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Lalla Meriem 05-07-2004 04:11 PM

I noticed that someone said Caroline stated in her bio that she blames Stephanie for the accident that killed Grace. We all know that Grace had a stroke. If anything the poor management of Grace's life afterward resulted in her actual death. Everyone who knew Grace said how bad she was at driving.

What really surprises me is that I have saw an interview where Caroline blamed her mother for all the mistakes she herself has made. This is the top reason I dislike Caroline. She has an inability to accept responsiblity for her own actions. Anything and everything that has gone wrong in her life is, apparently, the fault of everyone except herself.

This is why it shocks me that people think she should become the next monarch and not Albert. So if she makes a mistake who will she cast the blame on then?

miau 05-19-2004 06:36 AM

This is really off the topic, but I have to say that I was extremely glad to hear Grace was terrible at driving. That means I'm not alone!!! :lol: So, it can be said that there's at least one aspect that I can share with Grace! :lol: :lol:

totally_marianne 06-11-2004 08:11 PM

my reason for disliking princess caroline is... not just the fact that each time she visits nyc... she treats me like a kelly gopher girl... screams, rants & raves... which is sorta normal for nyc... but & also... & this is straight from my dad... & from sherry11's dad 2... who were there in dc at the reagan service...

former first lady nancy reagan invited princess caroline & prince albert 2 the dc service & neither showed!!! they sent a 3 line letter instead!!!

can u believe this??? will they do the same if 1 of their own dies now??? guess so!!!

totally unreal!!!

totally... marianne...
totally outspoken manhattanite!!!

Lalla Meriem 06-12-2004 01:11 AM

Kelly gopher girl?

totally_marianne 06-12-2004 05:56 AM

a kelly girl is a temporary assistant... a gopher is slang for someone you get to go for things... so... a kelly gopher girl is an errand girl...

marianne...

Lalla Meriem 06-12-2004 07:02 AM

I am aware of the Kelly agency and of what a gopher is. It was the reference to the US and Caroline that threw me. You know Grace was a Kelly and they often visit the Kellys in America. I thought you meant a Kelly cousin being used as an errand girl.

Gisele Laetitia 06-15-2004 08:00 AM

Hello Everyone!
Grace and Stefanie's accident, has there ever been an official report, an official cause of , well not death, but what might have caused the accident to happen??
I honestly believe the "theorie" that Grace drove and had a stroke ( There was also a BBC-special about Grace, where they talked about this, not too long ago)...
But I wonder what they might have put in that police-report or what they said to the press at the time...does anyone know about this??

Bye! -x--x--x- :flower:

hrhcp 06-15-2004 12:03 PM

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Lalla Meriem  Posted: May 7th, 2004 - 3:11 pm

I noticed that someone said Caroline stated in her bio that she blames Stephanie for the accident that killed Grace. We all know that Grace had a stroke

"We all know" ..... how do you know, I don't know ...... imho Stephanie was driving or she distracted her mother at the wrong moment. If Stephanie wasn't guilty, i think she would have had a better life ... no divorces, etc, etc, etc ....

Lalla Meriem 06-16-2004 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 15th, 2004 - 11:03 am
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Lalla Meriem*  Posted: May 7th, 2004 - 3:11 pm

I noticed that someone said Caroline stated in her bio that she blames Stephanie for the accident that killed Grace. We all know that Grace had a stroke

"We all know" ..... how do you know, I don't know ...... imho Stephanie was driving or she distracted her mother at the wrong moment. If Stephanie wasn't guilty, i think she would have had a better life ... no divorces, etc, etc, etc ....

Stephanie has only had one divorce not divorces. I cannot imagine what her guilt or lack of has to do with her husband cheating on her (which was the cause of her divorce). If you can explain that I would be curious to know how it worked out that Stephanie and Grace's accident caused her husband's affair.

Grace had a stoke. Many experts (those who know the facts) agree that she had a stroke, and that had she been anywhere other than driving a car she would have almost certainly survived.

Personally, I don't think Stephanie was driving. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. Grace would have wanted Stephanie to be happy no matter what. I think the trama of seeing your mother die in beside you in a car after an argument would have been enough to cause the guilt she has had to live with. She feels guilty, by her own admission, for hurting her mother and arguing in the morning before they left the Roc. That alone would be enough....

