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Jacqueline 05-23-2003 03:02 PM

Royal Family of Morocco: Articles, Interviews & Speeches
 
Moroccan Journalist Jailed For ‘Insulting’ King

RABAT, May 21 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) - A Moroccan journalist was jailed for four years Wednesday, May 21, for insulting King Mohammed VI and undermining the country's national integrity, sparking protests that the sentence was too harsh and politically biased.

But journalist Ali Lamrabet, editor-in-chief of the satirical magazines Demain and Doumane, said he was not surprised by his weighty sentence as police prepared to escort him from the court in Rabat to prison in the nearby town of Sale, agence France-Presse (AFP) said.

The convictions drew condemnation from rights watchdogs Amnesty International and Reporters sans Frontieres (Reporters Without Frontiers RSF). An Amnesty spokeswoman said it "regarded Ali Lamrabet as a prisoner of conscience, condemned the verdict and called for his immediate and unconditional release."

She said Amnesty was worried about the physical condition of Lamrabet who has been on hunger strike since May 6.

"This verdict doesn't surprise me," said Lamrabet, who was also fined 20,000 dirhams (1,900 euros/2,100 dollars) and saw his two magazines banned.

"The interior ministry and the DST (Moroccan intelligence) focused on my caricatures and drawings instead of looking after the security of the country," said Lamrabet, alluding to the series of blasts that rocked the Moroccan city of Casablanca on Friday, May 16, claiming 41 lives.

Lamrabet's controversial sentence came as Morocco tries to position itself as a burgeoning democracy, where freedom of expression is encouraged. The attacks in Casablanca last week have sparked fears that democratic rights and freedoms will from now on be limited in Morocco.

Charges were brought against Lamrabet after his magazines published articles on topics including a parliamentary vote on the king's civil list, the budget of the royal palace, and a cartoon on the history of slavery in Morocco. Another article quoted a Moroccan republican activist.

"Prison doesn't scare me," Lamrabet said, clutching a small bag containing some personal effects which he had brought to court, convinced he would be jailed.

The prosecution last week recommended Lamrabet be given the maximum sentence for defaming the king, or five years in prison.

A section of Morocco's penal code allows immediate imprisonment on conviction by a court.

"I knew from the start of the trial that they wanted to jail me and that the sentence would be heavy," he told dozens of reporters and lawyers at the court, all angered by the severity of the sentence.

Unfair, Scandalous

Lamrabet's lawyers said they would appeal the sentence, which they called "a serious regression for freedom of the press in Morocco."

They said it was the first time since 1971 that a journalist had been jailed on similar charges in the North African kingdom.

Ahmed Benjelloun, one of Lamrabet's lawyers, called the trial "unfair, scandalous" and "a parody of justice."

"We will appeal, but we have no illusions, the judiciary in our country being what it is," he said.

"With this sentence, the margins of freedom of the press have been pulled back further," he lamented.

Robert Menard, secretary general of media rights watchdog RSF -- which Lamrabet represents in Morocco -- said in a statement he was "appalled and horrified by this verdict."

"The trial we just witnessed was no more or less than a political trial," Menard said.

"Is Ali Lamrabet a criminal that one throws immediately into prison?" Menard asked, calling on the king, often hailed as a modernizer, to prove "with strong gestures his belief in true freedom of the press, without taboos or forbidden territory."

The Moroccan parliament in May last year approved a new press code, which reduced the maximum prison term for defaming the royal family from 20 years to five.

But the code, which replaced existing regulations governing the media, did not do away with prison terms for defamation as demanded by the National Union of the Moroccan Press (SNPM).

"The worst thing is that they have jailed Ali Lamrabet instead of waiting for him to lodge an appeal. This sentence smacks of vengeance," Younes Moujahid, Secretary-General of the SNPM told AFP Wednesday.

Lamrabet said he intended to continue a hunger strike he began two weeks ago "to denounce this unfair trial and obtain permission to publish the two weeklies."

Communication Minister Nabil Benabdallah refused to comment on the sentence, saying it was a judicial decision, and doing so would undermine the sovereignty of the judiciary.

A difference had to be drawn, said Benabdallah, between a decision taken by the courts and repressive measures taken by the authorities.

Article From: Islam Online

mybags 10-28-2003 04:00 PM

Royal Family of Morocco: Articles, Interviews & Speeches
 
More links:

Mohammed VI: http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0...6,47765,00.html

Muhammad 6: http://lexicorient.com/e.o/muhammed6.htm

Moroccan King: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/2285161.stm

King Muhammad VI: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/internation...,587350,00.html

King Hassan II: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/402491.stm

Hassan II: http://www.library.cornell.edu/colld...east/hasn2.htm

Bubbette 12-15-2003 11:31 AM

Royal Family of Morocco: Articles, Interviews & Speeches
 
Interesting article on how Mohummed is trying to modernize Morocco by introducing equality for women, for starters.

Morocco’s Feminism -- From Above
By Michael Radu
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 15, 2003


“I cannot authorize what God forbids and forbid what God has authorized.” So King Mohammed VI of Morocco recently stated when instructing his (elected) parliament to pass a new family and revolutionary family code (moudawanna), thus reforming the status of women. This demonstrates how progress in the Arab world could realistically be made - from above. This legislation has shown the way for a transformation of the Arab world and demonstrated that Islam and human rights are not necessarily on a collision course. It also provides a valuable lesson for Iraq, one that will hopefully be learned by all concerned.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=11300

Blueice 01-04-2004 05:22 PM

Thursday, 28 March, 2002, 18:25 GMT

The King and the Sheikh's daughter

The young King of Morocco wants his country to embrace progress, to become a fairer, more modern society. But his opponents are applying the brakes. When he tried to introduce new laws to improve the rights of women, hundreds of thousands of ordinary Moroccans took to the streets in protest. Surprisingly, many of them were women. Anita McNaught reports.

Moroccan royal wedding

On 21 March 2002, King Mohammed VI of Morocco married a 24-year old computer engineering graduate in a private ceremony. The public celebration follows on 12 April , with all the pomp and ceremony, the dignitaries and foreign guests, that the West has come to expect from royal weddings.
Except that, for Morocco, this is a highly unusual event - a complete break with tradition. Up till now, royal wives in this ancient Muslim kingdom have been hidden from view.
But this break with custom is very much in keeping with the 38-year-old King Moroccans call "Speedy Mohammed" - in part for his fabled love of jet-skiing, and in part for his enthusiasm for moving Morocco into a new era.
When he succeeded his father King Hassan II in 1999, the young King promised his people badly needed reforms and a liberal agenda. He wanted to modernise the Moroccan economy, and foster closer ties with Europe. He promised tolerance, and respect for human rights. Political prisoners were released, dissidents returned from exile.

Sheikh Yassine

He even freed one of the royal household's fiercest critics, Sheikh Abdesalam Yassine. Sheikh Yassine is leader of an Islamic group called Al Adl Wal Ihsan - "Justice and Charity". He had written an open letter to King Mohammed on his coronation, challenging him to hand his royal fortune back to Morocco's people.
Sheikh Yassine had a hard time of it under King Mohammed's father. Some twenty years previously, he had written the old King, Hassan II, another open letter accusing him of tolerating corruption and encouraging Western-style moral decay. King Hassan jailed him for his efforts.
In that time, the Sheikh built up a sizeable following among ordinary Moroccans. His message of compassionate Islam, of social analysis and good works, found a receptive audience among people disillusioned by the country's grinding poverty and huge unemployment.

The Facts

Morocco's problems

Morocco has enormous problems, both social and economical. One third of the country's population of 30 million are extremely poor. Illiteracy rates are well over 50 per cent. Infant mortality and death in childbirth rates are also very high. Domestic violence is a big problem.
Agriculture has been plagued by a succession of droughts and floods, and the country's new industries have yet to pull the country's economy around.
The new King, who went to University in Europe, and whose PhD is on EU reforms and the Maghreb, came to the throne with a long list of measures and reforms to tackle the problems. High on his list was the situation of Morocco's women. The civil law or Personal Status Code, the Moudawana.

The Moudawana

The Moudawana is based on a mixture of custom and Islamic law. Among other functions, it governs the relationship between a husband and wife, even before a wedding takes place. Many Moroccans accept it hugely disadvantages women, denying them many rights and making them almost entirely subject to their husband's control.
The Moudawana is really, in fact, about being your husband's slave.

Damia Benkhouya

While to Western eyes, many Moroccan women appear to move more freely than their sisters in other Arab Muslim countries, their situation under Moroccan law is not helpful.
Damia Benkhouya, a leading Moroccan women's rights campaigner, says: "The Moudawana is really a type of violence, judicial violence against Moroccan women. It entirely goes against the reality of Moroccan women by not including them as part of society, by not allowing them to participate in development in all areas - political, economic, social and cultural. When you look at the Moudawana, women are always inferior... The Moudawana is really, in fact, about being your husband's slave."

Opposition to change

But radical change in any country is not easy, as the new King was to discover. When he announced the changes to the Moudawana, the country took to the streets. In March 2000, tens of thousands of supporters of the reforms marched in the capital Rabat while opponents mustered a demonstration ten times the size in Casablanca.
What had gone wrong? Conservatives in Moroccan society had linked up with the many men who had begun to have misgivings about any relinquishing of their personal power, and the Islamists had also mobilised on the same ticket, saying the proposed reforms were against the Koran. At the head of the Islamists marching in Casablanca that day, Nadia Yassine, Sheikh Yassine's daughter.

Nadia Yassine

Nadia Yassine is one of the Sheikh's big assets. She is university-educated, highly articulate and married with four children. Over the years that her father was in jail, she had become a prominent member of his organisation. Speaking perfect French, she is well-equipped to explain her father's message to a wider world.
Yes, she said, the law did need reforms. But not Western-inspired ones which would impose a foreign agenda on the Moroccan people. Nadia Yassine maintains the Prophet Mohammed was himself effectively a feminist, and that any changes to the social law should be made within a Muslim context.

Campaigning

The campaign against the reforms has, in the short term at least, succeeded in delaying the implementation of new law. King Mohammed was obliged to set up a commission to re-evaluate the proposals. It is supposed to be coming back with a new schema in September.
In the interim, the Islamists, emboldened by their burgeoning influence on government, have made increasingly vocal bids for more political and civil freedoms. On World Human Rights Day, 10 December 2000, they protested in eight cities simultaneously. The government cracked down, hard. Which has in turn made many Moroccans question how deep their supposed new freedoms really go. King Hassan II was notoriously repressive. Was his son going down the same road?
Yet the lessons of Morocco's troubled neighbour Algeria are never far from Moroccan minds. There, Islamic fundamentalism has turned into terrorism, and the government crackdown has tipped the country into a form of civil war. No-one in Morocco, either on the Muslim or government side, wants to make the same mistakes.

The future

The young King undoubtedly has some difficult judgement calls to make. And in this, he may be aided by the fact that his country is also 'young' - two thirds of the population is under the age of 25.
For many of them, Europe, and the culture of the West, remains very important.
Islamists may argue that Morocco is in danger of losing its cultural identity and sovereignty under a flood of Western influences, but the King knows that if the country is to raise its living standards and educate its people, its future relationship with a continent which lies barely nine miles away across the Straits of Gibralatar is the key.

The King and the Sheikh's daughter: Sunday 31st March 2002 on BBC Two at 1915 GMT.

Reporter: Anita McNaught
Producer: Diane Milward
Deputy Editor: Farah Durrani
Editor: Fiona Murch

rosa 04-27-2004 07:16 AM

J.P Tuquoi interview - Part 1
 
this is an interview who made a spanish journalist whith J.P TUQUOI,
J.P TUQUOI is jounalist in the french news paper "le monde" and Made a book about mohamed VI



What does the most deranged in your book?
What has the most annoyed to the maroc, these are all details that I give on the daily life in palace

What type of details?
The functionning of the harem of Hassan II, of their concubines, of their maids, of certain palace scandals...

Does Mohamed IV have harem ?
No, he doesn’t have. What I explain is the life in palace during their childhood, and I speak of their education, of their relationship with their father...

And with their mother?
she has had a minimum relationship. Since they were born, the children belonged to palace, not to the mother. They were given to caretakers, governors, professors. To her it has not been he possible to be as mother.

Who is she?
Latefa is called. It was the elected concubine for Hassan II to be mother of the princes (two boys: Mohamed and Mulay Rachid, and three girls: Lalla Meriem, Lalla Asma and Lalla Hasna).

How many women did they compose the harem of Hassan II?
Hassan II lived permanently surrounded by some 60 women: some 20 they were concubines and the other ones 40, maids. But the frontier was diffuse: if you a seductive maid, concubine became.

And what did he/she suppose to be concubine?
To cut all communication with family and acquaintance of outside of palace and to pass to live in a next room to that of the king, in competition with the other concubines to get a place only in those the sovereign's favors.

What has it belonged to those women after the death of Hassan II?
Mohamed VI opened the doors so that they left, in 1999. And they left, but they have finished returning, little by little. Think that all arrived with 11 or 12 years to palace that they have always lived there and some are sexagenarian. Others are 30 years old, but without any linking already with the exterior. Palace people maintains them with their donations.

How did Hassan II treat them?
As their master and lord: the concubines were objects of their property. Hassan II were entitled about the life and the death of each one of them. Sometimes he covered them of expensive gifts bought in Europe, and other them ago to whip -until bleeding - for a slave of the fire.

Slave of the fire?
Yes, it is a long stock of black servants that they work for generations in the king's of Morocco court. And one of their made was to whip the concubines.
With whips wet in water and salt. But he sometimes punished them the own one king. Certain day, the king reproached to one of the concubines that she didn’t make up herself . Soon after, she was presented make up exaggeratedly and she spit the king: " Do you like this , ' sidi'"? Hassan II crawled her of the hair, he put him the head in a spring and then he sent it during several months to rot to the prison of Fez. And some became crazy after the king's humiliations.

How was the current king educated?
Once, Hassan II declared: "Until the 10 or 12 years I received blow with a cane. I have given samples of the same severity with my own ones children". After a beating, one of his daughters was about to send to International amnesty a picture of their body marked by the blows of cane. At the end she didn't make it.

How are you able to know these things?
My sources are people that lived in palace. People that today is already outside of Morocco. They ask me him not to publish their names to avoid possible problems to their relatives in Morocco.

Let us return to the education of Mohamed VI
Inside palace he had everything: school, games, cinema, hospital... Of boy was educated there, in a classroom next to other children given by families of the court or the king's friends.

what kind of student was he?
Normal, he was very good in drawing. he had a good art professor that told me years after Mohamed VI had talent and sensibility and that, of not to be a king, he could have been a remarkable plastic artist. To the 15 years he drew beautiful birds whose plumages painted of many mainly colors.

what relations did he have with his father?
Hassan II were the authority. Mohamed had the obligation of going to greet him every noon. And Hassan II were only interested in their notes and for their studies, but not for the son.

Is there bitterness in him?
Who have treated him during these two years have seen him very happy for not to already feel squashed by their father. And he doesn't like he at all that what they speak to him

rosa 04-27-2004 07:18 AM

J.P Tuquoi interview - Part 2
 
what does one know of his tastes?
When he was 20 years old, Mohamed liked quick cars and the speed. With a friend he had a serious accident: he was about to be killed. When Hassan II saw him, he was furious he tells him you have been about to annihilate 20 years of investment in you". Hassan II he spoke to him as boss of State, not like a father who has failed to lose a son

Did many confrontation father and son have?
Hassan II seemed him that Mohamed was too effeminate and that him it angered. And Hassan II also rebuked Mohamed when seeing that not he interested too much to read the foreign press and that he was not interested for the international politics. It is that Mohamed preferred to read the magazines of the Spanish heart, the Hello! and also " Interview ".

Seriously?
Yes! Mohamed also liked a lot the " night-clubs ", when he was younger, and today he likes the horses, to swim and the jet sky."

And the girls?
Ah, no: the women are not in fact it that more it interests Mohamed
This is something who is known and commented by the bourgeoisie and the intellectuality of Rabat.

But he has just announced their wedding with Salma Benani, a Moroccan girl of 24 years.
It is a wedding of State, to silence rumors. Of the girl we know that it is learned, modern, and I assure him that their election will have been carefully studied.

It is not a wedding for love ?
It is political. Mohamed will orchestrate an immense party: he will present his to the Moroccan town to send to the world the message that he is a modern king, his father always let latefa in the silence of the harem

Does mohamed has good relations with prince felipe ?
No. The king Juan Carlos yes, had good relationship with Hassan II for question generation, but it is not already the same thing with Mohamed VI.

What should this king make?
To take advantage of the great popularity that he still enjoys among the population for to attack necessary changes.

What changes?
There is one indispensable: to dismantle the Makzen.

What is the Makzen?
The parallel State that it controls until the last corner of Morocco, with head in the real palace. It is a feudal system of alliances with the king. If you are in that system, you have total impunity: to jump you laws, to steal, to charge commissions...

And Mohamed VI will it be able to finish with all that?
It is very difficult to make it, and for that reason he should take advantage of their current popularity: now still it is under conditions of being able to make it!

And what will it happen if anything doesn't make?
If he doesn't put an end to that feudal system and democratizes it, he could be the one last king of Morocco. It is something that one already whispers in the streets of Rabat.

