-2009 09:37 AM

Is it a preparation of the public for an announcement of a divorce ?

grevinnan 10-01-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odette (Post 998159)
Poor Martha Louise. Whether he is seriously ill or does it for publicity it is an awful
gesture on his part.
Whatever happenned to privacy and descretion?

Would the comment have been the same if he had broken his leg or amputated an arm? Depression and mental illnesses are no more shameful than other ailments. Ari was being interviewed and refreshingly open about himself. King Harald's heart surgery was openly discussed yet no comments then about privacy and discretion.

Marengo 10-01-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by grevinnan (Post 998373)
Would the comment have been the same if he had broken his leg or amputated an arm? Depression and mental illnesses are no more shameful than other ailments. Ari was being interviewed and refreshingly open about himself. King Harald's heart surgery was openly discussed yet no comments then about privacy and discretion.

I agree with you 100% gerevinnan! I think it is good that he speaks out, or at least that the court says what is going on. The same happened with prince Claus of The Netherlands in the 80'ties.

Guido 10-01-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rominet09 (Post 998348)
Is it a preparation of the public for an announcement of a divorce ?


Everything is possible.

Marsel 10-01-2009 10:58 AM

I agree there is nothing wrong with Ari’s admission of having a mental illness. However, I wonder whether someone could give a direct translation of what exactly he said: as far as I could read, Ari didn’t actually said he had a mental illness, just that he is a difficult person to live with (which was also somehow interpreted as difficulties to the point of break up in his marriage).

Her_Majesty 10-01-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rominet09 (Post 998348)
Is it a preparation of the public for an announcement of a divorce ?

Well, Ari never talked about a divorce.
In the Side2 article (I posted above) it was mentioned that Ari never talked about a seperation. This was only the interpretation by magazines like BB or S&H.
Actually Ari said that his wife and children are the best he could imagine.

I somehow don't think there'll be an announcement of a seperation/ divorce or whatever...

I just can say: if Ari really suffers from depressions I hope he gets the help he needed. I seriously hope that this interview wasn't just a weird PR thing to promote his next book.

rubies 10-01-2009 02:20 PM

I believe there must be 'more to the story' I will keep my sympathy for his wife until then. As some of us know, marriage is a very complicated relationship(even the good ones are not easy) and for him to go to the press to me is disrespectful to his wife. It would have been different if she were sitting there with him.

Her_Majesty 10-01-2009 02:26 PM

:previous:I see your point and agree.
That was my first thought, too. Well, I hope Märtha knew he was going to talk about his "mental issues" in this interview.
On the other hand I also agree with what grevinnan and Marengo said earlier in this thread.:ermm:
My feeling about this Ari-Behn-Interview are very ambivalent.

Lumutqueen 10-01-2009 03:13 PM

I'm glad he has admitted an illness, and i do hope that he gets the correct treatment, i would hate this to ruin his marriage. Him and Marth-Louise are perfect for each other. :flowers:

Dierna23 10-01-2009 08:52 PM

If it is true, I as well see no problem with it that Ari Behn talked about his mental illness in an interview. I wish him a good treatment, soon recovery and I also hope it will not weigh down the marriage too much.

rominet09 10-02-2009 12:16 AM

I really hope so ! This would be terrible for the girls !
Quote:

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty (Post 998469)
Well, Ari never talked about a divorce.
In the Side2 article (I posted above) it was mentioned that Ari never talked about a seperation. This was only the interpretation by magazines like BB or S&H.
Actually Ari said that his wife and children are the best he could imagine.

I somehow don't think there'll be an announcement of a seperation/ divorce or whatever...

I just can say: if Ari really suffers from depressions I hope he gets the help he needed. I seriously hope that this interview wasn't just a weird PR thing to promote his next book.


susan alicia 10-02-2009 02:42 AM

Is it just me or does being mentally ill seem too heavy a label to put on someone who is depressed. There are so many variations of depression and many people are occasionally depressed in their lives (and perhaps take medication for it).

