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SpeedDial 08-02-2009 10:06 AM

How Come Ari Behn doesn't have a title?
 
I was wondering how come Princess Märtha Louise's husband Ari Behn doesn't have a title and isn't a prince. It's sort of strange since Prince Haakon's wife has a title.:confused:

Lumutqueen 08-02-2009 10:32 AM

Possible because Her Highness Princess Martha Louise has tried to distance herself from the Royal Family. Hence the Her Highness not Her Royal Highness.
Maud Angelica, Leah Isadora or Emma Tallulah have no royal titles. :flowers:

Her_Majesty 08-02-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedDial
I was wondering how come Princess Märtha Louise's husband Ari Behn doesn't have a title and isn't a prince. It's sort of strange since Prince Haakon's wife has a title.

Ari Behn isn't the only one who didn't get a Royal title.

When King Harald's sisters, Princess Astrid and Princess Ragnhild, got married to commoners, neither of their husbands got a title either; neither did their children. They only got their fathers' surnames (Ferner and Lorentzen).
The same goes for Ari Behn's and Princess Märtha's daughters.


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Originally Posted by lumutuqueen
Possible because Her Highness Princess Martha Louise has tried to distance herself from the Royal Family

Märtha gave up her title when she married Ari Behn. She didn't do that to distance herself from the Royal Family, but to be able to start her own business...
(what she did... with her angel school and everything :D ).
Neither Märtha nor Ari are members of the "Royal House". They are only members of the "Royal Family".

SpeedDial 08-03-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Her_Majesty (Post 974442)
Ari Behn isn't the only one who didn't get a Royal title.

When King Harald's sisters, Princess Astrid and Princess Ragnhild, got married to commoners, neither of their husbands got a title either; neither did their children. They only got their fathers' surnames (Ferner and Lorentzen).
The same goes for Ari Behn's and Princess Märtha's daughters.

Märtha gave up her title when she married Ari Behn. She didn't do that to distance herself from the Royal Family, but to be able to start her own business...
(what she did... with her angel school and everything :D ).
Neither Märtha nor Ari are members of the "Royal House". They are only members of the "Royal Family".

But Haakon's wife is a commoner, and she got a title...is it just because Haakon's next in line to the throne?

Wow, all the different scenarios and rules are confusing.:lol:

EmpressRouge 08-03-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedDial (Post 974712)
But Haakon's wife is a commoner, and she got a title...is it just because Haakon's next in line to the throne?

Wow, all the different scenarios and rules are confusing.:lol:

It's the tradition that a wife takes on her husband's titles and not the other way around. Since Haakon is the crown prince, his wife Mette-Marit becomes crown princess. Even if they weren't royal, a woman takes her husband's name. If Joe Smith married Jane Doe, they would be Mr and Mrs. Smith, not Mr. and Mrs. Doe. Sometimes commoner men who marry princesses are given titles, like Anthony Armstrong-Jones (Earl of Snowdon), Jaime de Marichalar (Duke of Lugo) and Inaki Urdangarin (Duke of Palma de Mallorca). However, some like the Princess Royal's ex-husband, Mark Phillips refused a title.

Her_Majesty 08-03-2009 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedDial (Post 974712)
But Haakon's wife is a commoner, and she got a title...is it just because Haakon's next in line to the throne?

Yes, I think the wife of the CP gets a title as she has to become Queen.
That also happened to Sonja Haraldsen when she married Harald.
That's also why the CP needs the permission of Stortinget to get married.
(I don't know if the other members of teh RF need the permission of Stortinget too, actually.... does anyone know?)

RoyalistRiley 08-03-2009 04:28 AM

I'm not sure whether they need the Storting's permission to marry (I couldn't find it on the monarchy's website), but theoretically they might need to go to Queen Elizabeth II under the Royal Marriages Act of 1772, as Haakon VII is descended from the British Line via Queen Maud.

principessa 08-03-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lumutqueen (Post 974397)
Maud Angelica, Leah Isadora or Emma Tallulah have royal titles. :flowers:

What titles do they have?

Her_Majesty 08-03-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by principessa (Post 974878)
What titles do they have?

They have no titles.
They only have their father's surname.

Lumutqueen 08-03-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by principessa (Post 974878)
What titles do they have?

I beg your pardon, I seem to have missed the no from that sentence. :flowers:

Mandy 08-03-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Her_Majesty (Post 974735)
Yes, I think the wife of the CP gets a title as she has to become Queen.
That also happened to Sonja Haraldsen when she married Harald.
That's also why the CP needs the permission of Stortinget to get married.
(I don't know if the other members of teh RF need the permission of Stortinget too, actually.... does anyone know?)

It's only a formality. Once the king gives his consent, the Stortinget automatically agrees.


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