Why?
Because one of each two Moroccans lives in state of poverty, according to those parameters of the Unesco. And the Islamism, little by little, goes growing.

Does it predict a social explosion?
If Mohamed continues reigning as its father and, for how long will he maintain his popularity? Let us don't lose of view the Iran of the fall of shah or the civil war in Algeria.

And what can he be made so that he goes up the level of Moroccan life?
To settle down in a transparent way the rules of the game. That would give security and tranquility to foreign investors, to managers. In theory, there is market economy, but in the practice it is a plot of favors!

But, is Morocco a democracy, or not?
Montesquieu still has to arrive at Morocco, because now the king names directly the government's four minister: Justice, Interior, External matters and Religious Matters...

But Mohamed made some change yes or no?
Yes, he has tossed to their father's faithful servants, as Driss Basri, the almighty boss of the police and minister of the Interior. But he expelled him by personal questions: it seems that Driss Basri was not kind with Mohamed when he was young boy... and Mohamed has retaliated.

rosa 05-16-2004 04:52 AM

one could wonder why “Paris Match” is as conciliatory with Mohamed VI, the reason in is all simple “Paris Match” is edited by the groups Hachette and Hachette possess big interest in morocco of which notably the school book edition, then to thank his majesty for the contrat that he gives it, one finalizes to the point an interview, or no unpleasant topic for the king is debated, one takes pretty photos of his family and one tried to make the reader swallow the history of a honest king that thinks and lives only for his people and his small family
All is made to move the reader, the photos of the kind family, the questions chosen with big care, those that don't know the interest of Paris Match could be duper, when to me I am especially disgusted

abir 11-26-2004 01:53 PM

http://www.telquel-online.com/138/sujet1.shtml

I copy this part from the above article (published July/August 2004):

La dynastie alaouite respire. En la personne du jeune Moulay El Hassan (1 an), elle a assuré sa continuité. Et en la personne de Lalla Salma, anciennement simple Salma Bennani, elle a assuré sa modernité. Un grand pas est franchi depuis Hassan II, on sait, désormais, à quoi ressemble la femme du roi. Mais on n'en sait pas beaucoup plus. Ceux qui fantasmaient sur une first lady à l'américaine en ont été pour leurs frais. Le sérail ne baisse pas les armes si facilement. Au grand regret des Marocains, qui éprouvent une sincère affection envers la jeune princesse de 26 ans, Lalla Salma n'apparaît que très rarement, et pour inaugurer des évènements que pourraient inaugurer les ministres concernés. Pourtant, on parlait de sa fibre sociale… Dommage qu'elle n'ait pas été mise à profit. Aujourd'hui, on ne parle plus que des rumeurs sur la vie de Cour, notamment celle selon laquelle elle attendrait un second enfant.

translation to english

Dynasty alaouite breathes. In the person of the young Moulay El Hassan (1 year), she assured his continuity. And in the person of Lalla Salma, formerly simple Salma Bennani, she assured his modernity. A big is step crossed since Hassan II, one knows, henceforth, to what resembles the woman of the king. But one not in knows a lot more. Those that fantasized on a first lady to the American one some were for their expenses. The sérail does not lower the weapons so easily. To the big regret of the Moroccans, that test a sincere affection towards the young princess of 26 years, Lalla Salma appears only very rarely, and to inaugurate events that could inaugurate the concerned ministers. Nevertheless, one talked about his social fiber… Damage that she was not put to profit. Today, one does not speak anymore than rumors on Course life, notably the one according to which she would await a second child.

abir 12-26-2004 06:54 AM

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The king salary will be published at Telquel, Moroccan Magazine, 7th January 2005. http://www.telquel-online.com/156/co...re_156_1.shtml

Enquête. Le salaire du roi
(AFP)

Les chiffres ne sont pas sacrés

"Waaw !", "Eh ben !", "Nooon, c’est pas vrai ?!?"… Voilà un petit échantillon des réactions enregistrées à chaque fois que nous annoncions à quelqu’un que nous préparions un dossier sur le salaire du roi et les finances du Palais royal. Comme si nous nous préparions à révéler un secret d’état ou à commettre un crime de lèse-majesté.
Rien n’est plus faux. Tous les chiffres présentés dans ce dossier sont tirés de documents aussi banals que le bulletin officiel ou ...

Translated:

Investigate. The salary of the king
(AFP) The amount are not sacred
"Waaw!", "Eh ben!", "Nooon, it's not true ?!?"… Here a small sample of the recorded reactions to whenever we announced to someone that we prepared a file on the salary of the king and the finances of the royal Palace. As if we got ready to reveal a state secret or to commit a crime of majesties. Nothing MORE FALSE. All the amount presented in this file are pulled documents as banal as the official bulletin or ...

abir 12-28-2004 08:29 AM

French Press
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abir
The king salary will be published at Telquel, Moroccan Magazine, 7th January 2005. http://www.telquel-online.com/156/co...re_156_1.shtml

Le Monde speaks about the article.

Un hebdomadaire marocain enfreint un tabou en évaluant le coût de la monarchie chérifienne

LE MONDE | 27.12.04 | 14h03
Selon "Tel Quel", le fonctionnement de la cour représente un budget annuel de 210 millions d'euros.
Pour la première fois au royaume chérifien, où le Parlement vote le budget de la cour "par consentement tacite", un journal a publié "Le salaire du roi". C'est sous ce titre que l'hebdomadaire Tel Quel évalue, dimanche 26 décembre, à 36 000 euros les émoluments du souverain en tant que chef de l'Etat. Ce "salaire" ne constitue qu'une faible part de la "liste civile" de la cour royale, que le journal chiffre, sur la base des comptes du palais extraits de divers documents officiels, à l'équivalent de 210 millions d'euros par an.

L'hebdomadaire, qui affirme que "ni les médias, ni les députés n'osent encore s'intéresser de trop près"au coût courant de la monarchie, celui-ci étant couvert "depuis l'indépendance par un tabou soigneusement cultivé", estime à 2,4 millions d'euros la masse salariale des princes et princesses de la famille royale. A cette somme s'ajoutent les "dotations de souveraineté", pour un montant annuel de 39 millions d'euros, dont un tiers est alloué à diverses fondations et le reste couvre des "dépenses non ventilées", soit, selon Tel Quel, une sorte de "caisse noire officielle" à usage discrétionnaire.

1 100 PERSONNES EMPLOYÉES

Le fonctionnement de la cour, avec les salaires de plus de 1 100 personnes qui lui sont attachées, l'entretien des palais, les voyages et les cérémonies, représenterait un budget annuel de 163 millions d'euros. Tel Quel indique que le cabinet royal emploie a lui seul quelque 300 permanents, au premier rang desquels les "conseillers du roi", dont les salaires sont "alignés sur ceux des membres du gouvernement". Au titre du budget annuel des "consommations" des palais royaux, l'hebdomadaire relève 6 millions d'euros de carburant, un peu moins en électricité, 4 millions d'euros de factures d'eau, et 2 millions en dépenses vestimentaires. Le journal observe malicieusement qu'avec 315 000 euros de budget "abonnements et documentation" la maison royale n'a pas encore souscrit d'abonnement à... Tel Quel.

L'hebdomadaire publie par ailleurs une interview avec le cousin germain du roi Mohammed VI, le "prince rouge" Moulay Hicham, avocat d'une "refondation démocratique" de la monarchie chérifienne. Celui-ci, en disgrâce à la cour, estime que "la démocratie et la sacralité ne sont pas conciliables", concluant : "Voilà toute la problématique du système politique marocain."

Evoquant les récentes auditions publiques de victimes des "années de plomb" au Maroc, organisées par l'Instance équité et réconciliation mise en place par le roi Mohammed VI, Moulay Hicham se demande "comment on peut parler de tout cela alors qu'Amnesty -International- et Human Rights Watch viennent de relever des atteintes sérieuses aux droits humains et que des livres sont encore interdits au Maroc".

Selon le cousin du roi, qui se déclare "dissident" à son corps défendant, il existerait aujourd'hui au Maroc "une envie de scinder Hassan II -le père et prédécesseur au pouvoir de l'actuel souverain- en "bon" et "mauvais". Alors que le "bon" sert de socle confortable et imperturbable sur lequel repose la monarchie, le "mauvais" est celui qu'on attaque, sans jamais le nommer, pour construire la légitimité du nouveau règne". - (AFP.)


Translated:


A weekly Moroccan infringes a taboo while evaluating the cost of the monarchy chérifienne

According to "Such Which", the functioning of the course represents an annual budget of 210 million Euros. For the first time to the kingdom chérifien, where the Parliament votes the budget of the course "by consent tacite", a newspaper published "The salary of the king". This is under this title that the weekly one Such Which evaluates, Sunday December 26, to 36 000 Euros the émoluments of the sovereign one as a boss state. This "salary" constitutes only a weak one leaves the "civil list" royal course, that the newspaper amounts, on the basis of the accounts of the palace extracts of various official documents, to the are equivalent of 210 million Euros per year.

The weekly one, that asserts that "or the media, or the representatives dare again to be interested too près"au cost running monarchy, this one being covered "since the independence by a carefully cultivated taboo", estimates to 2,4 million Euros the wage mass of the princes and princesses of the royal family. To this sum add the "sovereignty allocations", for an annual amount of 39 million Euros, of which a third is allocated to various foundations and the remainder covers with the "non ventilated expenditures", be, according to Such Which, a sort of "black official cash register" to discretionary usage.

1 100 EMPLOYED PERSONS

The functioning of the course, with the salaries of more one than 1 100 persons that are attached for him, the discussion of the palaces, the trips and the ceremonies, would represent an annual budget of 163 million Euros. Such Which indicates that the royal office emploies has him alone some 300 permanent ones, to the first row of which ones them "counsel king", of which the salaries are "aligned on those of the members of the government". To the title of the annual budget of the "consumptions" royal palaces, the weekly relief 6 fuel million Euros, a little less in electricity, 4 million Euros of water bills, and 2 million some spend vestimentaires. The newspaper observes mischievous that with 315 000 budget Euros "subscriptions and documentation" the royal house did not again subscribe subscription to... Such Which.

The weekly one publishes besides an interview with the first cousin of the king Mohammed VI, the "red prince" Moulay Hicham, lawyer of a "democratic refondation" monarchy chérifienne. This one, in disgrace to the course, considers that "the democracy and the sacralité are not reconcilable", conclusive: "Here all the problematic one of the political system Moroccan."

Evoking the recent public hearing of victims of the "lead years" to Morocco, organized by the instance équité and put reconciliation some places by the king Mohammed VI, Moulay Hicham wonders "how one can talk about all that while amnesty -International- and Human Rights Watch have just raised of the attained serious to the human rights and that of the books again are forbidden to Morocco".

According to the cousin of the king, that declares itself "dissident" to his body defending, it would exist today to Morocco "a craving to split up Hassan II -the father and in power predecessor of the current sovereign one- in "good" and "bad". While the "good" uses comfortable and imperturbable base on which rests the monarchy, the "bad" the one that one attacks, without never to name it, to construct the legitimacy of the new reign". - (AFP.)

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,...-392135,0.html

abir 12-28-2004 09:06 AM

34000 euro a monthly salary for each prince/princess plus their heritage and "sovereignty allocations". Apart from the king who is working for Morocco, what the others are doing to get such huge salary?

rosa 12-28-2004 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by abir
34000 euro a monthly salary for each prince/princess plus their heritage and "sovereignty allocations". Apart from the king who is working for Morocco, what the others are doing to get such huge salary?

Me, what inconveniences me more that all, is the existence of this black case, because that means that what is allocated to the MRF doesn’t actually have a limit, it is very serious because they can draw as much they want, no one can ask them accounts
In democracy the existence of a black case would provoke a scandal; I doubt that in Morocco, the justice which is to the orders of the palace makes anything to clear this affair

abir 12-28-2004 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa
Me, what inconveniences me more that all, is the existence of this black case, because that means that what is allocated to the MRF doesn’t actually have a limit, it is very serious because they can draw as much they want, no one can ask them accounts

If they do so, this means that they consider Morocco -the land and all treasures- are only for them, and not to be shared equaly and by merit between all the moroccans.

rosa 12-29-2004 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by abir
If they do so, this means that they consider Morocco -the land and all treasures- are only for them, and not to be shared equaly and by merit between all the moroccans.

I hope this is not the case

abir 12-29-2004 02:16 PM

British Press
 
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Originally Posted by abir
The king salary will be published at Telquel, Moroccan Magazine, 7th January 2005. http://www.telquel-online.com/156/co...re_156_1.shtml

The british media speaks also about ... The BBC says such publication is unique in arab region.


BBC News, 29 December, 2004

Morocco publishes king's salary
A Moroccan magazine has taken the unprecedented step of publishing details of King Mohammed VI's salary.

The French-language magazine Tel Quel says the monarch earns less than a typical company director in the developed world, under $45,000 a month. The annual expenses of the royal court are said to be around $250m.

Correspondents say the publication of such figures is a unique event in the Arab region, whose unelected leaders are some of the richest in the world.

King Mohammed has been spearheading a drive to modernise his society and introduce a culture of accountability, correspondents say.

He has made the fight against poverty in Morocco one of his priorities, earning him the name "guardian of the poor". Since coming to power in 1999, he has embarked on a series of political and economic changes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4132315.stm

abir 01-10-2005 09:02 AM

About salma, down is web-translation of a spanish article, dated beginning 2004.

Since itself announcement its commitment, its image goes back several decades. Nevertheless, the woman of the king of Morocco continues her unstoppable process of aggiornamiento. According to Week, the one that Lalla Salma is learning to ski in the select and very expensive French station of Courchevel is “a sign of modernity”. I have for me that the modern thing would be that she helped that the women of their country no longer could ski, but to walk free along the street. Or that its husband, the king Hassan, instead of being hit the life father at the cost of the contrubuyente Moroccan, destined the money that is spent in these white holidays to improve the services socialkes of its country. Would be modern, at par that progressive.


http://www.divertinajes.com/criticas/040102.html

Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:11 PM

Important speeches and interviews of HM King Mohammed VI.
 
AGADIR- H.M. King Mohammed VI on January 29, 2003 announced a package of measures to reform justice meant to promote the economic development of Morocco, moralize public life, improve the material and professional situation of judges and justice staff and guarantee the dignity of prisoners.

The Sovereign announced the comprehensive reform plan in a speech opening the judiciary year.

Here follows the full text of the sovereign's speech:





"Praise be to God


Peace and Prayers be on the Prophet, his Kin and kith


Ladies and Gentlemen the magistrates,

It is a pleasure for Us to open the judiciary year and seize the opportunity to usher in new stages in the ongoing process to reform the judiciary system, convinced that an independent, honest and efficient justice comforts the supremacy of the law and guarantees the confidence and safety of persons and property. While it promotes development and encourages investment, it also brings a guarantee to the consolidation of stability and democracy that We put above all other considerations.

But have the efforts made in this context helped reach the objectives? The answer is definitely no. Indeed, while we praise the achievements fulfilled to date, we deem that the justice reforming endeavor is an ambitious, laborious and painstaking program. We are determined to speed up the pace of this program in order to ensure the modernization, moralization and improvement of the judiciary system. Today, we are taking concrete measures to enable justice bring its contribution to the ongoing collective efforts to build a Morocco of democracy and development.


Therefore, and in accordance with Our firm will to carry on endeavors to promote investments and carry out Our instructions outlined in the letter to Our Prime Minister, We invite Our government to carry on efforts geared towards justice modernization, by rationalizing its work, easing procedures and generalizing computerization. It is also equally necessary to diversify settlement procedures of eventual disputes between partners in economic transactions by crafting, in a diligent way, the national and international commercial arbitration law so that our judiciary system be able to cope with the challenges of globalization and of economic competition and contribute to attracting foreign investments.


Within the same modernist approach, We have instructed the Justice Minister to secure the opening of family-justice sections in the major tribunals and endeavor that such structures be, eventually, generalized to all the regions of the Kingdom and speed the training of specialized judges specialized in family cases.


Indeed, the existing jurisdictions that take care of personal statute cases are not qualified to ensure the enforcement of Family Code, a project We are very keen on, in order to consolidate family coherence in a spirit of balance and equity.


Therefore, instead of creating a family allowance fund that might be misunderstood as an encouragement to what is for God the most detestable legal acts, and to family separation, We give Our instructions to Our Government to carefully study the creation of a family solidarity fund that will be financed by returns of stamps, of a symbolic value, affixed on (administrative) documents related to the personal and family statute. The Fund's disbursements will be allocated according to rigorous criteria in order to guarantee the rights of poorest mothers and protect children who risk to be abandoned following the divorce of their parents.


Our objective is to create a specialized justice that, in addition to an efficient settlement of disputes, will guarantee the right to a fair trial and to citizens' equality before the law in all circumstances and in all cases. Therefore, We order Our government to study the situation of the Special Court of Justice and to submit to Us proposals and conclusions. In this endeavor, they should bear in mind the paramount necessity to set in place a jurisdiction specialized in financial offenses, in order to moralize public life, protect public finances against all kinds of corrupt practices and engrain in the minds the culture and ethics of accountability.


Given that the improvement of justice performance depends on the training of magistrates and the improvement of the material situation of new judges and justice aides, We invite Our government to probe means to revise their material conditions and draft, for justice clerks, a motivating statute that is able to protect them against temptations and deviations that harm the honor of justice and the integrity of its mission.