I might be wrong but I think being mentally ill is hereditary which is all the more terrible for the family.

iowabelle 10-02-2009 08:23 PM

Ari's comments seem self-indulgent IMO, and for some reason he seems hopeless, as if he doesn't want to seek help and potentially get better.

Many people in my family have suffered with this problem (maybe it's a common problem for Norwegians like Ari and me?--although I bet Seasonal Affective Disorder probably has some role in this), and it's inconceivable to me that you give up.

RubyPrincess168 10-03-2009 02:16 AM

'Mentally Ill' is too heavy a label for depression IMO. But I have to wonder when Ari talks about being chronically depressed, if he's really more of a manic-depression type. There certainly are pleanty of treatments and medications out there for depression - no need for a pity party. Just get help.

kalnel 10-03-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iowabelle (Post 999061)
Ari's comments seem self-indulgent IMO, and for some reason he seems hopeless, as if he doesn't want to seek help and potentially get better.\.

I agree. The whole thing sounded self-indulgent and extremely pretentious to me. Sometimes I think people invent problems for themselves so they can seem more "artistic," as if their "tortured souls" are just too delicate and different to deal with everyday life.

Sadly, I think these things sometimes become self-fulfilling prophesies.

iowabelle 10-03-2009 04:18 PM

Call me a little impatient with Ari... but I think there's a difference between being artistic and allowing oneself to wallow in depression and then discussing it in public.

Aside from his work, Ari has a lovely family and I would assume they're financially better off than millions of people in the world. And in Norway he would have access to decent health care. I think he ought to quit his whining in public.

I would have a different response if he had admitted he suffered from depression and that he was seeking help (and that other depressed people can seek help, too, etc.).

Odette 10-03-2009 04:47 PM

I feel that if he had broken a leg as was suggested, he would not run to give an interview about it and say he got kicked out of the house more than once (Perhaps something was lost in translation and I misunderstood the statement)
I agree that if this was something that had to be aired and publicised, Martha Louise's presence by his side would seem like a battle they are fighting together to preserve their marriage.
Matha Louise became a private citizen after her marriage to pursue a life away from the court and its restrictions. Why can't her husband respect her position?
Mental illness and depression are serious issues and most times not discussed in a constructive way, however I find it bad form for Ari to go and give interviews about it.

lise 10-04-2009 12:08 AM

I have depression I may not be popular after I've posted this but I'm going to post it anyway.

There seems to be alot of negative posts in this thread. People with depression need your support not your negative stigma.

Something Ari is quoted as saying makes complete sense to me. I find doing pratical things hard too, your brain tells your body to do these things but nothing happens.

When you have depression you often feel better after talking to someone, but it can be hard to find someone that will listen and not judge you.

Finally a couple of small things depression is a mental ilness judging by the tone of some posts here some people do not take it seriously as a mental illness and lastly despression is hereditary, my grandfather has it too.

Katrianna 10-04-2009 12:29 AM

lise, you're fine in my book and thank you for your courage in speaking up. Yes, depression and all mental illness should be treated as disease and many of the conditions are genetically inherited as scientists are discovering. It's a tragedy that in the twenty first century, addiction is accepted by the general public while mental illness is still considered a stigma and weakness by said public.

Dierna23 10-04-2009 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lise (Post 999478)
I have depression I may not be popular after I've posted this but I'm going to post it anyway.

There seems to be alot of negative posts in this thread. People with depression need your support not your negative stigma.

Something Ari is quoted as saying makes complete sense to me. I find doing pratical things hard too, your brain tells your body to do these things but nothing happens.

When you have depression you often feel better after talking to someone, but it can be hard to find someone that will listen and not judge you.

Finally a couple of small things depression is a mental ilness judging by the tone of some posts here some people do not take it seriously as a mental illness and lastly despression is hereditary, my grandfather has it too.

