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Julia 05-04-2003 11:00 PM

From Reuters



Running Out for a Smoke -- and Not Stopping

Fri May 2, 2003 08:21 AM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Mayor Michael Bloomberg's smoking ban in New York bars and restaurants has given a new twist to the old bar prank of drinking and running.
The Daily News calls it "the smoke and scram" -- customers order, drink, excuse themselves to smoke a cigarette outside but do not return to pay their tab.

Bar owners say they cannot pay for extra staff to patrol the sidewalks. But at least one New York bar manager believes he has what it takes to catch the dodgers.

"I can run. I can jump the bar. I can chase them down the block," Rod Williams of the Subway Inn in Manhattan told the Daily News.

Since 1995, smoking has been banned in city restaurants with more than 35 seats. But smaller establishments, pubs with separate bar areas and stand-alone bars were exempt -- until a new law took effect March 30.

The law, initiated by former smoker Bloomberg, allowed for a 30-day grace period that ended at midnight on Wednesday.

Similar to California's anti-smoking statute and one of the stiffest in the United States, it subjects owners to fines of between $200 and $400 for a first offense and $500 to $1,000 for a second offense. The licenses of repeat offenders can be revoked.

In recent days, Manhattan's sidewalks have been chock full of huddled smokers taking a break from their revelries. But, it seems the new smoking ban does not apply to everybody.

The Daily News gossip column on Thursday said Princess Caroline of Monaco lit up at the trendy Le Cirque eatery recently. "Nobody had the nerve to tell her to put out her cigarette," one observer told the tabloid.

Julia 06-04-2003 05:33 PM

From Smoking Celebs

Princess Caroline

Has smoked "in real life" (IRL) = Yes
Profession = royalty

Her entry in the Internet Movie Database (IMDb)
Her pictures at SmokingCelebs.com

Cigar/Cigarette Brand

Winston, where?, when?

Proof she has smoked (or quit) "in real life"

up to 50 Winstons/day, Bunte Magazine (Germany), early 80's

"After picking at her salmon mousse, Caroline puffed cigs", People, Oct. 31, '83

chain-smoking her way through three packs of cigarettes a day, People, Apr. 8, '91

"photogs are complaining they can't get shots of Princess Caroline because the rule is no pix as she sips or smokes and she's rarely without a glass and/or a cigarette", LA Times, Dec. 17, '95

"chain-smokes", Bild Zeitung (Germany), Sep. 13, '96

"Caroline and [husband] Ernst light their cigarettes in perfect synchronicity", Point de Vue (France), c. Apr. '98

"At the beginning of the gala [Monaco's Red Cross Ball] Caroline chain-smoked", Bild am Sonntag (Germany), Aug. 9, '98

"not letting go of her cigarette, she did not release her father's shirt-front" during mock argument at Monaco's Red Cross Ball, Paris Match, Aug. 20, '98

"Despite her clearly visible pregnancy Princess Caroline (42) is not abstaining from alcohol and cigarettes...The good fortune of having a baby is not keeping the princess from her old habits. Again and again in Miramas (France) Caroline reached for a cigarette and treated herself to deep drags...Caroline's faux pas in Miramas was no isolated incident. The pregnant Monagasque was also seen smoking cigarettes on her winter holiday in Zurs (Switzerland)", Berliner Kurier (Germany), Mar. 3, '99

"The popular press...followed her pregnancy from the beginning. Not always sympathetically:...pictures showed her with a glass of wine or a cigarette in her hand", Yahoo (Germany) Headlines, Jul. 21, '99

"enjoys a cigarette", RTL (German TV), Feb. 24, '00

"She seemed, simultaneously, to be talking into a mobile telephone and smoking a cigarette", Daily Telegraph (UK), Nov. 14, '00

"blithely ignoring the no-smoking rule", New York Times, Nov. 19, '02

"[at age 16] made a conscious effort to do exactly as she shouldn't. She was the 'Playgirl Princess', who enjoyed dancing and discos. She was photographed smoking, kissing boyfriends and drinking...[One of her boyfriends:] 'Princess Grace shouted out: 'And you'd bloody well better not smoke, Caroline.' Caroline turned to me and said: 'How embarrassing!' Then she pulled out a cigar and asked me for a light'", extracted from Once Upon a Time: The Story of Princess Grace, Prince Rainier and Their Family, Daily Mail (UK), Apr. 1, '03