We also call for the creation of an association of the Justice ministry staff that will see to the promotion of their social and professional situation, as part of an associative action, adapted to the specificity of justice. This association will not be designed as an administrative department but as a constitutional institution that should remain shielded against any influence or pressure of whatever form or origin.


In this context, and confirming the particular and constant interest that We grant to the situation of the justice family, We have decided to create a Mohammedian Foundation of Social welfare of magistrates and justice staff.


Meanwhile, We expect the Government of Our Majesty to seize the openness and partnership possibilities offered by the reform of the education and university and judiciary training systems to secure a modern and sound training to our magistrates and to all those who have justice-associated jobs.


However, the particular care that We extend to the social dimension, in the justice field, will not be complete without securing to imprisoned citizens their human dignity that is not, however, denied by a custodial sentence.


We have been deeply affected by the painful events that occurred in some prisons. Consequently and in parallel to the reform that encompasses penitentiary legislation and the ambitious action program for the re-integration of inmates, We have instructed to the Government of Our Majesty to build rapidly modern, civil and rural prison compounds and to see to the improvement of prisoners' material and moral conditions.


In a bid to alleviate the sufferings of some categories of prisoners who enjoy Our sympathy for humanitarian reasons, We have given Our High Directives to Our Minister of Justice to submit to Our High appreciation proposals to extend the Royal pardon to prisoners affected by incurable diseases, invalid or handicapped prisoners, pregnant or breast-feeding prisoners, or children who have particular education or artistic abilities. These proposals should be made respecting rigorous criteria and on the basis of precise list of names. We will announce at the appropriate time the decision that We have made.


We urge the government to seize the opportunity of the deadlines set before the entry into force of the new code of penal procedure to ensure the training of sentence enforcement judges, in such a way that would enable them monitor the behavior of repented prisoners and contribute to increasing release chances.




Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:12 PM

We implore God, The Almighty, to assist you, honorable magistrates, so that you do justice in total independence and righteousness, armed with the competency necessary and the Ijtihad required, to protect the security of citizens, and the inviolability of the nation and the State against any criminal or terrorist act. Such is the path that you have to follow to be worthy of the honor vested on you to render justice in the name of Our Majesty. It is a burdensome responsibility which we commit you to shoulder before God.


It is at this price that you will succeed in consolidating the trust of citizens and re-conciliate them with Justice. Therefore, you will make Justice prevail. This very justice that we have made the foundation and finality of Our doctrine of power. It is actually upon Justice that we pin the ambition to secure to Our free and proud people the cherished democratic progress, the social cohesion and the economic expansion.


Wassalamou Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatouh."


Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:14 PM

Message of HM King Mohammed VI to the first World Congress of Imams-Rabbis in Brussels




Brussels, Jan. 4 - Full text of the royal message to the first World Congress of Imams and Rabbis in Brussels.


“In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Praise be to Allah and peace and blessings be upon our lord, the Messenger of Allah, upon his Family, his companions, and upon all Prophets and Messengers.



Distinguished Ladies and Gentlemen,

I take great pleasure in extending ample and sincere thanks to my great friend, His Majesty, Albert II, King of Belgium, for graciously hosting such an exceptional event. All the more so that it is taking place within a historical context which gives one the impression that the voices -which call for the enhancement of sedateness, wisdom, and firmness in the relations that bind the members of a seemingly unique, yet forlorn humankind on a small planet in such a vast universe-are being muted.

Your Conference is being held at a time when mankind is confronted with one of the most deadly natural disasters ours planet has ever witnessed. I pray that the Almighty bless the souls of the men, women and children who have lost their lives. My heart also goes out to those who have lost loved ones and property, and who need our help and active support.

This disaster shows how fragile we are. It should induce us to show greater humanity, wisdom and clear-mindedness so that we may realize at last, that our short existence on earth must be used to foster brotherhood and resist any inclination towards discord and division.

Distinguished Ladies and Gentlemen,

As we are gathered here, we are filled with hope that our meeting will curb intolerance and exclusion that have come to be the main features marking our world. Given that humanity possesses all the necessary knowledge and science that allow it to look out into the future with foresight and deliberation, humanity in the Twenty-first century has actually transcended the era of introversion, aggrandized self-righteousness, and the illusion of holding absolute truth. Moreover, humanity has now developed such methodological and cognitive systems as would allow it to stand high above any demagogic and ideological stereotypes, which are premised on evidence that is valid neither in terms of authentic handed-down tradition, nor in terms of rational consideration.

I should not omit here to thank the officials in charge of the Institution, "Men of Word", for this responsible and courageous initiative which resides in organizing such a qualitative meeting which inaugurates a new course marked by the beginning of a serious and constructive dialogue between Islam and Judaism, for the sake of the advancement of humanity.

The Divine Message to humanity throughout the centuries, in general, and during the Abraham era, in particular, has been one of mercy, tolerance, and fraternity -a message aimed at developing the perception of human beings and at sharpening their capabilities in order to qualify them to grasp the overall cosmic process wherein they are and to draw their attention to the high standing of humankind and the enormous opportunities that are available to them in order to help them attain felicity both in this world and in the hereafter.

Indeed, in their religious lives human beings have been faced with situations that have threatened to upset this religious life, at times, and have served to strengthen it, at other times. Among the disturbances that have been detected throughout the history of humanity stand out the tendency of some to assume leadership and prominence -though they are utterly unqualified for such roles-and to falsely and spuriously hold in pledge the Name of Allah and the Words of Allah. In this, such pretentious people often exploit the religious feelings of peoples, leading them headlong towards perdition. Well-guided people, on the other hand, have ever striven to recover the Name of Allah and the Words of Allah in order to restore straightness to this pivotal and sensitive issue. Such strivings have constituted some of the major challenges confronted by humanity. The success of these well-guided people and the upholding of the voice of wisdom and perspicacity has also been the success of humanity, at large.

Distinguished Ladies and Gentlemen,

One of the most important obligations devolving to us is to seriously and diligently seek to remove the Name of Allah and the Words of Allah from the clutches of those who "gave the grace of Allah in exchange for thanklessness and led their people down to the Abode of Loss." (Surat Abraham, 14:28) -those who have self-appointed themselves as the defenders of intolerance and violence, and oftentimes, as the servants of death and extermination -through their uni-dimensional, whimsical, and fallacious use of religion. It behoves to us then to recover the Name of Allah and the Words of Allah and to re-analyze their authentic and original weighty meanings, which include such lofty values as mutual dialogue, the importance of listening to each other, mutual commendation, and growth -values which have not only led humanity towards enlightenment in its brightest historical eras but have also preserved its collective consciousness. Such recovery is undoubtedly based on a premise which cannot be overlooked or dispensed with, and that is the protection of the Major Issues and Questions which concern us all and require us to commit to them. The right of peoples and nations to freedom and dignity should not be a matter of negotiation, nor there a multiplicity of criteria for the protection of such rights, according to such considerations as creed or ethnicity. These rights are the same for each and all, and the militancy of those deprived from them is legitimate. Furthermore, our solidarity and support for them ought to be in the likeness of tight ranks which do not suffer from any rifts.


Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:15 PM

The act of firmly establishing our spiritual and religious lives on mutual dialogue, exchange, and encounters should not be at odds with the said solidarity and commitment. In fact, the opposite is true: the Words of Allah, when their use has been rehabilitated, should exhort us to serve the aforementioned issues and questions. Incidentally, unbelief both in Judaism and in Islam is tantamount to repelling the needy, refraining from exhorting the feeding of the indigent, and refusing to help the impoverished: "Hast thou observed him who belieth religion? That is he who repel the orphan, and urged not the feeding of the needy. Ah, woe unto worshippers who are heedless of their prayer; who would be seen (at worship) yet refuse small kindness!" (Surat Al-Mâ`ûn, or Small Kindness)

It follows then, that all of us should, with your leadership, O revered Imams and Rabbis, provide the model to emulate. We should act as the champions of the right of the Palestinians to live in peace, dignity, and justice side by side with the Israelis, who are reconciled with their Judaic values and the bases of our common creed. We should also collectively break the reflexive mirror which, for an unduly long time, given our peoples and nations an utterly distorted image of the concept of the holy war -an image which has, alas, been given wide currency by troublesome and seditious wrongdoers. However, the concept of holy war, in its ultimate meaning, is but the striving of the soul against evil temptations, be they manifest or hidden.

Distinguished Ladies and Gentlemen,

Morocco, your home or your second country, has defined, shaped, and develop its selfhood on the basis of this vision which has inspired the predominant spiritual experience in Morocco. Such an experience, moreover, has spread from it to reach all the other parts of the world, throughout history. Within the framework of this vision resides a pedagogy which aspires to become systematic and structural, and not merely occasional, --a civilized pedagogy which is characterized by sufficient depth and deliberate consideration, as well as by the requisite effectiveness. And the honor of inaugurating and steering such an initiative shall all be yours, O honorable people.

Morocco shall accompany you along the way, fully committed, involved, and active. It shall remain by your side, for you have chosen to liberate the effectiveness of the Words of Allah in order to serve justice, dignity, and peace. You have, likewise, refused to accept the fatalism of confrontation and to surrender to religious schisms, just as you have banished the logic of ethnic and religious exclusion. You have decided to make of your meeting the starting point of a long but systematic march towards the recovery of rightness, the re-building of hope, the resumption of the responsibility assumed by men and women of faith and religion in the character building and the guiding of humankind towards bliss in this world and in the hereafter.

Distinguished Ladies and Gentlemen,

You are called upon today to meet a double challenge: on the one hand, this entails releasing the Words of Allah, liberating their constructive effectiveness, and breaking the ice that has accumulated over the ages between all the believers in these words. In this connection, we ought to avail ourselves of the considerable cognitive achievements of humanity today. On the other hand, the other aspect of the challenge concerns the shoring up of the recovered ethical and value system.

The Royal Patronage of the present meeting, along with the important delegation which is attending it, serve to re-iterate Morocco's adherence to the practical semiotic signification spelled out by the present address and to express its support of this blessed function. Morocco also hopes that this gathering will be a constructive and pioneering space conducive to the attainment of the aims devolving to it.

I wish your courageous and responsible initiative ample success. And thank you for your kind attention.

Wassalamou alaikoum warahmatouallah wabarakatouh.

Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:17 PM





RABAT, Apr. 12 – HM King Mohammed VI addressed here Monday the Higher Council of the Judiciary.

The message is as follows:

“Praise be to God
Peace and blessings be upon the Prophet, His Kith and Kin

Honourable members of the Higher Council of the Judiciary,


It gives me pleasure to speak to you, and through you, to address the entire Judiciary. I wish to point out that I am keen to ensure the Judiciary has all the qualities required for the fulfillment of the mission assigned to it, namely to administer justice, thereby carrying out one of the major tasks of the supreme imamate. Indeed, justice is instrumental in guaranteeing responsible exercise of power, protecting the rights of citizens, and ensuring their equality before the law.

To hold its rightful place, the judiciary must win the citizens' confidence, a goal which hinges on the integrity and impartiality of judges, who must be protected from any influence or interference. The Judiciary's independence, to which I attach great importance, is not only an autonomy vis-à-vis the Executive and the Legislature --which is in fact guaranteed by the Constitution -- it is an independence from other powers, very tempting ones, especially that of money as a corrupt inducement. The same applies to the media, whose growing impact and influence in terms of shaping public opinion have actually made them a fourth power. In addition to this, there is the potential for evil in the human soul.

I do not believe the effective protection of the Judiciary from such major temptations can be guaranteed by judicial means only, however abundant they may be. Rather, the most effective safeguard is to be found in the pact between the judge and his conscience. It is this permanent, self-imposed sense of right and wrong which constitutes the ideal means for the judge to protect himself against any negative influence or deviation in discharging his noble mission.

Under its system as a constitutional monarchy, Morocco has made the Higher Council of the Judiciary a constitutional institution presided over by the Sovereign, and whose members, most of whom are elected, make sure that the guarantees afforded the judges are preserved. But it is mainly up to the Council members to ensure the independence, integrity and violability of the Judiciary. They must themselves reflect these high ideals by strictly complying with the profession's code of ethics. do all you can, then, to set the right example, keeping in mind that what matters is not so much the privilege of holding this office, but rather the obligations inherent in it. Make sure that, as you seek to redress a wrong, you do not, God forbid, commit an even greater offence.

Judges are just as accountable for their action as any other official, from the minister, who is answerable to the king and parliament, and even to the High Court of Justice, in the event of breach of the law, to the member of parliament, who loses his immunity, in the event of violation of the Constitution or of the law. In fact judges, whose mission is to ensure the supremacy of law, must not consider themselves to be above the law, nor think they are beyond the reach of justice, should they fail to honour their obligations. The protection they enjoy must not be perceived as a privilege; the safeguards it involves are meant to help judges discharge their mission independently, while fully respecting the law. Otherwise, who would be controlling the controllers?

Since I am determined to consolidate the institution-based State. I ask you to submit to me additional proposals concerning the Council's rules of procedure which are likely to enhance the independence of its members and enable the Council to make recommendations regarding those of its members who may impair the integrity of the Judiciary or breach its code of ethics. The aim is to ensure the behaviour of all members of the Council is a model of integrity and honesty.


Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:19 PM

As you know, I hold the integrity in high esteem and have pardoned and forgiven errors and mistakes made by some otherwise well-meaning members of your community. However, I urge the Council to be uncompromising when confronting any breach or violation of the norms or code of ethics of the Higher Council of the Judiciary or of the judicial community; I expect them to do so within the scope of the law and to uphold the integrity and sanctity of the judiciary.

That judges should discharge their important mission in an independent, impartial and dignified way does not mean, however, that they must relinquish their right to make constructive proposals for the reform of the judiciary. Nor does it imply they must refrain from exercising fully their rights as citizens, again within the scope of the law and in accordance with the ethics and specificities of the office they hold. It is within this in mind that I have set up three complementary institutions. First, there is the Higher Council of the Judiciary, which is the Constitutional institution that preserves the constitutional and legal guarantees afforded the judges. Then there is the Hassania Association for Judges, which serves as a forum for the judges to engage in multifarious activities, express their concerns and make proposals for the reform of the judicial system. Finally, there is the Mohammadia Foundation for social solidarity within the judicial community. Judges thus have ample opportunity to discuss and interact, and to propose concrete solutions to existing problems, within a clearly-defined institutional framework. Any attempt to exercise these rights outside the afore-mentioned institutions is likely to impair the Judiciary's independence and integrity, which are both essential for the proper fulfilment of its crucial mission.

“Judges are therefore expected to seek, within the scope of these institutions, solutions to issues regarding their profession as well as their situation. When all options available within these organs have been exhausted, and justice is still not done, or should cases of serious breach of the law persist, I shall be there to preserve the sanctity and independence of the judicial system, in all cases and circumstances, and see to it that rights are restored and things are back to normal again.

While fulfilling your vital mission and complying with its requirements, you will find that Amir Al Muminin (Commander of the Faithful), the first Servant of the nation, is not only the President of your Council, but also your staunchest ally. In your effort to accomplish your mission, however, I urge you to abide by the following divine command: "and if you judge between mankind, that you judge justly"; remember also the wisdom implied in the Prophet's words: "One judge in paradise, two in hell". Your mission, which consists in ensuring, on my behalf, that justice is rendered, makes your institution the only constitutional body whose sessions are opened and whose rulings are made in my name. Accordingly, I expect you to adhere fully and wholeheartedly to the current process of consolidating the rule of law, by firmly entrenching the principle of supremacy of the law, ensuring equality of citizens before its rule, and protecting rights and redressing iniquities. I also expect you to contribute effectively, truthfully and resolutely to the dissemination of the values of democracy and responsible citizenship, and to enhance confidence and stability, which help stimulate investment and are conducive to development, progress and prosperity.

May the Almighty guide your steps and make you worthy of my trust in you.

Monalisa 02-09-2005 06:23 PM

Full Text of the Speech Delivered by King Mohammed VI on the Occasion of the Establishment of the Justice and Reconciliation Commission
AGADIR, Jan.07 - Here follows the full text of the king’s speech delivered on the occasion of the establishment of the Justice and Reconciliation Commission:

“Praise be to God
Peace and blessings be upon the Prophet, His Kith and Kin
Ladies and Gentlemen,

As a further illustration of my determination to carry on with my effort to uphold human rights as a culture and as an attitude, I am setting up, today, the Justice and Reconciliation Commission, thus concluding the process of shelving a thorny issue once and for all. As soon as I acceded to the throne, I decided that this process, which was launched in the early nineties, should be consolidated.

Reflecting on the different international experiences in this particular field, one must acknowledge that Morocco, acting with wisdom and courage, has managed to come up with a model of its own.

I should like, in this respect, to hail the architects of these accomplishments, government authorities as well as social actors, and to remember, with humility and reverence, my august Father, His Majesty King Hassan II, God bless His soul, who was the driving force behind this process. I also wish to commend all those - public authorities, political parties, trade unions and NGOs - who have contributed to the achievement of this objective.

Similarly, I would like to pay tribute to the Independent Arbitration Commission for its commendable work with respect to the provision of compensation for the moral or material damage suffered. This breakthrough is recognized, both at home and abroad, as an outstanding achievement. It will provide a solid basis for the Justice and Reconciliation Commission to build on and complete the mission of its predecessor.