I also thank you for this statement, Lise. And for the courage I had not, I also had depression a while ago, it was connected with a case of death of a very dear person in my life and I'm grateful that I can say that I'm now "cured". But thats another point in the discussion, there are a various number of different kinds of depressions.

However, as you said depression is an mental illness. Its an illness like a broken leg and though its not the same! It really shouldn't be still a stigma in the 21th century and for that we need awareness training. It never can be enough of this and if a member of a royal family suffers from depression and talks about it in the media, I see absolutely no problem with it, quite the opposite! I think in history there were enough royals with mental issues who weren't able to talk about it and had to play the role they have to play, true to the motto "everything's perfect".

marlene 10-04-2009 02:12 PM

Depression is a mental illness and is severity can vary greatly and often it can be very well hidden until it is too late.I have one friend who suffers with it and does so on an ongoing basis and three friends who took their own lives because of it.If Ari suffers from this, then lets not have the audacity to question its severity or impact on he and his family because it will indeed affect each and every one of them.It is as significant as cancer and as far reaching.I personallt applaud him for having the courage to say something.The press will probably have a field day with this ,I only hope those close to him will continue to support him.

iowabelle 10-04-2009 06:19 PM

Ilse, I was trying NOT to say it, but I have had terrible bouts of depression in my lifetime and struggle with it most of the time. I'm not criticizing him for having it, I just don't understand why he chooses to deal with it in this way. And being partially Norwegian/Swedish with a family history of depression in that branch among others, I do understand it's genetic and can happen to you despite your best efforts.

But I also think it's important to seek help for the condition and follow through with recommendations. That's not what I was hearing from reports of the interview though, and that's what made me critical of him.

Patra 10-04-2009 06:31 PM

Well I personally hate to see people go thru tough times. When there is family, and that family is royal (or famous), things only seem worse for those involved because of the publicity. Royals are just human beings too like us, the suffer, and have difficulties. I guess the difference is that no one is blogging about MY life, and we are all interested in THEIR lives!

iowabelle 10-04-2009 07:19 PM

Have to say I'm not in the least interested in Ari Behn (I just wanted to see what the uproar was about), and not too terribly interested in Princess M-L either. This whole business reminded me of when the Crown Prince of Denmark started complaining about how his parents neglected him when he was little. We all have issues, what matters is how we choose to deal with them (and royals/almost royals have more resources to deal with them than most people).

Patra 10-05-2009 09:51 AM

Very well put iowabelle, I couldnt agree more!

kalnel 10-05-2009 11:24 AM

My sympathy to those who have depression -- it certainly is a difficult illness to deal with.

My comment about Ari is more that I doubt he has it. I think he's just creating dramas around himself to attract attention.

(And, judging from the reaction on this board, it's working. Had he not given the interview, no one would have mentioned him all week!)

dazzling 10-05-2009 04:06 PM

But why would he want attention when he doesnt like it, when he trys to keep his life as private as he can?
Is it away to attract people to his work? I dont understand what his goal/point is.

iowabelle 10-05-2009 05:20 PM

I think that's it, dazzling. He wants attention, either for himself or to sell books.

It's sort of like they say about dealing with the paparazzi, the only thing worse than dealing with them is NOT dealing with them.

susan alicia 10-06-2009 04:26 AM

Unless our Scandinavian members chip in, it is just supposition on our part. He might be severely depressed, so much so that disclosure is necessary.

dazzling 10-06-2009 06:46 AM

BB has a new article syaing that Ari does not feel at home in Norway
article

Regina 10-06-2009 06:26 PM

Well, we don't know if all he wants is just creating drama to attract attention in order to sell books . Some depressed persons feel so lonely and sad that they may feel the need to be listened by strangers. Maybe the fact that others talk about them is a sign that they are still alive... I am not an expert but I don't think he's lying.