"The Daily News gossip column Thursday said Princess Caroline of Monaco lit up at the trendy Le Cirque eatery recently. 'Nobody had the nerve to tell her to put out her cigarette,' one observer told the tabloid.", cnn online, May 1, '03

Pictures of her smoking

candid, dragging on a cigarette, website (Royal Monaco), '86

article on dangers of women smoking, Cleo Magazine, Jul. '91

dragging, People Magazine, Jan. 13, '97, p. 8

dragging, on yacht, Oggi Magazine (Italy), Jul. 23, '97

large, holding, Paris Match, Aug. 21, '97

candid, dangling (long-distance paparazzo photo), Oggi Magazine (Italy), Mar. 4, '98

clutching pack of Winstons at Monaco's Red Cross Ball, Neue Post (Germany), Aug. 13, '98

candid, lighting up on her honeymoon, 1999, Berliner-Zeitung online (Germany), Feb. 26, '99

candid, dangling, Bild Zeitung (Germany), Feb. 15, '00

unflattering dangling while allegedly pregnant with her fifth child, Freizeit Revue (Germany), Feb. 23, '00

Pictures from the net
holding, ?k

dangling, ?k

Julia 06-04-2003 06:16 PM

Apparently she did. It's a little strange to think of Caroline as either being so ingnorant or negligent.

Alexandria 06-04-2003 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Julia@Jun 4th, 2003 - 4:33 pm

up to 50 Winstons/day, Bunte Magazine (Germany), early 80's

Oh my gosh! :shock: That's a lot of cigarettes! I didn't know there was enough time in a day to smoke that many!

The part about Caroline and Ernst lighting up in synch was sort of amusing. The couple that smokes together stays together???

As for Caroline smoking while pregnant, I cannot believe an intelligent woman as she would jeopardize the health of her baby in such a deliberate way. It's not like it was unknown. My mom had the occasional drink while pregnant with me but that was in the seventies when it wasn't known that alcohol was bad for the fetus. I sure hope Caroline and Ernst don't smoke while in Alexandra's presence. Second-hand smoke is terrible, espescially for young lungs like Alexandra's.

sandee 09-03-2003 04:40 AM

A picture of Caroline smoking...a very bad habit :(

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs/caro86a.jpg

paulette 09-04-2003 10:14 AM

I really feel sad to see royals smoking like Princess Caroline. Even when they are pregnant or not it is still a hazard to their health. I really pity the child inside their womb for their mothers only stopped smoking for they are pregnant and after they will bear their child, back again to the same old habit.

Well, I respect their decisions to smoke for they like it but mostly those parents who smoke, their children becomes smokers too. Too sad..

authoriseduser 09-13-2003 06:13 PM

The worst part is, her breath must stink. Her breath must smell like an ashtray.

Lyonnaise 09-13-2003 07:43 PM

no, the worst part is that her two eldest children have taken up her nasty habit.

moosey60 09-13-2003 09:19 PM

Ewwwwwww! 50 cigars a day? My stars, that's horrible that Andrea and Charlotte have started smoking. It's a pity because Charlotte and ANdrea are two good-looking kids, the cigarettes will make them age a lot quicker. Hmmm..what do they mean by "Dangling, while supposedly pregnant with fifth child", dangling? Fifth child? I thought she only had three before Alexandra. Did her smoking/drinking interfere with Alexandra's development? I've always thought maybe Alexandra looked a little off..cute, but off....

hrhcp 09-25-2003 12:59 AM

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50 cigarettes/cigars a day ....
Ladies,
you have to realize that smoking is still quite fashionable in Europe .... and I suspect even more so in the snobby circles. I have lived and worked in Germany, and it was bad. No tolerance for non-smokers.

And I wonder with Caroline's habits, if it isn't similar to the former Princess Margaret of England who also smoked like a fish, and Queen Margarethe also does her thing. Is this 'coping with boredom' in the extreme?