It is my firm determination to see to it that this issue is resolved once and for all, through further equitable, out-of-court settlements, as well as by healing past wounds and redressing the damage done. To this end, a bold, comprehensive approach, seeking justice, rehabilitation and reintegration, will be adopted to uncover the truth and draw lessons from the past. The aim is for Moroccans to be at peace with themselves and to be reconciled with their history, so that they may channel their energies towards building a modern, democratic society, which provides the best protection to avoid recurrence of past wrongs.

The work done by the previous Commission, and the final report you will be drawing up in an effort to establish the facts within a set time-frame, make us regard your commission as a truth and justice body. We are all aware that the truth uncovered is only relative, and that even historians, however impartial they may be, may not get at the whole truth, the more so absolute truth is known only to God. As the Almighty says: "He knoweth the traitor of the eyes, and that which the bosoms hide".

This Commission may count on my support in discharging its challenging tasks. Its chairman, Mr. Driss Benzekri, and all its members are known for their objectivity and high moral standards, their genuine commitment to human rights and their great skills in the Commission's extensive fields of competence. Seeking broad, diversified representation, I have made sure that half the Commission's membership come from the Human Rights Advisory Council, and the other half from different backgrounds. Nevertheless, all of them are dedicated to a common goal, namely to uphold human rights.
I should like to commend the members of this Commission and express my deep appreciation to them. I was truly delighted that they all readily and enthusiastically joined me in this initiative, willing and determined to ensure the success of this noble mission.

I am confident that the Commission, with such a prominent membership, will, God willing, manage, within the prescribed time, to rehabilitate the victims, bring comfort to their families, and achieve such reconciliation as will allay the wrath of the past, make the best use of past achievements and consolidate them, with a view to reaching a just, equitable, humane, civilised and final settlement of past abuses. I am sure that, in laying down its rules of procedure and in carrying out its mission, the Commission will consistently seek guidance from the decision whereby it was established, from international conventions on human rights, and from Islamic ideals, which advocate tolerance and forgiveness.

This is the path to follow if we are to consolidate the spirit of good citizenship, and make democracy, patriotism and dissemination of the culture of human rights and obligations the most reliable shield to protect our society from any propensity for extremism or terrorism. We are determined to fight such tendencies, to resolutely preserve security and stability, under the rule of law, and to channel all energies in order to make all Moroccans attuned to the aspirations of their nation and fully prepared to meet both domestic and external challenges.

This achievement is the culmination of an exemplary and unique process, in which we were all involved. It was conducted with confidence, audacity and circumspection. Our people, who are dedicated to democracy, neither turn their backs on their past, nor remain prisoners of its shortcomings. Instead, they derive strength and dynamism from it to build a modern, democratic society, wherein all citizens may exercise their rights and carry out their duties freely and responsibly.”

Amira 02-19-2005 01:10 PM

Nos princesses bousculent la tradition (Maroc Hebdo) - Part 1
 
This is a new article about the moroccan princesses from the moroccan newspaper Maroc-Hebdo

Nos princesses bousculent la tradition (Maroc Hebdo)
La Cour royale marocaine est millénaire et a gardé ses secrets par tradition séculaire. Aujourd’hui, le Palais s’est ouvert
et le protocole s’est allégé.
Par Loubna Bernichi



I Tried to translate it , sorry about the mistakes , i did my best :)

The princesses of Morocco always poke curiosity and exhale the mystery. As for any important public personality, their life intrigues and their the least action are épiés. The Moroccan royal Court is thousand-year-old and maintained its secrecies by secular tradition. Today, the Palace opened, the protocol became lighter, and the Queen Lalla Selma appears more and more as a public, at the sides of the King, her husband. With Reduction, where the princesses are more visible, but always inaccessible, they are the subject of all the conversations. The people of the capital ( RABAT) are with the mounting of least information with regard to them. And the rumours are welcome. There will be always the girlfriend of a girlfriend of the cousin of sister-in-law of the brother of so-and-so who attended one evening private where one of the princesses made her appearance. Consequently, the most incredible accounts are woven. And the most insane rumours become undeniable truths. The official exits of the princesses, strongly mediatized, also are very awaited. Especially by the female population. Their vestimentary appearance interests them more particularly. Hairstyle with the jewels, while passing by the clothes, the bag and the shoes. The whole is examined in the least detail. If the princesses cause such an amount of interest, it is that they are in the air of time. They get dressed at Chanel, Dior, Jean Paul Gauthier, Dolce Gabana, Gucci, Prada, the largest houses of haute couture Frenchwomen and Italian, and are fitted by the best bootmakers of the world. Their shoes are manufactured on order at Massaro or Fratelli Rossetti or Hogan. Their jewels, from the rare and exclusive parts, come from Cartier, Chaumet, Piaget, Van Cleef and well of another famous jewellers. Their perfumes, single, are manufactured by Masters perfumers as known as Guerlain, Yves SAINT LAURENT or Patou. If they do not attend the most famous hairdressing salons of the capital, it because they have their own hairdresser, is formed in the most prestigious schools of the world. The look of the princesses also evolved/moved. The dark colors, black, bleu.marine, gray and chestnut disappeared with the profit from clear colors and chatoyantes, the skirts were replaced by trousers and austere "the princely chignon" left place with the detached hair. There are two years and half, Lalla Hasna had even surprised while raising a small cut with the garçonne, very tendency at the time. The observers will say that this change marks the one era end. It is told that late King Hassan II took care personally of the vestimentary appearance of his daughters, Lalla Meryem, Lalla Asmaâ and Lalla Hasna. For example, the skirts were to be prolonged below the knee. Not a centimetre more and not one of less. The caftan of the princesses, official and obligatory evening dress, also meets standards of rigour. It is bent with the `` sfifa' ' in gold wire. The cut is full and right, with a drag of thirty centimetres. The way `` makhzenienne' ' is known and constant. The princesses never carried of other models. Although the Moroccan traditional behaviours go, currently, increasingly short and increasingly widened. The way of life of a princess in makes dream more one. However, it resembles that of any woman of the high society, but with less liberty of action. Protocol obliges. It would be unimaginable to see a princess making her races itself or for example to sit at table in good company in a crested place. On the other hand, it is not rare to cross them at the wheel of their car on one of the boulevards of the capital of the Kingdom. One even says that Lalla Asmaâ, like any mom, often accompanies her children at the school. However, evolving/moving in closed circles, the princesses are almost inaccessible. Which was not the surprise of a Morrocan woman when it saw Lalla Hasna, in a Parisian living room of hairstyle of great fame. It reports that it is with much sympathy and delicacy that the princess greeted, exchanging with it some complimentary closes. In Morocco, that would have been practically impossible. Living residences, highly protected, in particular, at Bir Kacem, a district cossu of Reduction, the private life of the princesses is placed under the sign of discretion. The only time where the people were introduced into their life, it was at the time of their respective marriages. Lalla Meryem, in 1984, in Fès with Fouad Filali, manager; Lalla Asmaâ, in 1986 in Rabat with Khalid Bouchentouf, businessman; and Lalla Hasnaâ in 1991, in Marrakech, with Dr. Khalil Benharbit, doctor. Popular festivals had been organized through all the Kingdom to celebrate their unions. Their ceremonies of marriage, retransmitted live by Moroccan television, were followed by hundreds of thousands of televiewers. In the tread, the Morrocans made the knowledge of the husbands of the princesses. None of them is of royal ascent. But all wire of famous commoners families. It should be noted that Hassan II always wanted that his daughters meet the common peoples. It is for that that the injuries of company of the princesses are girls resulting from modest mediums. Just as their comrades of class were selected in families representing various social layers. In this field, after the end of their secondary studies, Lalla Meryem obtained its baccalaureat in 1981 and carried out a long training course with UNESCO in Paris and Lalla Hasnaâ had its baccalaureat in 1985, they were strongly implied in the social and cultural life of Morocco. They are presidents various associations which play a driving part in the process of development of the country. Lalla Meryem is a president of the Foundation Hassan II for the Morrocans residing abroad, Lalla Asmaâ president of honor of the establishment Lalla Asmaâ of deaf-mute and Lalla Hasnaâ president of the Mohammed VI Foundation for the environment. They also take part in the political and economic life by representing Morocco in various diplomatic missions or while attending with the inauguration or the launching of projects. It is true that Lalla Asmaâ, from its discrete temperament, is less present on the media scene than her sisters, but it remains nevertheless very undertaking and very human. In fact, Lalla Meryem, Lalla Asmaâ and Lalla Hasnaâ made only encase the step with their aunts, girls of late Mohammed V, who abolished the image of formerly of princesses wearing of sumptuous toilets, avoided beautiful jewels, living in a gilded cage, often described in the accounts or painted in tables orientalists to flatter the Western phantasm. Time when the Morrocan women were only veiled and left accompanied by their husband or of their father, Lalla Aïcha, with face discovered and in Western behaviour, had brilliantly pronounced, April 10, 1947 on the place of Large Socco in Tangier, the first speech which referring to the independence of Morocco. At the time, this action had had a strong load symbolic system. It inaugurated, undoubtedly, the entry of the Moroccan woman in fields other than the education of the children and the housework. Named ambassadress in Italy and England, Lalla Aïcha, before being married with Hassan Yacoubi, was promised to the King Fayçal II of Iraq, assassinated in a blood bath with almost the whole of the royal family hachimite on July 14, 1958 by officers side-arabistes of the army in Baghdad. Elder girl of Mohammed V, this large injury, whose intelligence and smoothness have of equal only its benevolence, was the emblem of the modern Moroccan woman a long time. The feminist combat is not the only field where the princesses excelled. Lalla Malika, wife of a senior civil servant of State, Mohamed Cherkaoui, president of the Moroccan red Crescent, made much so that all the Morrocans reach the care. Lalla Amina, woman of late Moulay Driss El Ouazzani, president of the League of the child welfare, militates for the rights of the child. With this large sporting, one owes also the development of the equestrian sport in Morocco. Founder of the event Week of the horse, it made a success of the bet to popularize this sport formerly, prerogative of a restricted elite. Even if Lalla Fatima Zohra, wife of late prince Moulay Ali, mother of Moulay Abdellah, Moulay Youssef and Lalla Joumana, is a withdrawn princess of the public life, its weight and its role in the royal family are undeniable. Its homonym, cousin of fire Hassan II, girl of the sultan Abdelaziz (1894-1908), late Lalla Fatima Zohra El Azizia, president of the Union of the Moroccan Women, one fighting of the first hour, always fought so that the woman, considered as the weaker sex, is a citizen with whole share.

Amira 02-19-2005 01:12 PM

Nos princesses bousculent la tradition (Maroc Hebdo) - Part 2
 
The princess of raising, Lamia Solh, girl of Riad Bey Solh, Lebanese Prime Minister assassinated in Jordan in 1951, wife of late prince Moulay Abdellah and mother of Moulay Hicham, Lalla Zineb and Moulay Ismail, is not in remainder. With charm and grace, it brought a ray of heat and a glimmer of hope in the life of the blind men to Morocco. President of the Organization for the protection of the blind men in Morocco (OPAM), it battles until today still improving their conditions within the company. Avant-gardists, the princesses were always an example to be followed for the Morrocan women. They solely did not help with their emancipation, but also with the change of mentalities. With the official advertisement of the divorce of Lalla Meryem of her ex-husband, Fouad Filali, a taboo is raised. Like what, no woman, not even a princess, must force herself to live near a man with whom it seems more not to be happy. Another taboo of size fell with the public appearance of the wife of King Mohammed VI, the princess Lalla Salma. A first in the long history of the country. From now on, the woman of the King exists and it is seen. It is beautiful educated girl, engineer of her state. Exit of a modest medium, it is it which occupies now the row of first injury of the country, role at one time held by the princesses, sisters of the King In this quality, Lalla Salma engages in the social and cultural life. It does not have only one to smile radiant, a hair color fire and a fine skin and pinky, but it has also character. It is before all a young woman in phase with her time. Another princess, and not the least, it is Lalla Soukaïna, elder girl of Lalla Meryem, the only one of the grandchildren of Hassan II to have this title, so much the late King cherished her. In 2000, Lalla Soukaïna appears at the sides of King Mohammed VI in official visit in Spain with Lalla Meryem and its brother Moulay Idriss like a quite bearing teenager, but well badly at ease in this new mission. Four years later, resplendent in traditional white caftan, it poses at the sides of her mother and the Rania queen of Jordan at the time of the second Summit of the Arab woman, in November 2004. Its solar charm and its cat-like beauty do not leave indifferent. One of the most withdrawn princesses, it is Lalla Zineb,sister of Moulay Hicham (Mohamed VI's cousin). This graduate of the higher Institute of the trade and administration of companies (ISCAE) carries out its life far from fires of the slope. Since the advertisement of her marriage with Mohamed Benslimane, businessman and grandson of Fatmi Benslimane, famous Pasha of Fès, one more did not intend to speak about it until December 2004, day of the inauguration of the Dior store in Marrakech, where it made an entry noticed with the arm of her husband. Thus, between tradition piously observed and solved modernity, the royal Court opened to the Morrocans. And the princes and princesses cut through a new path with a new manner of belonging to the royal family.

rosa 02-20-2005 04:48 AM

The article of “maroc-hebdo”doesn't learned me something interessant about the princesses, what opinions have Moroccan about them, are they effective in their work, a big number of aspect concerning them would can be debated that were not

Besides concerning lalla salma, is she really implies in the associative and cultural life, or the journalist tried to embellish the reality

I think that the journalist made a superficial and too «politically correct» article

abir 02-20-2005 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa
The article of “maroc-hebdo”doesn't learned me something interessant about the princesses, what opinions have Moroccan about them, are they effective in their work, a big number of aspect concerning them would can be debated that were not

Besides concerning lalla salma, is she really implies in the associative and cultural life, or the journalist tried to embellish the reality

I think that the journalist made a superficial and too «politically correct» article

First thanks to everyone who contribute in this forum.

I was going to post the same opinion rosa and I agree totally with you. The article of "maroc-hebdo" published very superficial and very ordinary information about the princesses ... that any people can discuss about them, like the protocol, princesses’ dresses/fashion, way of life, etc.

So to me it's not an interesting article, it didn't include any good analyses or what normally a journalist should present to public.

Monalisa 02-23-2005 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Amira

Lalla Aïcha, with face discovered and in Western behaviour, had brilliantly pronounced, April 10, 1947 on the place of Large Socco in Tangier, the first speech which referring to the independence of Morocco. At the time, this action had had a strong load symbolic system. It inaugurated, undoubtedly, the entry of the Moroccan woman in fields other than the education of the children and the housework. Named ambassadress in Italy and England, Lalla Aïcha, before being married with Hassan Yacoubi, was promised to the King Fayçal II of Iraq, assassinated in a blood bath with almost the whole of the royal family hachimite on July 14, 1958 by officers side-arabistes of the army in Baghdad..



Thanks Amira to have take time to translate this article and to have post it:) !


My knowledge is PL.Aesha wasn't promissed or engaged to king faisal of iraq,but the late king Mohammed V refused and didn't agree when K.Faisal asked him to take his duaghter PL.Aesha as a wife!

I understund that the moroccan royalty didnt use to muddle it destiny to the other ME royalties,as it was used to be between Egypt and Iran,Jordan and Iraq and now Jordan and gulf royals!


I wonder what would be the impact if PL.Aesha became the queen of iraq,and was killed with king Faisal!:confused: ?

isis 04-05-2005 09:46 AM

I find this article in el mundo

El opositor marroquí Hicham Mandari: 'El rey es un muñequito en manos de su esposa Salma'

INÉS BELAIBA

Había sido definido como "el hombre que sabía demasiado" y no era alguien precisamente cómodo ni grato para el régimen de Marruecos. Hicham Mandari, "hermanastro" y "principal opositor" al rey Mohamed VI, apareció el pasado día 4 de agosto con un disparo en la cabeza en un ‘parking’ cerca de Mijas (Málaga). Pocos días antes, el semanario marroquí ‘Le Journal’ publicaba su última entrevista, aunque omitiendo todos los nombres y las frases relativas a que fuera hijo de Hasán II.

Dos semanas después de su asesinato, EL MUNDO ofrece las declaraciones íntegras del disidente marroquí que había amenazado con revelar escándalos financieros de la familia real alauí en una carta publicada en ‘The Washington Post’. Esta es la última entrevista de Hicham Mandari. Sin censura.

Pregunta.– Asegura que ha salido victorioso de un proceso judicial que le enfrentaba a Marruecos. ¿A qué se debe tal proceso y cuáles fueron las consecuencias?
Respuesta.– El proceso fue iniciado por Palacio, en nombre de Mohamed VI, por unas sumas de dinero que cogí antes de salir de Marruecos. De este modo, al bloquearme financieramente, contaban con obligarme a regresar a Marruecos. Todo comenzó con este proceso. Antes de la muerte de Hasán II no había agresividad contra mí. Hoy soy víctima de violencia. El Palacio me acusó de robo pero, según el tribunal de Nueva York, no puede haber robo entre dos miembros de la misma familia. Mi caso se consideraba un asunto de Estado. El Palacio recurrió y volvió a perder la apelación hace tan sólo unos doce días. Y tienen que entregarme 132 millones de dólares por daños y prejuicios. De hecho, tengo que volver lo más rápido posible a EEUU para firmar todos los papeles, y que el Banco Federal norteamericano me abra el grifo del dinero. Porque la verdad es que sigo teniendo mis cuentas bloqueadas en el Banco de Nueva York.