I think Stephanie deserves happiness and forgiveness (if it is necessary). It still doesn't change that Caroline is on recored several times stating that Grace is responsible for her mistakes not herself.

Grace 06-17-2004 05:45 AM

Excuse me, why is it such a big deal if Caroline and Albert didn't attend Reagan's funeral? Was there a strong relationship between them I don't know about? Cause if it isn't so I don't find their not attending so terrible...kisses

renats 06-17-2004 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by Lalla Meriem+Jun 16th, 2004 - 9:22 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lalla Meriem &#064; Jun 16th, 2004 - 9:22 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-King Christian@Jun 15th, 2004 - 11:03 am
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Lalla Meriem** Posted: May 7th, 2004 - 3:11 pm

I noticed that someone said Caroline stated in her bio that she blames Stephanie for the accident that killed Grace. We all know that Grace had a stroke

"We all know" ..... how do you know, I don&#39;t know ...... imho Stephanie was driving or she distracted her mother at the wrong moment. If Stephanie wasn&#39;t guilty, i think she would have had a better life ... no divorces, etc, etc, etc ....

Stephanie has only had one divorce not divorces. I cannot imagine what her guilt or lack of has to do with her husband cheating on her (which was the cause of her divorce). If you can explain that I would be curious to know how it worked out that Stephanie and Grace&#39;s accident caused her husband&#39;s affair.

Grace had a stoke. Many experts (those who know the facts) agree that she had a stroke, and that had she been anywhere other than driving a car she would have almost certainly survived.

Personally, I don&#39;t think Stephanie was driving. Honestly, it doesn&#39;t matter to me. Grace would have wanted Stephanie to be happy no matter what. I think the trama of seeing your mother die in beside you in a car after an argument would have been enough to cause the guilt she has had to live with. She feels guilty, by her own admission, for hurting her mother and arguing in the morning before they left the Roc. That alone would be enough....

I think Stephanie deserves happiness and forgiveness (if it is necessary). It still doesn&#39;t change that Caroline is on recored several times stating that Grace is responsible for her mistakes not herself. [/b][/quote]
Totally. If stuff like the divorce is related to a murder, how many people did Caroline kill to have one divorce, her second husband&#39;s death, loosing her hair, her marriage with Ernst, etc? Based on King Christian&#39;s theory, Caroline must be a major serial killer. :lol: :lol:

Of course stephanie feels guilty, everybody that have a heart would. But that doesn&#39;t mean that she&#39;s. I actually believe that they were fighting at the time, but I fought many times with my mother, father and sister driving and all of them are alive. It was a coincidence. Stephanie just had a very bad luck&#33; :(

hrhcp 06-17-2004 11:40 AM

yeah .. that thing about Caroline losing her hair ... if it wasn&#39;t chemo, that caused it then ?

smdouglas 06-18-2004 01:33 PM

The "official" reason (given by the Palace) was that the loss of haur was due to a "nervous disorder" brought on by stress. She had just lost her husband (Casiraghi) and at the time was under enormous personal stresses.

CathyEarnshaw 06-18-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by smdouglas@Jun 18th, 2004 - 12:33 pm
The "official" reason (given by the Palace) was that the loss of haur was due to a "nervous disorder" brought on by stress. She had just lost her husband (Casiraghi) and at the time was under enormous personal stresses.
Caroline&#39;s hair loss was several years after Stefano&#39;s death.

kittencrews 06-18-2004 02:46 PM

I read that her hair loss was do to stress also... I forget which book I read it in but it said she noticed her hair was falling out at an enormous rate so she shaved it off...

smdouglas 06-18-2004 11:49 PM

Marlene -

I stand corrected. Stafano died in 1990. Her hair loss was in 1996.

Still, the press releases did connect her hair loss with stresses in her life.

...Scott

Lalla Meriem 06-20-2004 09:16 AM

There are numerous disorders that can cause hair loss some so simple as a Candida infection (just for example). Grace was prone to balding at times of stress, also. My hair falls out in handfulls when I get stressed or depressed......lucky for me I have super thick fast growing hair.

Remarks about Caroline involved in murders edited out by Mandy

lal 06-20-2004 08:07 PM

From what I understand, the hair loss was due to a condition named Alopecia Areata.


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