:innocent: :ninja:

Julia 09-25-2003 01:03 AM

Hey Haakon2 :)

Yes, smoking is very fashionable in Germany. It's bad in Poland and Russia, too. Really bad in Poland. :sick:

Maybe it is out of boredom. :huh: It'll certainly get you on your way to the next world fast enough if you're really bored... :shock:

hrhcp 11-05-2003 01:44 AM

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sandee  Posted: Sep 3rd, 2003 - 3:40 am

A picture of Caroline smoking...a very bad habit

Emma Peel look-a-like.

Off the topic : Did the actress playing Emma P. smoke ?

kittencrews 11-05-2003 01:47 AM

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up to 50 Winstons/day, Bunte Magazine (Germany), early 80's

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and she hasn't slowed down!!! alexandra doesn't seem to mind!!!!

at least when she was newborn she let charlotte take her away from the smoke!!

hrhcp 11-05-2003 12:15 PM

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kittencrews&nbsp; Posted: Nov 5th, 2003 - 12:47 am

and she hasn&#39;t slowed down&#33;&#33;&#33; alexandra doesn&#39;t seem to mind&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

That is an unfortunate situation. It is sad to see that Princess Caroline has become so ... blasee, inured? , rebeliuos ... over the years, that she&#39;s indirectly conditioning her daughter to smoking.

montecarlo 11-05-2003 06:42 PM

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FACTS: Two thirds of smoke from a cigarette is not inhaled by the smoker, but enters the air around the smoker. Second-hand smoke has at least twice the nicotine and tar as the smoke inhaled by the smoker. Regular exposure to second-hand smoke increases the chances of contracting lung disease by 25% and heart disease by 10%. Second-hand smoke aggravates symptoms in people with allergies and asthma, and can cause eye, nose and throat irritations, headaches, dizziness, nausea, coughing and wheezing in otherwise healthy people. Children have a higher metabolism and can absorb higher amounts of smoke than adults. Infants and children exposed to second-hand smoke are more likely to suffer chronic respiratory illness, impaired lung function, middle ear infections, food allergies and can even succumb to sudden infant death syndrome (gosmokefree.ca).

zhontella 11-05-2003 07:06 PM

Caroline shouldn&#39;t be judged so harshly for her nicotine addiction. Some people can break the habit and others go stark raving mad without it -- it can be much more stubborn than a heroin addiction.

There&#39;s a disorder of the brain that involves something called defective sensory gating. It is common in schizophrenics and 1st order relatives of schizophrenics, but by itself is not an indicator of schizophrenia, just the "heebee jeebees". It is known that nicotine normalizes this defective sensory gating, so some people depend on it in ways that most of us could never fathom.

montecarlo 11-05-2003 07:19 PM

I&#39;m not a smoker but my friend is. She&#39;s trying to quit so, she replaces cigarettes with sugarless gum.

kittencrews 11-05-2003 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by zhontella@Nov 5th, 2003 - 6:06 pm
Caroline shouldn&#39;t be judged so harshly for her nicotine addiction.*&nbsp; Some people can break the habit and others go stark raving mad without it -- it can be much more stubborn than a heroin addiction.*

we&#39;ve also got to remember Caroline IS european.. they are known for their fag&#39;s&#33;&#33;

Paulina 05-28-2004 06:13 PM

Okay, I noticed in several pictures Caroline and Stephanie smoking. Yuk&#33; :yuk:
No wonder they both, beautiful as they are, look a little more aged than they should. I don&#39;t think royals should smoke (or anyone for that matter, but chacun a son gout, as they say). Does anyone know if any of their kids smoke? Here in California people don&#39;t smoke, and in some places it is banned outdoors. It is also banned in all restaurants. Who are the smoking and non-smoking royals in Europe? Enquiring minds want to know . . . :P

Gabriella 05-28-2004 08:15 PM

There is already a thread about all of this. Yes, many royals do smoke. I think that it is a more accepted practice in Europe than in America. In Florida, it is illegal to smoke in many places as well. Including restaurants, some outdoor areas such as parks, and in most parts of theme parks. I agree, it is a disgusting habit, and it does age people.

Anyway, here is the link to the other thread. Which Royals Smoke?


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