P.– ¿A qué se debe su enemistad con el rey?
R.- Lo que Hasán II siempre quiso es que una sola de sus mujeres fuese la madre de sus hijos. Todas las demás debían abortar. Mi madre, Farida, no podía abortar por problemas cardíacos, y desde mi nacimiento fui confiado a la familia Mandari. Todos los problemas actuales se originan en historias de celos entre mujeres, entre la madre del actual rey y la mía, pero también entre Mohamed VI y yo, como hermanastros que somos. Nunca nos entendimos bien. Hubo asuntos económicos entre nosotros. Cuando él era príncipe heredero no tenía dinero, sólo recibía 100.000 dirhams al mes. En cambio, yo disponía de un dinero ilimitado. ¿Entiende lo que quiero decir? Pero ahora quiere hacer creer que soy un desconocido para él y se niega a admitir muchas cosas. Yo no puedo seguir así. Por eso se creó el Consejo Nacional de Marroquíes Libres (CNML, partido de oposición fundado por Mandari en 2003). Su primera carta fundacional era muy dura, porque exigía que el Rey hiciese las maletas. Salma Benani [esposa de Mohamed VI desde marzo de 2002] no puede seguir dirigiendo el país. El es como un muñequito en sus manos... Hoy me veo obligado a permanecer en Francia. En cualquier caso, ellos intentan mantenerme aquí.


English Translation



The Moroccan opponent Hicham Mandari: ' The king is a puppet in hands of his wife Salma'

INÉS BELAIBA

It had been defined as the man that knew too much and it was not somebody precisely comfortable neither I burnish for the régime of Morocco. Hicham Mandari, " stepbrother " and main opponent to the king Mohamed VI, he appeared last day August 4 with a shot in the head in a ‘parking ' near Mijas (Málaga). Few days before, the Moroccan weekly publication Lle Journal ' published its last interview, although omitting all the names and the relative sentences to that it was son of Hasán II.


Two weeks after their murder, El Mundo offers the Moroccan dissident's entire declarations that he had threatened to reveal financial scandals of the family real alauí in a letter published in ‘The Washington Post '. This is the last interview of Hicham Mandari. Without censorship.


asks.–it Assures that it has left victorious of a judicial process that faced to Morocco. To what is such a process owed and which were the consequences?

Answer.–The process was begun by the palace, on behalf of Mohamed VI for some sums of money that I caught before leaving Morocco. This way, when blocking me financially, they had to put under an obligation to return to Morocco. Everything began with this process. Before the death of Hasán II didn't have aggressiveness against me. Today I am victim of violence. The Palace accused me of robbery but, according to the tribunal of New York, it cannot have robbery between two members of the same family. My case was considered a matter of State. The Palace appealed and it lost the appeal only about twelve days ago again. And they have to surrender 132 million dollars for damages and prejudices. In fact, I have to return the quickest thing possible to USA to sign all the papers, and that the North American Federal Bank opens up the faucet of the money. Because the truth is that I continue having my bills blocked in the Bank of New York.

P.–does it owe himself their enmity with the king TO what?

R. - That that Hasán II always wanted it is that an alone of their wives was the mother of their children. All the other ones should miscarry. My mother, Farida, could not miscarry for heart problems, and from my birth I was confident to the family Mandari. All the current problems originate in histories of jealousies among women, between the current king's mother and mine, but also among Mohamed VI and me, as stepbrothers that we are. We never understood each other well. There were economic matters among us. When he was prince heir he didn't have money, he only received 100.000 dirhams a month. On the other hand, I had a limitless money. Does that understand that mean? But now he wants to make believe that I am a stranger for him and he refuses to admit many things. I cannot continue this way. For that reason I cearte the National Council of Moroccans Liberates (CNML, party of opposition been founded by Mandari in 2003). Its first letter basis was very hard, because it demanded the King to make his suitcases. Salma Benani [wife of Mohamed SAW from March of 2002] cannot continue directing the country. hes as a puppet in her hands... Today I am forced to remain in France. Anyway, they try to stay here. :)

does salma play double game?
shy in public and manipulator actually??????????
what do you think,

isis 04-05-2005 09:56 AM

ESTÉTICA|DE MODA ENTRE LOS RICOS
El cóctel del doctor Chams que sustituye al “lifting”

Tiene clínica en París, pero gracias a una esteticista española los domingos pasa consulta en Madrid. Su fórmula milagrosa consiste única y exclusivamente en poner jeringuillas cargadas de vitaminas en el rostro. O eso dice. Ojeras, papada, flacidez... desaparecen con efectos inmediatos. La sesión cuesta 1.500 euros, pero no recibe más que a 20 pacientes en el día (¡30.000 euros en una jornada!). Isabel Preysler, las hermanas Koplowitz o Rania de Jordania son algunas clientas. Pero también hay hombres, incluso algún político de los que están en campaña. El doctor Chams además hace recuperar el pelo, adelgazar y devuelve las energías perdidas. “Me dijo: ‘Eres divina y te voy a dejar mejor que a una muñeca’”, confiesa una de sus pacientes. “Dudo mucho que sólo use vitaminas”, opina alguien del gremio.

No tan encantadas quedaron algunas de aquellas clientas que solían viajar a París. Se cuenta que a las Koplowitz, por ejemplo, no les gustó ni que su secreto se hiciera público ni que tantas mujeres pasaran a beneficiarse de él. Unos dicen que siguen prefiriendo ir a París y otros que el iraní las atiende en sus casas... Para otras, se abrieron los cielos. El doctor no revela la identidad de ninguna y la clínica tampoco, pero en ciertos círculos sociales los nombres de sus pacientes corren de boca en boca: Isabel Preysler, Marisa de Borbón, Nicole Kidman (que entabló contacto con él mientras rodaba en España Los otros), Marta Chávarri, Ana Rosa Quintana, Carmen Martínez-Bordiú, Nati Abascal... Y hombres, muchos hombres, actores, empresarios y políticos, “algunos de los que están estos días en campaña”, comenta Chams. Pero también gente anónima procedente de distintas ciudades españolas.

Unos y otros aguardan su turno en una lista de espera hasta que son convocados en el IME, por donde cada domingo pasa una veintena de pacientes a los que se empieza a recibir a las nueve de la mañana. La sala de espera siempre está vacía, nadie ve a nadie, nadie espera: unos entran y, sin percibirlo, se cruzan con los que salen. Cada media hora, un paciente. Cada paciente, 1.500 euros. Total, 30.000 euros en un solo día. “Chams los ve a todos del tirón”, comenta una de sus asistentes. “No para ni para comer. Sólo bebe un poco de agua y come alguna manzana”. Cuando acaba, sale disparado hacia el aeropuerto y toma el avión de vuelta a París. Un día al mes, sin embargo, cancela sus citas y sube a un jet privado que le traslada a lugares como Marruecos, para pinchar en el palacio a la reina Salma Bennani, o a Jordania, donde le recibe Rania (por cierto, no son estos los únicos palacios que frecuenta el doctor, pues se rumorea que también se le ha visto por la Zarzuela...). Princesas, esposas de presidentes... “Se lo hacen todas, ¿sabe por qué? Porque todas son amigas”, bromea el médico.



English Translation


ESTÉTICA|DE FASHION AMONG THE RICH ONES

The doctor's cocktail Chams that substitutes to the " lifting "

He has clinic in Paris, but thanks to a Spanish beautician on Sundays it happens it consults in Madrid. Their miraculous formula consists only and exclusively in putting syringes loaded with vitamins in the face. Or that says. Rings, jowl, flacidez... they disappear with immediate effects. The session costs 1.500 Eurus, but he doesn't receive more than to 20 patients in the day (30.000 Eurus in a day!). Isabel Preysler, the sisters Koplowitz or Rania of Jordan are some clientas. But there are also men, even some politician of those that are in campaign. The doctor Chams also makes recover the hair, to lose weight and it returns the lost energy. "He told me: ' You are divine and I will leave you better than to a muñeca'", one of their patients admits. "I doubt a lot that it only uses vitamins", somebody of the union says.

Not so charmed they were some of those clientas that used to travel to Paris. It is counted that to the Koplowitz, for example, they didn't like neither that their secret became public neither that so many women passed to benefit of him. Some say that they continue preferring to go to Paris and others that the Iranian assists them in his houses... For other, the skies opened up. The doctor doesn't neither reveal the identity of any and the clinic, but in certain social circles the names of their patients run of mouth in mouth: Isabel Preysler, Marisa of Borbón, Nicole Kidman (that it began contact with him while it rotated in Spain The other ones), Marta Chávarri, Ana Rosa Quintana, Carmen Martínez-Bordiú, Nati Abascal... AND men, many men, actors, managers and political, some of those that are these days in campaign", Chams comments. But also anonymous people coming from different Spanish cities.

Some and others await their shift in a wait list until they are summoned in the IME, for where every Sunday passes a score of patient to those that you begins to receive at nine in the morning. The wait room is always empty, nobody goes to anybody, nobody waits: some enter and, without perceiving it, they cross with those that come out. Each stocking hour, a patient. Each patient, 1.500 Eurus. Total, 30.000 Eurus in only one day. "Chams sees them to all of the tug", one of its assistants comments. "It doesn't stop neither to eat. He only drinks some water and he eats some apple". When it ends up, it leaves shot toward the airport and taking the turn airplane to Paris. One day a month, however, does cancel its appointments and does it go up to a deprived jet that it transfers to places like Morocco, to puncture in the palace to the queen Salma Bennani, or to Jordan, where Rania receives him (these are not by the way, the only palaces that the doctor frequents, because it is murmured that he has also been seen by the Operetta...). Princesses, presidents' wives... do they make it to him all, does he know why? Because all are friends", the doctor jokes.

I always thought that lalla salma didn't use this kind of process, I am very surprised :confused: :)

loubna2 04-06-2005 09:58 AM

the articles posting by isis are very interresting, but I can't believe that lalla salma was a manipultor, she seems very kind and simple
and about the lifting, her face doesn't change between the time when she was unmarried and now
what is the opinion of other members about these two subjects?

Layla27 04-07-2005 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by loubna2
the articles posting by isis are very interresting, but I can't believe that lalla salma was a manipultor, she seems very kind and simple
and about the lifting, her face doesn't change between the time when she was unmarried and now
what is the opinion of other members about these two subjects?

Why would Salma Bennani need a lift, she is barely 25 or 26 years old ?!!!!!:confused:

isis 04-17-2005 05:07 AM

I read that a Moroccan newspaper had written a set of articles on lalla salma, and that it received a warning because of it
is someone knows what said these articles

Amira 04-17-2005 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by isis
I read that a Moroccan newspaper had written a set of articles on lalla salma, and that it received a warning because of it
is someone knows what said these articles

Do you know by any chance the name of this newspaper?

isis 04-18-2005 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Amira
Do you know by any chance the name of this newspaper?

yes, its a newspaper in arabic, its name is "Al jarida Al Oukhra"
I'm very currious to know what said this newspaper, hope we can find these articles

rosa 04-18-2005 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by isis
yes, its a newspaper in arabic, its name is "Al jarida Al Oukhra"
I'm very currious to know what said this newspaper, hope we can find these articles

I don't found the articles, but RSF spoke about that
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=13197

loubna2 04-19-2005 05:48 AM

I find this article in moroccan newspaper "le journal hebdo"

Al Jareeda Al Oukhra berated


In its edition of the 6 to 12 April, the weekly arabophone «Al Jareeda Al Oukhra», managed by the even Ali Anouzla-Taoufik Bouachrine, respectively leading of publication and editor-in-chief of the tabloid, dedicated its main file and therefore its frontpage by one topic eminently people, the life style of the princess Lalla Salma, wife of the King. we learn there among others her favorite marks of clothes, her favorite course and the nature of her relations (convivial) with the prince Moulay Rachid, in a light and playful style, in same way of numerous similar reports that are in the French-speaking magazines of the kind of “Paris Match” or “Voici”. Until there, all goes well in the best of the journalistic worlds. until the following day of the release, April 7, when Abdelhak MeRini, director of the Royal protocol and the chancellery, addressed a letter with menacing tone at the two impertinent about the topic. later, Ali Anouzla will be invited to present himself to the judiciary police in April 15 about this business. Beyond the fact to know if his position allowed Abdelhak MeRini to address such a missive to the content destroyer, it must noted the ambivalence between the speech of opening and modernization of the system extolled, with the drought of the reaction, disproportionate for a business of this kind.

rosa 04-19-2005 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by loubna2
I find this article in moroccan newspaper "le journal hebdo"


I share the opinion, of le journal hebdo

All this hubbub to have spoken of the culinary tastes and the clothes of salma, it is ridiculous

In a democratic country, the article would pass unobserved, but in Morocco it is considered like a sacrilege, and the director of the newspaper is convoked by the judicial police as if he committed a crime

M6 himself exhibited his wife on Paris Match, and now the protocol takes offense that of Moroccan newspaper is interested to salma

For me, it means a thing, to outsiders the MRF wants to give the picture of a modern and open family, but for the Moroccan people she must remain surrounded of a mystery halo

if Moroccan newspapers shows to their fellow citizen that this family is composed of human beings as them, this family's sacredness will evaporate and people will ask themselves the question to know why the power is detained by this family

loubna2 04-20-2005 04:58 AM

I read that on moroccan newspaper telquel
Ticket: The Palace and the press (by Driss ksikes)

The royal surrounding tackles to put back the red lines in their place. Each goes there of his personal key. Some on the sly, others by indirect ways. The chief of the protocol and the royal chancellery, Abdelhaq Lemrini, , didn't beat around the bush. He reacted in writing to the coquettish file achieved by Al Jarida Al Oukhra on the culinary, sartorial habits, behavioural and kindergartens of the princess Lalla Salma. Under a layer of gentleness, carefully spread, Lemrini tempts to put the poles of a normality to come in the relations of the press with the Palace. He decrees to be alone authorized to speak of life deprived of the king's wife. To this symbolic monopoly pretension, the publication of Ali Anouzla opposes a will legitimate to pass this Moroccan exception that weights us and forbids us to bring to make a star of our first lady. The weekly gives itself the right to pierce the alcoves of the Palace to give the wife’s king.a more human face

The architect of the ancestral protocol of the Méchouar doesn't hear it of this ear. He values t that the good old traditions of modesty and non interference in the internal life of the royal family prevail. The recipients of his missive refuse to align on the exception of the Moroccan press, condemned to remain aside from the royal life, and claim the right to be as peeping tom that a Paris Match. Mine of nothing, Lemrini warns the newspaper of the risks that it incurs while making to turn up one’s nose at that. In answer, Al Jarida Al Oukhra blames him for this menacing tone and recalls him that for it, the tradition counts a lot less that the law. This exchange, summarize the misunderstanding that it can have there between a press that claims itself exclusively of modernity and a monarchy that wrap of customs to remain out of the time.

Amira 05-01-2005 10:17 PM

If someone ,plzzzz can translate this article ...thank you :)

Au Maroc, la princesse aux pieds nus attire sur la presse la colère du Palais
(Le Monde)

on ne badine pas avec la vie privée de la famille royale au Maroc. Le dernier-né des hebdomadaires arabophones vient de l'apprendre à ses dépens. Il a reçu du ministre de la Maison royale, du protocole et de la chancellerie, Abedelhak El-Mrini, une lettre lourde de menaces.

Dans un numéro publié début avril, Al Jarida Al-Oukhra ("l'autre journal" ) a publié un reportage "non autorisé" dévoilant quelques aspects de la vie privée de l'épouse du roi Mohammed VI, Son Altesse Royale Lalla Salma.

Alimenté par des indiscrétions glanées auprès du nombreux personnel attaché à la monarchie, l'article illustré de photos officielles comportait son lot de révélations. On y apprenait ainsi que le tajine aux carottes est le plat préféré de Lalla Salma, qu'il arrive à la jeune princesse de donner à manger à son fils Hassan, que sa garde-robe est signée par de grands couturiers, qu'elle a interdit à son entourage d'implorer le nom de Dieu à tort et à travers et, scandale suprême, qu'elle aime à se promener pieds nus dans les nombreux palais du royaume.

Gardien des traditions d'une monarchie plus ancienne que celle qui règne en Grande-Bretagne, le ministre de la Maison royale ne pouvait pas ne pas réagir. Moins de vingt-quatre heures après la mise en vente de l'hebdomadaire, son directeur, Ali Anouzla, recevait donc une missive officielle. Le journal "est allé trop loin" en osant aborder "les détails les plus intimes de la vie privée de Son Altesse" , faisait valoir le ministre. "Je vous préviens que les conséquences de votre comportement peuvent être néfastes" , ajoutait-il, avant de rappeler que son département est le seul habilité à divulguer des informations sur la famille royale.