I agree that a depressed person, as Ari Behn, needs help. A medical help is sometimes needed. But it's not enough, IMO.
I really wish he may know the love of the Lord, the One who lead us to control our emotions instead of them controlling us.

All the best for him and his wife and lovely daughters.

iowabelle 10-06-2009 08:00 PM

The man wants to move to Las Vegas?? Well, that might help if he has Seasonal Affective Disorder... but it's a whole lot close to the mecca of the very intrusive American paparazzi. (I don't think Norwegians are particularly tolerant of that phenomenon.) Although I bet most Americans wouldn't know or care who he married...

susan alicia 10-06-2009 11:14 PM

can not think of a more depressing place :lol: (apart from the depression, saying you want to move to Las Vegas makes you a bit of a joke as a royal, wonder how his inlaws feel about it)

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Originally Posted by iowabelle (Post 1000902)
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The man wants to move to Las Vegas??
Well, that might help if he has Seasonal Affective Disorder... but it's a whole lot close to the mecca of the very intrusive American paparazzi. (I don't think Norwegians are particularly tolerant of that phenomenon.) Although I bet most Americans wouldn't know or care who he married...


iowabelle 10-06-2009 11:28 PM

It's not to my taste either. If nothing else, my Scandinavian skin can't take the sun! It's sort of like an American Monaco a la Somerset Maugham, a shady place for shady people.

Wonder what the king and queen make of this nonsense...

Odette 10-09-2009 01:32 PM

To those who either themselves or their loved ones suffer for depression or mental issues, my heart goes out to them and there is no stigma as far as I am concerned.
My quarrel is with a young man of means and access to the first family of a country who was accepted by them and now comes around to publicise problems he may or may not have. If Ari would donate the royalties from one of his books to a mental facility or go out to schools to discuss mental illness and reveal in the process that he also suffers from depression, I'd tip my hat to him. However the way he is (mis) handling this, is a selfish way, no matter what he expects to gain at the end.

susan alicia 10-10-2009 03:04 AM

If he is really depressed he is not up to it (yet) and if he says nonsense like I want to live in Las Vegas I somehow think everyone would rather he, untill he feels better, shuts up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1002227)
To those who either themselves or their loved ones suffer for depression or mental issues, my heart goes out to them and there is no stigma as far as I am concerned.
My quarrel is with a young man of means and access to the first family of a country who was accepted by them and now comes around to publicise problems he may or may not have. If Ari would donate the royalties from one of his books to a mental facility
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or go out to schools to discuss mental illness
and reveal in the process that he also suffers from depression, I'd tip my hat to him. However the way he is (mis) handling this, is a selfish way, no matter what he expects to gain at the end.


Odette 10-10-2009 05:46 PM

:previous: Too depressed to talk? That is all he is doing these days.
I agree that someone should ask him to stop talking and making things worse. I am not sure depressed people go about talking about themselves. Those I know, just withdraw and want to be left alone to brood.:flowers:

RoyalX 10-12-2009 07:24 PM

The original interview article. 12 pages. No divorce there. And the interview was read through and approved by Ari and the Princess before it went public. Starts on page 77. MASSIV / Digital visning

The journalist who interviewed him came with a statement later telling that the interview took about 6-7 hours and that it was a sincere and nice mood.

(I have yet to meet an artist that does not struggle with depression or likewise during creative periods, and I believe it is the depth and hight of feelings that makes a true artist.)

Patra 10-12-2009 09:20 PM

I too was wobering what the King & Queen have to say about all this- time will tell, I guess!

susan alicia 10-13-2009 02:20 AM

that is a rather romantic view of an artist. People who can use their (is it left or right?) part of their brain are much more even keeled I think.

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Originally Posted by RoyalX (Post 1003940)
The journalist who interviewed him came with a statement later telling that the interview took about 6-7 hours and that it was a sincere and nice mood.

I have yet to meet an artist that does not struggle with depression or likewise during creative periods, and I believe it is the depth and hight of feelings that makes a true artist.)