Le directeur d'Al Jarida Al-Oukhra ne s'en est pas laissé conter, en dépit de cette démarche exceptionnelle. Dans un communiqué, il a répliqué en faisant valoir que le ministre "n'est pas habilité à juger l'action journalistique" et que des tribunaux existent pour trancher s'il y a eu ou non atteinte à la vie privée. "Cette lettre vise à nous intimider. Ils veulent nous faire taire" , affirme au Monde le journaliste, fort du succès de sa couverture : la princesse a permis de doubler les ventes du jeune hebdomadaire. "Nous avons fait un deuxième tirage, raconte M. Anouzla, et nous allions en faire un troisième quand la lettre du ministre est arrivée. Nous avons préféré en rester là par crainte d'une intervention des autorités."

Cette mésaventure illustre la distance qu'entend maintenir la monarchie alaouite avec la presse du royaume. Pourtant très à l'aise avec les journalistes, le roi Hassan II, au cours de son très long règne, n'a jamais accordé d'entretien à un organe de presse marocain. Son fils a adopté la même politique. "Lorsque Mohammed VI voyage à l'étranger, les journalistes qui l'accompagnent sont placés dans un autre avion. Et lorsqu'il se fait photographier en famille, les clichés sont pour Paris Match. Pas pour nous" , note le directeur du journal par qui le scandale est arrivé. Et d'ajouter : "Je suis prêt à recommencer à parler de ce qui se passe derrière les murs du Palais."

Jean-Pierre Tuquoi

Monalisa 05-01-2005 10:23 PM

translation to english of the article above
 
In Morocco, the princess with the naked feet attracts on the press the anger of the Palace.

(Le monde or the world paper) one doesnt have to play with the private life of the royal family in Morocco. The last-born child of the weekly magazines Arabic-speaking people has just learned it with his costs. He received from the Minister of the royal House, the protocol and the chancellery, Abedelhak El-Mrini, a heavy letter of threats. In a issue published at the beginning of April, Al Jarida Al-Oukhra ("the other newspaper") published an "unauthorized" report revealing some aspects of the private life of the wife of king Mohammed VI, Her Royal Highness Lalla Salma. Supplied with indiscretion attached to monarchy, the illustrated article of official photographs comprised its batch of revelations. One learned there as well as the tajine with carrots is the preferred dish of Lalla Salma, than it sometimes happens to the young princess to give to eat to her son prince moulay Hassan , than her garde-robe is signed by large dressmakers, than it prohibited to her entourage to wrongly beseech the name of God and through and, supreme scandal, than it likes to walk naked feet in the many palates of the kingdom.

Guard of the traditions of a monarchy older than that which reigns in Great Britain, the Minister for the royal House could not not react. Less than twenty-four hours after the setting on sale of the weekly magazine, its director, Ali Anouzla, thus received an official missive. The newspaper "was too far" daring to approach "the most intimate details of the private life of her Highness", put forward the minister. "I warn you that the consequences of your behavior can be harmful", added it, before recalling that its department is only the ability to reveal information on the royal family. The Al director Jarida Al-Oukhra did not let himself any tell, in spite of this exceptional step. In an official statement, he retorted by making the point that the minister "is not entitled to consider the action journalistic" and that courts exist to slice if it or not reached there with the private life. "This letter aims at intimidating us. They want to make us conceal ", affirms in the World the journalist, extremely success of its cover: the princess allowed to double the sales of the young weekly magazine. "We made the second pulling, tells Mr. Anouzla, and we were going to make a third of it when the letter of the minister arrived. We preferred to remain about it there by fear of an intervention of the authorities." This mishap illustrates the distance which monarchy alaouite with the press of the kingdom intends to maintain. However very at ease with the journalists, the king Hassan II, during his very long reign, never granted maintenance to a Moroccan body of press. His/her son adopted the same policy. "When Mohammed VI travels abroad, the journalists who accompanies it are placed on another aircraft. And when it is made photograph in family, the stereotypes are for Paris Match. Not for us ", note the director of the newspaper by which the scandal arrived. And to add: "I am ready to start again to speak about what occurs behind the walls from the Palace."

Jean-Pierre Tuquoi

Layla27 05-24-2005 06:30 AM

This is an intersting article from a moroccan magazine named telquel. Its title is : "The Speech and the Method (Our King has multiple qualities, but not the one of communication)"

Sorry, it is in French.

Le discours et la méthode
(Notre roi a probablement de multiples dons, mais pas celui de communiquer)
Mohammed VI n'est pas doué pour les discours. Ça fait six ans qu’on se retient de le dire, craignant (vaguement) d’attenter à une quelconque sacralité. Mais être sacré ne veut pas dire être infaillible. Notre roi a probablement de multiples dons, mais pas celui de communiquer. Son dernier discours, délivré mercredi 18 mai, en a donné une nouvelle illustration. D’abord, Mohammed VI lit ostensiblement des feuilles de papier posées sur son bureau, les yeux baissés. Il ne les lève que fugacement, à la fin de chaque paragraphe. Et Dieu que ces paragraphes sont longs et qu’il faut s’accrocher pour les suivre ! De grâce, Messieurs les rédacteurs des discours, faites des phrases courtes et percutantes, et conseillez à Sa Majesté d’abandonner ses feuilles et de regarder son peuple (c’est-à-dire la caméra) dans les yeux. Convaincre 30 millions de personnes, cela vaut bien le coup d’apprendre un texte par cœur, et de "jouer" un peu. Les chefs des plus grands états le font, et s’ils ne sont pas à l’aise devant une caméra (c’est le cas de beaucoup), ils font appel à des coachs pour les aider à surmonter leur gêne. Pourquoi le nôtre ne ferait-il pas pareil ? Au minimum, il y a les prompteurs. Tous les présentateurs de journaux télévisés en ont un, ce qui leur permet de lire un texte préparé sans quitter le téléspectateur des yeux. Le roi, en plus, a l’avantage du différé (le discours de mercredi, délivré à 20h30, avait été enregistré à 18h) – ce qui lui permet de refaire les prises tant qu’elles ne sont pas bonnes. Zéro risque, bénéfice maximum…
Parlons maintenant du fond. Mercredi dernier, Mohammed VI a annoncé, solennellement, le lancement de l’Initiative Nationale pour le Développement Humain (INDH). Il s’agit, en gros, de remettre à niveau 350 communes rurales et 250 quartiers périurbains, tous ravagés par la pauvreté. Formidable ambition, franchement. Mais comment la réaliser ? Pour préparer un plan d’action, le roi a donné 3 mois au Premier ministre. Or, l’équipe rapprochée de ce dernier n’était au courant de rien avant le discours, non prévu sur le calendrier et annoncé 48 heures à l’avance. Que dire, alors, des différents ministres – et notamment celui des Finances, qui va s’arracher les cheveux pour débloquer un budget gigantesque sans toucher aux impôts (c’est le roi qui l’a dit)… Messieurs, vous avez trois mois, top chrono. Rompez !
Curieuse méthode, tout de même. Dans les pays normaux, le chef de l’état travaille en bonne intelligence avec le gouvernement, et une fois que tout est prêt, il annonce la bonne nouvelle. Chez nous, le roi a une idée, il la garde pour lui jusqu’à la dernière minute, puis il balance publiquement la patate chaude au Premier ministre, qui n’a d’autre choix que de s’incliner devant les instructions royales – et de clamer, pour faire bonne mesure, qu’elles sont l’expression même du génie. Et on dit que l’esprit Makhzen est en régression…
Enfin… L’INDH est sans doute une idée généreuse, mais tout ce qu’on en sait, pour l’instant, c’est le discours royal qui l’a annoncée. Un discours plutôt lénifiant, révélateur de surcroît d’un problème de gouvernance. Restez optimistes, après ça…


http://www.telquel-online.com/177/edito_177.shtml

Monalisa 07-04-2005 11:56 AM

Interesting article from the Guardian paper:
 
MRF and gossips:

http://www.royalarchive.com/images/s...la%20salma.jpgMorocco's royal family may be of little interest to the Beckhams as they nurse their grievances over the indiscretions of a treacherous nanny.

But King Mohammed VI has threatened dire consequences for a Rabat newspaper that portrayed his wife, Princess Lalla Salma, roaming barefoot in the palace, bossing the servants, enjoying carrot tagine and playing with the royal heir - whose circumcision ceremony was marked in traditional fashion with amnesties for 7,000 prisoners.

These Hello!-style revelations in al-Jarida al-Ukhra, also clearly relying on gossipy staff, were flattering enough (they doubled the weekly's circulation) but they have gone too far in denting the magic of Morocco's Alaoui monarchy, a dynasty older than the House of Windsor, a lot more sensitive and a good deal more powerful.

Like Jordan's King Abdullah, Bashar al-Assad in Syria and Saif al-Islam al-Gadafy in Libya, Mohammed VI, bearer of the ancient Muslim title "commander of the faithful", was hailed as the bright hope of Arab modernisers when he succeeded his father, Hassan II, in 1999.

Mohammed has struck some important blows for reform - liberalising the Moroccan economy, encouraging multi-party democracy, launching anti-poverty campaigns, easing restrictions on Islamists and promoting women's rights. On the negative side, critics point to high unemployment, the persistent misery of the shanty towns and the crackdown on hardline Islamists after 9/11, the Madrid train bombings and the Casablanca attacks.

Morocco's media have seen some loosening of the official grip: publication of the king's salary and royal budget went unpunished a few months ago. But in April a leading journalist, Ali Lmrabet, was fined and banned from practising his trade; his mistake was to mock the official line that refugees who fled Morocco's annexation of Western Sahara in 1976 are being held prisoner by the Algerian-backed Polisario Front.

On the Sahara, Mohammed has shown that he is not prepared to break with his father's nationalist legacy, so UN plans for a referendum have run into the desert sand. Media exposure of corrupt officials, including some allegedly involved in sex tourism, has also brought retribution, according to the watchdog Reporters Without Borders.

Tetchiness about the press sits awkwardly with a remarkable experiment, unique in the Arab world, that is designed to allow Moroccans to come to terms with the bad times under Hassan II.

The truth and reconciliation commission (l'Instance Equité et Réconciliation, or IER) has been at work for more than a year investigating the secret prisons, disappearances and torture that were the fate of many of those - Marxists, dissident military men and Islamists - who challenged the regime, then, as now, a loyal ally of France and the US.

Some high-profile cases are already well documented, such as the fate of the family of General Mohammed Oufkir, the security chief who plotted against the king in the 1970s, and the abduction and murder of Mehdi Ben-Barka, the leftwing opposition leader. Now, though, after a series of emotional public meetings where some of the thousands of ordinary victims have told their tales, the silence is being broken.

The downside is that the work of the IER is limited to cataloguing crimes, compensating relatives and recommending how such abuses can be avoided in future. Guilty men are being named but not called to account. The IER's mandate has been extended for a few months, but expectations for tackling impunity are low.

This is a far bigger issue than how the palace responds to revelations about the private lives of the royals - which do not appear to involve the sort of problems Posh and Becks suffer from. Morocco has started to reveal some of the skeletons in its national cupboard. It needs to punish those who put them there and give the skeletons a decent burial before it can move on to a democratic future.

Ian Black Monday May 2, 2005
The Guardian

carlota 07-05-2005 07:37 PM

"But King Mohammed VI has threatened dire consequences for a Rabat newspaper that portrayed his wife, Princess Lalla Salma, roaming barefoot in the palace, bossing the servants, enjoying carrot tagine and playing with the royal heir "

dont understand what s wrong about playing with her son...

its nice to see her as we barely do...

Monalisa 07-05-2005 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlota
"But King Mohammed VI has threatened dire consequences for a Rabat newspaper that portrayed his wife, Princess Lalla Salma, roaming barefoot in the palace, bossing the servants, enjoying carrot tagine and playing with the royal heir "

dont understand what s wrong about playing with her son...

its nice to see her as we barely do...

There's nothing wrong with that,but the moroccan royalty is a very old one,even older than the Windsor british house,and they have a heavy protocol,so they aren't used to see their intimity displayed in gossips magazines with a "hello and hola style";),if you see what I mean!;)

Anyway,although the royal house had showen that they dislike,but till now,they can't do anything against those moroccan independant papers and magazines,which I see as premices of democraty,they still talk about the personal life of the MRF and critisized many time the king,thing which you can't see in other ME royalties who are very strict towards people who critisize the monarch and punish them !;) :cool:

isis 12-12-2005 07:11 AM

I translate this article of « le journal-hebdo » about the cover of « Match du monde » about Moroccoof Amar Ali Peopolisation " side Court The Sahara is (once again) in effervescence under the standard of the irrédentistes, in Talsint and, for lack of “derrick”, the forgotten of the useless Morocco, parody to their manner the "rabble” of French suburbs. The justice of slaughtering, against the independent press confirms the ashamed place of kingdom in the world barometer of the freedom of speech of RSF, and Morocco caracoles more than ever at the head of the most corrupt countries. Nevertheless, only one thing seems to have kept the attention of the Moroccans " pressivores " this week: The number of " Match du Monde " dedicated to Morocco, a " special " edition derivative product of " Paris Match ", specialist of the " covers " dedicated to the only spangled, often ephemeral, and crowned heads without real sovereignty. A rare photo in duplicate page will keep all attentions, it must to say, that it has what to titillate all curiosities. The cliché shows, the intimate circle of the reigning family version 2005. Those that auscultated it under all its sewings will gloss about the noticed absence of the red Prince and his progeny, and of the one of the sovereign's mother, of which the last and furtive public apparition dates of a royal marriage under Hassan II. The national press made itself the echo of that, to minima, miming " Match du Monde " with a contained reserve. Astonishing " peopolisation " of the absolute power, that accept this contrite "thinning out of leaves" exercise, under the photographer's esthete eye coming from France, and that fulminates when a local newspaper of less brilliant paper, tries itself to the exercise. We will remind the raging missive of the cerberus of the royal protocol to the insolent Moroccan publisher who had the presumptuousness to reveal the culinary original sins of the first lady of kingdom. The subjects of His Majesty, can pay to the strong price a magazine, for which was open the doors of the palace openly, but are call to the order when they tempt to engulf themselves in the open breach of the high life of the arcanums of the Makhzen. Funny democracy to "variable geometry", that is marketed with wish for the foreign on airs of Zadig, but that, severely repressed for the national, because of almost divine sacredness , especially when they approach thematic a lot more serious. Result, they muzzle who promise the debate, and allowing, embarrassing swerve, like the one, recent, of this newspaper that has just proposed to its readers an enticing diving in the" harem of the sultans" The " peopolisation " of the regime is, in spite of its outdated character, a barometer of its capacity to open up, maybe more meaningful than all indications of political liberalization. its hypertrophy compared to the inefficience chronic of the institutions is a sign that doesn't deceive. Really, it must to yield to the facts: the democratic transition of which everybody strives to look for the weak demonstrations is a chimera; so much the evidence of its non-existence is in still-life deception. its architects, a handful of emblematic faces of the new era - Buddies of childhood of the forbidden City and rallied of the last hour - constitute a mad harnessing that takes its carriage toward the precipice. And the illustrations of this wild race abound. What is therefore this country of which the most influential minister of the affairs of the state who, moreover, has his suzerain's attentive ear, calls, bosses of press one by one so meanly submissive, to oblige them to produce, almost under the dictation, avenging, untrue articles and filled of insanities against other publications to the bothersome emancipation when these dare the contradiction? For a lot of sincere people, this country can't be Morocco. Impossible, they will say, these feudal practicals have been buried one day of July 1999. Unfortunately, this Morocco of which they boasts with pride, and often with patriotism, actually exist only, in the small propaganda of its leaders. Because so such was the case, why would they have need to pay out astronomical amounts to foreign publications for regild their blazon? if not, why a " democracy " as the one of Morocco would have to ape dictatorships of equatorial Guinea, Gabon or Rwanda while passing to the chest, to have good press in magazines of credibility on hedgehopping? With that, a " Match of the World " on the fairyland of the most beautiful country of the world can only fall of your hands. Especially when it is dedicated of this kind to the fiftieth anniversary of the independence.

isis 12-12-2005 07:33 AM

http://www.telquel-online.com/202/co...re_202_1.shtml
This is a dossier of magazine telquel about MRF in media

Veram98 04-10-2006 02:25 PM

In his father's shadow
 
Morocco's faltering transition to democracy under King Mohammed VI

Apr 6th 2006 | CASABLANCA AND RABAT
From The Economist print edition

FOR visitors to Morocco's twin capitals—one political, the other economic—it is hard not to think that they represent the exception to the political decrepitude that seems to plague the Arab world. The bright mimosas and bougainvilleas of Rabat and the bustling business centre of Casablanca form a striking contrast with the dreary shabbiness and laissez-aller encountered elsewhere in the region. So does the political atmosphere: where else do truth and reconciliation commissions discuss torture cases on public television, or newspapers publish critiques of a head of state along with details of his private finances, or women live (at least on paper) under a more progressive family law?
“Morocco is advancing at a slow pace, but it will get there in time,” says one Western diplomat. “It's a model for reform—the best we have in a bad neighbourhood.”
For most Moroccans though, the point of reference is not Algeria's brutal military oligarchy or Tunisia's police state. It is not even “les années de plomb” (the years of lead) of the 1970s and 80s when political repression in Morocco was at its fiercest. Rather, it is the expectation of democratic transition first promised by the late king, Hassan II, in the early 1990s and reinforced by Mohammed VI's accession to the throne in 1999. But, despite some important milestones, Moroccans remain dissatisfied. For some, the country is democratising too fast, straight into the hands of Islamists eager to impose a reactionary moral order. For others, a cabal of former royal schoolmates in key public posts is simply exploiting Morocco's slowly liberalising economy for their own ends ...

http://www.economist.com/world/afric...ory_id=6772296

Amira 04-15-2006 03:14 PM

I found this article (in French) in the Moroccan newspaper Maroc Hebdo.