Her_Majesty 10-13-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patra (Post 1003969)
I too was wobering what the King & Queen have to say about all this- time will tell, I guess!

I don't think they'll ever comment on that at all.

Odette 10-13-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty (Post 1004179)
I don't think they'll ever comment on that at all.

Thank God for that...:flowers:

Enigma 06-30-2010 07:09 PM

looking at the pictures of cp victoria's wedding, p.martha-louise and ari seem to be happy together, they even looked happy when q.beatrix visited norway. it's obvious that ari came over his depression..although and imo he was rather putting a show... people with depression would look rather different from what they were on one occasion or another. besides, i wonder how the depression would have infected ari if p.martha-louise was the crown princess and more in the public eye?
still, one must say that each person have his own ways in dealing with the personal problems or issues and i am in no position of knowing or saying what is going on in their personal life...anyway, it's nice to see them happy. best of luck for both of them.

nascarlucy 06-30-2010 07:24 PM

I was reading the older posts and Las Vegas would be the last place someone who had depression issues to move to. It's a wonderful city don't get me wrong but not a city to live in if you are having difficulties.

When I was in the casinos, I saw many people who lost their money. If they weren't depressed, then they soon would be. I saw more people unhappy there than I have in other places. Many of these people wanted the moon, the stars and the sky. Most don't get this from Las Vegas.

Vanesa 07-01-2010 12:26 AM

Yes...I have the same impression. Las Vegas is NOT a place for a depressed person.

In fact, I think those people has lots of money and doesn't know how to do with it. This is their depression. I wish I could change my place (marrying a prince, since I'm a woman :biggrin:) to his; I would do a lot of things and wouldn't have a minute to think that I'm depressed. I've be always thankful to God that He allowed me to have a soo unwaited destiny. Of course, I know that rich people and Royalty has guman problems; that being rich and Royal doesn't spare you to be an human being and just suffer as any other people does. But you must accept that a Royal could do more things for other peeople than we do. And do things for people should surely helps to go out of a depression. Everybody knows that when we are depressed we tends to be a little self-centered, and to think all day round how sad we are, what sick we feels, how miserable we looks. Thinking about other people could help depressed people A LOT.

My own thought about it is that nowadays there's too much depressed people for the society message tell us: "love yourself", "You are a king - or a Queen -", "You rules", "You cab make the world the way you likes" and blah, blah, blah...It's very uncommon to hear "Try to make other people happy", "Think how to make others smile", "Think what people could feel about your actions", etc...We loves too much ourselves, and paradoxically, it depresses us. We feel empty inside, and sad.

I don't know if this is the case of Ari Behn, but Las Vegas, a place to go deep in gambling and autogratification cannot help him to go thourough depression. :ermm:

Vanesa.

nascarlucy 07-01-2010 07:53 PM

Royalty can help a lot of people because they are in the public eye. Weight issues, health issues, mental health issues are issues that average people have. It is easier for the average person to talk about these problemsthan someone who is royal. Traditionally any problem or issue they had was to be dealt with in private rather than in public. It's only recent times that some of them have discussed these issues in public. I would have to say that I admire a royal who is able to discuss their weight issues or any other issues they may have. I have weight issues myself so I can relate to to what they go through. If they helped one person overcome their difficulties, then they have succeeded.

COUNTESS 07-01-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanesa (Post 1105119)
Yes...I have the same impression. Las Vegas is NOT a place for a depressed person.

In fact, I think those people has lots of money and doesn't know how to do with it. This is their depression. I wish I could change my place (marrying a prince, since I'm a woman :biggrin:) to his; I would do a lot of things and wouldn't have a minute to think that I'm depressed. I've be always thankful to God that He allowed me to have a soo unwaited destiny. Of course, I know that rich people and Royalty has guman problems; that being rich and Royal doesn't spare you to be an human being and just suffer as any other people does. But you must accept that a Royal could do more things for other peeople than we do. And do things for people should surely helps to go out of a depression. Everybody knows that when we are depressed we tends to be a little self-centered, and to think all day round how sad we are, what sick we feels, how miserable we looks. Thinking about other people could help depressed people A LOT.

My own thought about it is that nowadays there's too much depressed people for the society message tell us: "love yourself", "You are a king - or a Queen -", "You rules", "You cab make the world the way you likes" and blah, blah, blah...It's very uncommon to hear "Try to make other people happy", "Think how to make others smile", "Think what people could feel about your actions", etc...We loves too much ourselves, and paradoxically, it depresses us. We feel empty inside, and sad.

I don't know if this is the case of Ari Behn, but Las Vegas, a place to go deep in gambling and autogratification cannot help him to go thourough depression. :ermm:

Vanesa.

As I am replying to these statement, I must say, that I didn't fully comprehend what you wrote. You English is very good, much better than my Spanish, but there are parts I cannot decipher, as they are really not English. But, anyway. Depression is a medical problem. It had nothing to do with a specific thing that is happening. It has to do with a basic chemical imbalance. People who have this condition, do not choose to have it and do not live their lives in this manner to be contrite. They need medical help and great understanding. You assessment of Las Vegas is at best shallow and, although, he might pick this city, there are many parts of this city that may uplift him and have nothing to do with gambling or "autogratification". Not a word used in English, but I surmise it means self-gratification. When Ari can get real help for his problem and, perhaps, medication, all these other platitiudes do nothing for him. Perhaps, there is a partiuclar mental health professional there that he is seeing.

Sister Morphine 07-02-2010 12:02 AM

The title of the thread bothers me for some reason -- it makes him sound like he's got schizophrenia or some kind of serious mental illness. Anytime I've heard someone say that a person has "mental issues", they aren't phrasing it that way to be polite.

That said, I agree with Countess. Depression IS a mental illness and needs treatment -- usually some combination of a neurotropic and therapy. Neurotropic meaning something related to the neurons in the brain (chemical) as opposed to psychotropic which would deal with things like hallucinations, voices, delusions....symptoms of other, more serious illnesses. Depression can even affect the body in a physical manner, causing aches and pains, fatigue, loss of appetite, etc. No one wants to be depressed. It's more than just being sad or feeling "blah" or being down. Everyone has days where they just feel like crap. That's not depression and making it sound like that completely trivializes it.

Marie of The Sea 03-18-2011 07:54 PM

I have always been very fond of Princes Martha Louise and have thought that part of Ari's attraction for her was that he was somewhat controversial in his writings et al. I think for his part, he was attracted to the glitz and glam of royalty, rather like the ostentaciousness of Las Vegas, which is not to take away from the town in general but pertains to the guady casino chandeliers, red carpets and emphasis on cash...showy. He seems a bit of an exhibitionist. As for his mental state, I wonder if it's a self diagnosis or has he had professional acessment? If he suffers from depression, that is very sad for it can be difficult to treat. I hope whatever condition he may have improves and he is eventually healed. I also hope this isn't part of the ground work for a divorce announcement.

Moonmaiden23 03-18-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nascarlucy (Post 1105040)
I was reading the older posts and Las Vegas would be the last place someone who had depression issues to move to. It's a wonderful city don't get me wrong but not a city to live in if you are having difficulties.

When I was in the casinos, I saw many people who lost their money. If they weren't depressed, then they soon would be. I saw more people unhappy there than I have in other places. Many of these people wanted the moon, the stars and the sky. Most don't get this from Las Vegas.


It's the last place on EARTH I would advise a depressed person to live! The temperatures are BRUTAL in the summertime...and it's not a very friendly city either. I even read it has a high suicide rate.

I have lived there and visited there...it's fun to visit but living there was the PITS.

And it's nothing like Monaco either, BTW!:ermm:


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