TRANSLATION by Amira :)
By one day sunny of at the end of March, a young man of about thirty years makes his jogging on the cornice of Casablanca. Blown, it stops to be refreshed. Whereas it sprinkles water, convertible black slows down on its level and is immobilized. The driver, with sunglasses, asks to him whether all is well. When the young person jogger is turned over to answer by the affirmative, it discovers, with its great surprise, that its interlocutor is not other than King Mohammed VI. Not knowing what to do nor what to say, it stammers some words to enquérir news of the Crown prince, Moulay Hassan. Before starting again, King Mohammed VI answers him that it goes as a charm. Spent the time of the surprise, this young man, computer graphics expert of his state, hastens to tell with its entourage his unexpected meeting with the King of Morocco. Since, the news was spread like a powder trail. Is this a hoax, a sight of the spirit or a reality? No one could not say it. Similar anecdotes always accompanied the reign by a Commander by Believing. The history of fire Mohammed V making her races itself or that of outgoing Hassan II incognito in the street testify some. These stories rock the imaginary popular one and become, with time, of the undeniable truths. Until today, Rabat had exclusiveness in it, but, with the multiple stays of the King in Casablanca, the economic capital is put at it too. A thing is sure. The Casablancais young people dream all to make, one day, the same meeting as this computer graphics expert. The hope remains allowed. King Mohammed VI does not hesitate to furrow the broad boulevards of the métropôle and to even venture in infernal stoppers. At the wheel of its BMW sport, without brought closer safety, it respects the road panels and the speed limits. The traffic policemen are amazed in front of as much good citizenship. "Never yet seen in the history of Morocco, SM King Mohammed VI stops with the red light and mark the stop, exclaims a police officer. Proof that no one is not above the law. The Sovereign gives the good example." The accident of King Mohammed VI, then adolescent, on the road of Skhirat is always in the spirits. The dispatch of the Arab Agency the Maghreb Press (MAP) announcing the withdrawal of its licence for excess speed on order of fire Hassan II too. Today, this mishap is only one bad memory. A question is essential: where can the King go when it does not work? When he was a Crown prince, he liked Casablanca for his good tables, his animated discotheques and his sports halls. Happy night birds still praise themselves to have attended the same places as Mohammed VI. Black House, the night club of Hyatt Regency, or Olivia Valère, of Riad Salam, had the privilege to accomodate it. Its appearances even made the reputations of these establishments. After the visits of the Crown prince, their customers have triplet, even quadrupled. Obviously, today, from his functions, King Mohammed VI does not attend any more this kind of places. But it therefore did not give up of it some of its practices of antan. The sport is an example. The inhabitants of the Maârif district, in Casablanca, remember its many passages to the room of re-arrangement in the shopping centre Benomar. King Mohammed VI is also a follower of the sports in the open air. Each morning, it makes lengths in its swimming pool or a course of Golf to the club of Anfa. But, the sport that it affectionne over all, it is the Jet Ski This discipline nautical, since its establishment in 1999, makes considerable great strides. Like the golf of the time of Hassan II. Except that, there, difficult for its courtiers to follow it. The muscular breadth of Mohammed VI does not leave any doubt. Its given step does not mislead either. The King is a large sportsman. At the time of official inaugurations or ceremonies, its collaborator close relations have evil to walk at its rate/rhythm. While speaking about his collaborators, one tells that King Mohammed VI does not mix occupations and personal life. It is not kind to be surrounded of a court. It does not maintain with his collaborators the friendly relations. The completed work, they lay out. If it needs them, it them joint by telephone. King Mohammed VI likes to spare a certain margin of intimacy. Moreover, the palates are more of the places of work than places of dwelling. With these immense jewels of Moroccan architecture, it prefers roomy villas. In Casablanca, after the end of its official activities of the day, it is withdrawn in its private residence of the district of Anfa. To the French magazine Paris Match, King Mohammed VI entrusted that it is implied in the education of his son, Moulay Hassan, and that it devotes time to him that it is necessary. The proof by the image. At the time of the commemoration of the 50ème birthday of the festival of Independence, November 16, 2005, guests come from the whole world were the eyewitnesses of the close connection linking the Crown prince with his father. In his spare times, King Mohammed VI also devotes himself to the reading. He is not satisfied with the press review that one subjects to him, he traverses itself the national and international newspapers. The matches of football are its favorite televised programs. The royal entourage is often taken of runs by its unexpected escapades. It takes its 4x4 and only launches out towards known destinations of him. What does not fail each time to throw into a panic its brought closer guard. The least which one can say, the stays of King Mohammed VI in Casablanca is very appreciated population. Except the few nuisances due to the blocking of circulation at the time of the passage of the official royal procession, Casablancais are delighted by its presence. Because they know that, the time of its stay, their city finds a glare without precedent. The enormous cracks on the roadway disappear, the parks flower and the streets are protected and cleaner. This temporary embellishment does not mislead King Mohammed VI, since it is said that it circulates in the most underprivileged districts of Casablanca to note visu the inventory of fixtures. There still, it is undoubtedly the legend which is let go. But, the visit surprised in the buildings of the Orphanage of Aïn Chock, 3 April 2005, famous although King Mohammed VI is close to his people. Its approach is very human. The images of each official exit show that the King Mohammed VI affectionne the walkabouts and does not limit himself to make visits flashes in the hospitals or the reformatories, but discusses with the patients and the boarders. This image of a young hard-working and open Sovereign feeds the legends more and more. Not only in Casablanca or Rabat. At the time of his last visit with Laâyoune, one tells that three young men were approached by the King at the wheel of his car. It asked them their national charts, only one had it on him. A few days after, this young unemployed graduate was named at an administrative station. Is it then astonishing of saying that Mohammed VI is the King of the hope, before being that of the poor?

clymène 04-15-2006 06:03 PM

Amira could you give us the link in french please...I'll understand it better... Thanks!

Amira 04-15-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by clymène
Amira could you give us the link in french please...I'll understand it better... Thanks!

sorry about the translation , go to http://www.maroc-hebdo.press.ma , Archives then choose the Semaine du 7 au 13 Avril 2006

isis 04-16-2006 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Amira
sorry about the translation , go to http://www.maroc-hebdo.press.ma , Archives then choose the Semaine du 7 au 13 Avril 2006

maroc-hebdo is a magazine nery near to the palace, it never criticize the king or the royal family, as do it le journal-hebdo or telquel for example, always when it make articles about the MRF, its articles are a panegyric;)

clymène 05-30-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by isis
maroc-hebdo is a magazine nery near to the palace, it never criticize the king or the royal family, as do it le journal-hebdo or telquel for example, always when it make articles about the MRF, its articles are a panegyric;)

Isis, I read this article. What you said about the magazine maroc-hebdo is absolutely true. But for once this article contains some good and true statements, except (maybe) for the last few lines. Believe me I was born in Casablanca and grew up there. The king is known for all these things.

spectrafly 07-04-2006 07:15 AM

hello everybody i have a surprise for you.i'm so happy because i bought 2 magazines "tel quel and diplomatica" it's about lalla salma i've scaned the articles so enjoy your selves.(bad english i know :D )

SAR la Princesse Lalla Salma préside à Rabat un dîner de bienfaisance :
it's an old event but no one has sent a photo of lalla salma during this gala dinner

http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php...9_lastscan.jpg

i'v posted this one just to show what she has wore in this event:
"SAR la Princesse Lalla Salma, présidente de l'"Association Lalla Salma de lutte contre le Cancer'' inaugure la première unité de greffe de la moelle pour enfants et adultes au Maroc au service d'hématologie et oncologie pédiatrique relevant de l'hôpital 20 Août du CHU de Casablanca."

http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?...ge=95733_3.jpg

again in the gala dinner but remarque in this foto,her sister is sit in at the same table of lalla salma she's in the right of the photo and she wore a black caftan this about the first one in the right and after her there is two ladies and then lalla salma

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a third foto at the gala dinner

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this is the article in tel quel it's about lalla salma there is a new information about her caracter and what she did at the palace it's about 10 pages just for her::) it's a new article it appears this week.
i'm going to scan all the pages and put them in order and read the articleand then we will discuss.

this all the article dedicated to lalla salma by the morocan magazine tel quel:
in the cover:
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page1:
http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php...48_p1_21lo.jpg
page2:
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?...8_p2_283lo.jpg
page3:
http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php...8_p3_102lo.jpg
page4:
http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php...7_p4_252lo.jpg
page5:
http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php...17_p5_78lo.jpg
page6:
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?...0_p6_220lo.jpg
page7:
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?...6_p7_174lo.jpg
page8:
http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php...7_p8_230lo.jpg
page9:
http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php...1_p9_249lo.jpg
page10:
http://img102.imagevenue.com/img.php..._p10_179lo.jpg

so tell me your opinion when you'll read the article :)

samia 07-04-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrafly
again in the gala dinner but remarque in this foto,her sister is sit in at the same table of lalla salma she's in the right of the photo and she wore a black caftan this about the first one in the right and after her there is two ladies and then lalla salma




she imposes her family in social activities, her sister at this dinner, and her uncle is a member of her saaociation
she want that her family benefit if big advantages, it's a shame:mad:

clymène 07-04-2006 03:25 PM

Samia I think you're pushing it too far!!!

She has the perfect right to work with members of her own family. You just want to criticise for criticising!!!!! ANd these two members of her family are doctors that's why they are involved in what she is working for with her association. And to top all that she's working with a lot of people and only two members of her family.

Secondly, tel quel is very well known for criticising the royal family when they think there's something wrong with it. Everyone knows in morocco that it is a very good newspaper. One of the only ones that doen't always praise the royal family.

Amira 07-05-2006 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by clymène
Samia I think you're pushing it too far!!!

She has the perfect right to work with members of her own family. You just want to criticise for criticising!!!!! ANd these two members of her family are doctors that's why they are involved in what she is working for with her association. And to top all that she's working with a lot of people and only two members of her family.

Secondly, tel quel is very well known for criticising the royal family when they think there's something wrong with it. Everyone knows in morocco that it is a very good newspaper. One of the only ones that doen't always praise the royal family.

well said and that is true , her sister is a doctor ...

clymène 07-05-2006 02:55 AM

Both her sister and her uncle are doctors.

Times2222 07-08-2006 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
Personally, I find the article of telquel interesting, the journalist was enough critical
It isn't common to read in a Moroccan newspaper that Lalla Salma was a shy numb (une godiche timide), and it isn't common to read that her look wasn't nice
It’s confirm what I always said about the lack of taste of this princess and also about her way to be in public that isn't at all elegant (for what I saw several times on TV, and the last one was in Thailand)
It’s regrettable that the laws in Morocco are very hard against the journalists who want to say all the truth (the site of “reporters without borders” is eloquent about the lot of who passes the limits imposed by the power), because I think that this journalist would be able to say more about Lalla Salma
she could say that in spite of the relooking, often she is doing errors of taste, the last one was at the charity dinner, her earrings didn’t suit what she wore in first, and didn’t suit her at all in second (because she has a long face), and at the welcome of the Chinese president, her hairs were in a pitiful condition, about her way to be, she still, passes to an extreme at other (passive, then overexcited), she don't know yet, how to make a conversation
about her social activities, the journalist say that the king requested the most important businessmen of Morocco, to make that the "lalla salma association" will be a success, and the last episode of this farce, is that she was appointed as ambassador of the OMS of the area of oriental Mediterranean
As said the magazine, the palace wants, to built an image for lalla salma, she is a passive lady, then, now she must appear as a hard working lady and all the means are used for built this image, it must to be a very naïve person to believe at this swindle

Rosa, I must respectively disagree with you. A "lazy" and passive person would not graduate valedictorian of her Math and Computer Science curriculum in a male oriented culture. Lalla Salma and her sister both were excellent students, and accomplished. It is natural that they would have the ability to help steer a cancer foundation. You cannot be stupid and graduate at the top of your class at an elite school. You don't like her I get that. She may even be shy and lack self confidence but lazy, passive and a farce, I respectively disagree.

Warren 07-09-2006 09:11 AM

When judgements of a person are based on something as ridiculous and trivial as earrings (of all things!) there is very little scope for reasoned or intelligent discussion.

sabiha 07-09-2006 01:42 PM

I think that Rosa did a good analysis, the palace know that the picture of lalla salma isn't very attractive, she appears clumsy in public, her look wasn't elegant, she did big mistakes of taste,
She appears as a kind girl, but none admired her
The palace had to change that, and build her another picture more pleasant
In spite of the fact that lalla salma don't like the way to communicate of queen Rania, the palace want to make her the same image, but the results can't be the same, because the two ladies are very different, queen rania is a very confident lady, perhaps she don't make the unanimity around her, but none can deny that she is a very good communicating lady (I saw her several times on TV, she has a big self-confidence and she express very clearly her ideas)
I don't think that Lalla Salma can follow the same way, not because she don't want that, or the palace don't want (they know that it would be a very good publicity for Morocco in foreigner to have a queen as rania, especially in our time, where unfortunately, Muslims hasn't a nice image), but because, she hasn't the personality for that, for who saw her on TV, (in Thailand for example, or in New York), it's obvious that, she has difficulties to communicate in big events, its seems that she has the same problem that her husband who isn’t a good communicating man (magazine Tel Quel made a good article about that this year, and foreigners journalists also mention that)
I don't want to be hard, but I think that she is a little jealous of the success of queen rania, and she hides herself behind her role of mother and wife

clymène 07-09-2006 04:52 PM

I think something here is reeaally misunderstood.

The palace doesn't think that lalla salma isn't attractive or so. They believe the absolute contrary. But the palace is behaving with very much moderation with this image. She is not the one who decides. The palace do decide. And she can hardly speak. The palace surely doesn't want her to overshadow her husband the king. That's all. They use her image to communicate, but don't want her to appear more than her husband.

What was said in this article about salma's opinion on rania was not expressed by salma herself but by a relative of salma. I'm not certain it is reliable one hundred per cent.

But she's come a looonng way. And that 's something the article mentions but everyone or almost everyone here didn't notice that. It's not easy for her to be the one everyone here would like her to be. The moroccan makhzen is a strong and powerful machine that you just can't overcome like that. The other princesses (and that's what the article says) don't want her to be in the front line, because she would be overshadowing them. I don't believe that the king's sisters are as well educated as many of you here believe or want to believe, it's not because they look elegant in pictures that they're so much concerned about their role model, or the moroccan people. They have very bad manners and salma has been going through very bad times at the begining because she didn't get on well with them.

And as far as Jordan is concerned don't forget that's it's a very old tradition in this country to have queens. All king hussein's wives were allowed to play on their image, to appear and have a role model, to give interviews, to travel the world, to give speeches. Rania came, okay she's a great queen, she's doing such such a great job, but she didn't have to beat her way through a crowd of princesses pretending or hoping to become first ladies. She didn't have to conquest her place as a woman. She WAS the queen. A proeminent feminine figure was all that could be normal. But not in Morocco.

And what did you see of salma on tv? Something like 30 or 40 seconds of her walking, talking or smiling. You didn't even hear what she was saying or what she has to say. Come on!!! You can't compare that to rania's interviews with oprah or any other tv or press journalist!

salmiya 07-09-2006 08:25 PM

i just want to tell you don't trust every thing you hear or learnd about princess Salma , and i can assure you that the other princess doesn't have any relation with her since she introduced the royal family .

zineb 07-10-2006 01:06 PM

the article of telquel seems like a resume of salma threads in this forum :)
the most prominent magazine for moroccans base its article on hearings. but i understand the poor journalist can’t expect to interview a member of royal family who lack transparency and who are happy how they control the media.

concerning salma and other princesses. if salma is really intelligent, she doesn’t have to overcome her sisters-in-law. each has his own position.
imo salma didn’t success to overcome her sisters-in-law, that’s why she looked somewhere else, and she overcomes and quickly took the step on other cancer associations :confused: :(
the article says ''the palace has associates the persons in charge of these associations to the princess ONG. to assure itself a wide collaboration, but also to avoid all rivalry''
avoid rivalry reflect a dictatorship behaviour of the princess.
it’s far to believe salma is an angel. the article says she controls palace servants and spending. she prefers to give palace old stuff to her family than to servants. ok the princess loves to control what she owns, but does she and her husband control well BIG SPENDING and let moroccan control what themselves they spend :rolleyes:

rosa 10-15-2006 08:51 AM

Personally, I read in "Le Monde ", that her mother family "Bensouda" is very close to the royal family, one of her cousin made his studies with M6 (in the royal college), and her uncle was his private doctor
I read also in Spanish newspaper (I don't remember if it was "El Mundo" or "El Pais") that she is very good friend with the better M6' friend "El Himma" (who is now Home secretary of state), and that it's this man (who has a big influence on the king) who pushed him to marry with her
Certainly, none of us can say if there is, or no, love between M6 and Salma
But what is certain, is that the Cinderella’s history that was sold at the magazines doesn't correspond with the reality

shrifia 10-15-2006 08:59 AM

I read the same articl(in arabic someweher I'll find the link) about friendship between lalla salma and El Himma in wish I understand that this relation Came after her marriage not before.

shrifia 10-15-2006 09:26 AM

this subject take more than his size, there is the The official version,what The journalists Writes and what other people say(a daughter of an ex-minister told us that m6 and salma where very good friend before there marriage nothing about the meeting..)so we'll never know what's the truth.I agree with Little_star it doesn't really matter how they meet there is a big love story wich finished very badly..even I still think that it's hard to belive that's a king who Refused Tradition wich the king must Marries after After one day from his father death in 1999 will Surrenders easily and let the other Determines the date of His marriage in 2002 and Choice of the bride???!!!!

rosa 10-15-2006 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by shrifia
I read the same articl(in arabic someweher I'll find the link) about friendship between lalla salma and El Himma in wish I understand that this relation Came after her marriage not before.

in the spanish newspaper, I read that he hepled her to marry the king

shrifia 10-15-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa
the spanish newspaper say that they were friends before, and that he helped her to marry the king

sorry rosa mybye my arabic is bad too:smile:
why you talk about help her to marry him,influenceing him,Presenting some girls to him for The choice....it's not a child comme meme it's an absolut king in morocco,who have all the power and who Decides for all the moroccans and you (not only you rosa) let the thing Appears just like he can Decides in his own marriage.

rosa 10-15-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shrifia
this subject take more than his size, there is the The official version,what The journalists Writes and what other people say(a daughter of an ex-minister told us that m6 and salma where very good friend before there marriage nothing about the meeting..)so we'll never know what's the truth.I agree with Little_star it doesn't really matter how they meet there is a big love story wich finished very badly..even I still think that it's hard to belive that's a king who Refused Tradition wich the king must Marries after After one day from his father death in 1999 will Surrenders easily and let the other Determines the date of His marriage in 2002 and Choice of the bride???!!!!

because of the politic, if he married a day after his father death, he would appear as a very traditional man, but with the cendrilla history that was invented by the palace, he appeared at foreigners as a modern man

rosa 10-15-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shrifia
sorry rosa mybye my arabic is bad too:smile:
why you talk about help her to marry him,influenceing him,Presenting some girls to him for The choice....it's not a child comme meme it's an absolut king in morocco,who have all the power and who Decides for all the moroccans and you (not only you rosa) let the thing Appears just like he can Decides in his own marriage.

certainely, he can't decide alone, because he is the king and a king who has a political role (not a protcoolar role like in europe)all what he do has a political connotation

rosa 10-16-2006 10:51 AM

I will continue the discussion about the encounter of M6 and Salma here, (I think that this thread is more appropriate), and I want to answer at shrifia who said me
"I think that the only things that will help him to look modern at foreigners state it's his workand let some of his absolute authority to The government and the parliament not his love story and marriage people are not stupid Especially outside"
I agree with you shrifia, for me also, it's what he is doing in the politician matter, that is interesting, but it seems that it's isn't the way to think of the king and his advisers
do you remark that the palace communication always go by people magazine as "Paris Match", and very rarely by serious newspapers, for example, for the commemoration of the very important date of the 50th years on independence the palace choose "paris match" to make a dossier, instead of that king give an interview at important newspapers like "le journal-hebdo" in Morocco, or "Le figaro" or "Le Monde" in France
I think that it's a proof of the way to think of the king and his advisers; they think that people are more interested by the "glamourous" than the serious things

shrifia 10-16-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa
I will continue the discussion about the encounter of M6 and Salma here, (I think that this thread is more appropriate), and I want to answer at shrifia who said me
"I think that the only things that will help him to look modern at foreigners state it's his workand let some of his absolute authority to The government and the parliament not his love story and marriage people are not stupid Especially outside"
I agree with you shrifia, for me also, it's what he is doing in the politician matter, that is interesting, but it seems that it's isn't the way to think of the king and his advisers
do you remark that the palace communication always go by people magazine as "Paris Match", and very rarely by serious newspapers, for example, for the commemoration of the very important date of the 50th years on independence the palace choose "paris match" to make a dossier, instead of that king give an interview at important newspapers like "le journal-hebdo" in Morocco, or "Le figaro" or "Le Monde" in France
I think that it's a proof of the way to think of the king and his advisers; they think that people are more interested by the "glamourous" than the serious things

I agree with you rosa in one thing that he always (his familly too) gives interview to foreigners newspapers not the national one you have good eys;) .but if we Calculate those time wich m6 give them (paris match,el pais,time..)interviews, I think it's very few time (his son' Birthday,the 50th years on independence...and some very few other even).I agree that he think that some people are more interested by the glamourous(who Measures The modernization by what elegant the first lady or other royal ladys). all royal familly Around the the world Without exclusion think in the same way.but Seriously I don't think that this familly are very fan of The lights and The cameras even when a member of them do some public work the only picture we get it from map and Mostly one pic and Rarely we find The foreign agencies like getty images Covers(exept state visits and some very few event) the even not like other royal familly who are In all times Pursue by army of photographed.so we can't say that they only care about geving ppl glamourous thing more than the serious one.

rosa 10-17-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shrifia
I agree with you rosa in one thing that he always (his familly too) gives interview to foreigners newspapers not the national one you have good eys;) .but if we Calculate those time wich m6 give them (paris match,el pais,time..)interviews, I think it's very few time (his son' Birthday,the 50th years on independence...and some very few other even).I agree that he think that some people are more interested by the glamourous(who Measures The modernization by what elegant the first lady or other royal ladys). all royal familly Around the the world Without exclusion think in the same way.but Seriously I don't think that this familly are very fan of The lights and The cameras even when a member of them do some public work the only picture we get it from map and Mostly one pic and Rarely we find The foreign agencies like getty images Covers(exept state visits and some very few event) the even not like other royal familly who are In all times Pursue by army of photographed.so we can't say that they only care about geving ppl glamourous thing more than the serious one.


I don't say that this family is interested to be under the light, but that, for the king and his advisers glamorous communication is the most effective, for me, when a state man choose a people magazine, to make a dossier about a very important celebration for his country (50th anniversary of the independence), that mean, that for him, and for who surround him, this way is the most effective
And I think that, it's for that, they invented the fairy tale about the marriage of the king, to build the image of the "king of the poor", who choose a "people’s girl" to be the first lady

ikram 10-17-2006 04:11 PM

it is necessary to replace the things in the context, Miss, all was made quickly, catastrophe before the publication of the book of TUQUOI, then......
M6, did not have more father, who had carried before his death his preference on a girl of minister and finally to mark the blow and to make a media blow, large a scoop.....he wanted a girl which did not form part of the royal family...... and M6 did not attend ANY girl (of the people, very short people besides) in Morocco...
and to marry with a girl of its family, would have done nothing but amplify the rumours on his private life
Have you ever seen the infrastructre of safety have already which surrounds the king at the time of his déplacments???
you really believe that it would have been has a party, like does it Felipe of Spain, to meet a girl, to chatter with her to give him appointment etc??????? , PLease let's be serious we are in Morocco, and he needed "a pure pearl" like called she was namd by the palace at the time of her marriage

zineb 10-17-2006 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ikram
it is necessary to replace the things in the context, Miss, all was made quickly, catastrophe before the publication of the book of TUQUOI, then......
M6, did not have more father, who had carried before his death his preference on a girl of minister and finally to mark the blow and to make a media blow, large a scoop.....he wanted a girl which did not form part of the royal family...... and M6 did not attend ANY girl (of the people, very short people besides) in Morocco...
and to marry with a girl of its family, would have done nothing but amplify the rumours on his private life
Have you ever seen the infrastructre of safety have already which surrounds the king at the time of his déplacments???
you really believe that it would have been has a party, like does it Felipe of Spain, to meet a girl, to chatter with her to give him appointment etc??????? , PLease let's be serious we are in Morocco, and he needed "a pure pearl" like called she was namd by the palace at the time of her marriage

i ager with u ikram. according to spanish media, m6 were dating girls b4 salma. and salma for 2 years.
if wasn't salma, ''pure pearl'' could be any girl choosed by the palace :wacko:

rosa 11-18-2006 10:21 AM

I read this article in the spanish newspaper "El Mundo", and it seems me incredible
this is the link
http://www.elmundo.es/papel/2006/07/...impresora.html

clymène 05-08-2007 05:26 AM

There's an excellent article (in french) in Tel quel magazine about the relation ship of the late prince moulay abdallah, with his brother the late king hassan 2.
TelQuel : Le Maroc tel qu'il est
clic on archives and go to number 271
Then click on the picture itself

Mademoiselle Lilo 04-05-2008 04:22 PM

a friend send me this article about Lalla Salma and QRania and as my spanish is so bad i was wondering if someone her can translate;)
the article: Rania vs. Salma: rivales de elegancia :: Nobleza :: esmas.com

morgeanne 04-06-2008 01:39 PM

you can use google translator to translate the site from spanish to english. i often use this tool.:flowers:

Little_star 04-06-2008 02:30 PM

They are beautiful, young, modern and fortunes in clothes of designers and models of haute are spent couture. And with a chic image and very in fashion, queen Rania of Jordan and princess Lalla Salma of Morocco, represent with much elegance the reigns of the countries headed by their husbands, and have fascinated to all with their style and beauty
AltaVista - Babel Fish Translation

I haven't posted the entire article for copyright reasons but just click on the link.

Mademoiselle Lilo 04-07-2008 09:20 AM

thanks girls for the suggestions:flowers::flowers:
i thought it's an intesting article but seems just another silly comparison.

Mademoiselle Lilo 04-12-2008 12:29 PM

a small new about Lalla Salma in moroccan magazine: TelQuel : Le Maroc tel qu'il est
go to VITES ! in the end of the page.
' L’épouse de Mohammed VI a pris, le week-end dernier, l’avion pour New York sur la ligne régulière de la RAM. Non pas dans un boeing affrété pour elle, mais avec le “petit peuple” de la première classe, le prince héritier dans les bras. Discrète ou presque : six berlines Mercedes ont accompagné Lalla Salma jusqu'à la passerelle d’embarquement.'

they said har the princess take the airplane last week-end to New York with normal poeple on plane aparantely she buy her ticket from RAM (Royal Air Maroc) like all peole do and she didn't use her husband jet. some who notice her on plane say he tried to be discreet with he son moulay hassan in her arms.

shrifia 07-23-2008 01:54 PM

Feminise the face of Islam
The king of Morocco knows women can lead the way in moderating the messages of Islam. Britain should adopt his approach.....Full article

Mademoiselle Lilo 07-28-2008 03:41 PM

Washington Times - CHARAI: Morocco: Splits and burdens
When, against a background of growing conservatism, notably religious Mohammed VI succeeded his father Hassan II as king of Morocco on July 23, 1999, he set his sights on democracy and modernity. Nine years later, it is worthy noting that this dichotomy between the old and the new still exists as the king breaks with the past.

Mademoiselle Lilo 07-29-2008 04:17 PM

L'Économiste
translation via google
9-year reign
Lalla Salma: The Ambassador of Morocco

The princess increasingly present in international
Many actions pro-poor
THE charming smile Lalla Salma is not the only asset of the first lady of Morocco. A charming addition to its effective participation in the Moroccan public life, reflects a real political progress.
Inside as outside the country, the princess has a high esteem. Ambassador of Morocco abroad, its missions and commitments offer a new model of sovereignty to break with the past. The role of women in the lives of Moroccans took a new turn. And Lalla Salma announced the beginning of major changes. Besides legal reforms that have given rise to the Moudawana part of this process.
A grown woman who speaks several languages, holds a diploma in computer science State, Lalla Salma vehicle modernity without breaking with tradition. The wife of King never obtain the title of Queen, princess will be as is the custom Alawite.
Particularly popular princess has a genuine appeal for his people. It will play all its qualities to get closer, particularly through social actions targeted. The princess is fighting against cancer beside the sick, which it will provide moral and material support.
Lalla Salma is best known for having revived the national association of support and modernization of hospital equipment to aid cancer. It is reputed to be involved at all levels. It said the rigorous, combining charm and vigour at a time.
The image of Morocco that vehicle bears a name, that of openness. In his public appearances, it is not the role of Honorary Chair. It is also this attitude that it stands out. His presence on the public sphere is real, and its actions. Honorée the title of Royal Highness Princess is discreet but effective. The wife of King is active on several fronts. Its margin of action is widening. It is also why it was proclaimed "young global leader" by the World Economic Forum in 2008. If the marriage of King Mohammed VI looks like a fairy tale, actions by the royal couple have nothing magical result of a genuine desire to change, indeed palpable through various actions, especially for poor.
The charm and the smile of Lalla Salma also operate abroad, where she represented Morocco many times. Apart from his fight against cancer, the princess has been involved in the fight against AIDS during a meeting at the United Nations. From the royal union were born two children but also ambitious modernization projects in Morocco.

Mademoiselle Lilo 09-08-2008 03:02 PM

Article from THE VIEW FROM FEZ
THE VIEW FROM FEZ: Morocco's Princess Lalla Salma
One of the most frequent phrases that our visitors search for is "Princess Lalla Salma". So we decided to bring our favourite photographs from The View from Fez archives and put them all in one place.

shrifia 05-05-2009 07:37 PM

.... Nowadays, King Mohammed and his wife, Lalla Salma Bennadi (who also holds a science degree, specialising in computer science), are the symbols of a young Morocco (more than 50% of the population is under 35 years of age), which wants to see change, without dramatic revolutions but following a path of modernity and certainty....Link

ghizlan2000 06-11-2009 08:09 PM

La Revue du Liban
ENTRETIEN EXCLUSIF DE S.M. MOHAMED VI


shrifia 11-12-2009 01:11 PM

Morocco's 'Mother Teresa' Receives $1 Million Opus Prize for Dedication to Single Mothers & Abandoned Children
"Just after the [Al-Jazeera] interview, His Majesty invited me to the palace and told me not to be discouraged by the threat and that I must 'keep on,'" Aicha recalled during her MACC interview. "He not only gave me a generous check to support the Association, but he gave me a golden key -- a symbolic reminder that it was my duty to 'open the hearts of Moroccans.'"....Link

Kasumi 12-12-2009 03:05 AM

King Mohammed VI is critisized for breaking the human rights in Western Sahara
We will not bow to this Moroccan king - The Guardian

Mademoiselle Lilo 12-16-2009 02:29 PM

Several posts has been removed,this thread is about Articles,Speeches and general informations of the MRF,its not a place to discus Mrs Haidar adventures.
M.Lilo.
Morocco Forum Moderator

shrifia 01-20-2010 02:02 PM

Not so bad for non-Muslims in Morocco
..King Mohammed VI, who ascended to the throne in 1999, made a strategic decision to introduce democratic reforms and restructure the legal system so that Morocco can move toward becoming an inclusive, multi-religious society, one which better adheres to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), which is partly dedicated to progress on religious freedom...
Global Arab Network | Not so bad for non-Muslims in Morocco | Culture

Africa’s First Lady of Style
Meet Princess Lalla Salma of Morocco, (born Salma Bennani on May 10, 1978 in Fez, Morocco) wife of King Mohammed VI of Morocco and the first wife of a Moroccan ruler to have been publicly acknowledged and given a royal title.
Africa’s First Lady of Style… | FashionAfrica.com

Mademoiselle Lilo 07-26-2010 06:13 PM

Being a Paying Guest of the King
Once upon a time there was a young King of Morocco, who was said to be the seventh richest monarch in the world. King Mohammed VI ascended to the throne in 1999, descendant of more than a 1,000 years of sultans but, being a modern man, he drove his own car, championed women's rights and took only one wife.

shrifia 09-18-2010 10:50 PM

North Africa’s Sun King
.... Soon after, King Mohamed VI issued a royal decree making the development of alternative energy one of his top priorities.
He also put a legal framework in place to encourage European investment and has managed to limit instability in a region known for political tumult.....Link

Stay the night: Royal Mansour, Marrakech
Mohammed VI issued an edict for a sumptuous hotel, and lo! It came to pass. Adrian Mourby reports.
Expectations were sky high when the Royal Mansour opened in June. This was King Mohammed VI's pet project; not just the flagship hotel in his attempt to double the number of Morocco's tourist beds, but a showcase for national decorative arts....Article

frank22 01-09-2011 09:31 AM

A spanish woman save the life of prince Mohamed VI when he was a baby, militars wanted to kill him (check the article below)



Artículo sobre la cuidadora espanola que salvó de la muerte al príncipe Mohamed VI cuando los militares marroquíes intentaron matar al Rey Hassan II (see page 2 of the following link):

CRONICA El Mundo 9 Enero 2011 Periodicos españoles en Youkioske.com: Diarios de España

shrifia 01-09-2011 04:24 PM

the link didn't word for me.
anyway I think that happend in Skhirat all Hassan II's children escaped from death that day Hassan II him self escpaed fom death.

kaoutar 01-09-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrifia (Post 1188858)
the link didn't word for me.
anyway I think that happend in Skhirat all Hassan II's children escaped from death that day Hassan II him self escpaed fom death.

It works :)
you should press "pulse para ver la publicacion" :)

frank22 01-10-2011 09:52 AM

"pulse para ver la publicacion" = do "click" with the mouse

shrifia 01-10-2011 08:06 PM

no it work thank you guys.
the pic is wonderful:flowers:


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