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monos26 04-28-2004 01:23 PM

What If: Victoria and Another Heir or Prince
 
If these two marry, who will be Queen (or King) of Sweden?

Dennism 04-28-2004 01:39 PM

Technically, Victoria could still be queen of Sweden. But William would have to give up his claim to the British throne. Now I believe that is a small price to pay. Ha ha ha. But were he not to give up his claim to the British throne then she would have to and then Carl Philip would be the next in line and that would just be very unfortunate for CP.

Alexandria 04-28-2004 01:49 PM

An added factor is religion: One of them would have to convert, especially if Victoria married William, as William would be head of the Church of England, Victoria would have to convert from her Lutheran (?) to Anglican. And of course, vice versa, William would have to covert to Lutheran (?) if he were to marry Victoria.

At any rate, I doubt that this is a relationship that will happen. I don't even think these two individuals have ever met.

Dennism 04-28-2004 01:57 PM

Yes, he would have to convert. I have a question then. Why would she have to convert?
If the provision of him not marrying a Catholic is in place, why would it matter if his bride would have to convert anyway? So I think the future bride of William would not have to convert to Church of England. She just can not be Catholic. That being said. William would have to convert to the Swedish Lutheran Church in order to become a member of the Royal Family.

Alexandria 04-28-2004 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Dennism@Apr 28th, 2004 - 1:57 pm
Yes, he would have to convert. I have a question then. Why would she have to convert?
If the provision of him not marrying a Catholic is in place, why would it matter if his bride would have to convert anyway? So I think the future bride of William would not have to convert to Church of England. She just can not be Catholic. That being said. William would have to convert to the Swedish Lutheran Church in order to become a member of the Royal Family.

Haven't you sort of answered your own question?

... If William can't marry a non-Catholic, period, then he can't marry Victoria of Sweden as she is a Luthern, and hence no issue of whether or not she would need to convert.

Dennism 04-28-2004 02:04 PM

The provision is that he can not marry a Catholic. So I am thinking that this is illogical unless the non-Windsor does not have to convert in which case it is something else.

Alexandria 04-28-2004 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Dennism@Apr 28th, 2004 - 2:04 pm
The provision is that he can not marry a Catholic. So I am thinking that this is illogical unless the non-Windsor does not have to convert in which case it is something else.
I think the provision is that he can not marry someone not of the Anglican faith. A previous discussion here about William's future wife's religion was based on her being Catholic, but not limited to the Catholic faith, simply used as an example.

Dennism 04-28-2004 02:09 PM

O, I thought it was just that she can not be Catholic. Okay. Then well if they were to get married and William would keep his claim then she would have to convert as well.

Poppy 04-29-2004 08:38 AM

Historically princesses from Germany and Scadinavian countries married to Great Britain without problems. Even a Grand Duchess with her Russian Orthodox married to the Windsor family. Anyway, if it was in the very old days, the two kingdoms would join together!! If not, they would come up with an agreetment which says the first child of the marriage would become the heir of this or that kingdom and the second child would become the heir of the other kingdom and would be taken to that kingdom for this many months a year etc.

mixer2002de 06-16-2004 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Dennism@Apr 28th, 2004 - 1:04 pm
The provision is that he can not marry a Catholic. So I am thinking that this is illogical unless the non-Windsor does not have to convert in which case it is something else.
But as a EU State he could go to court and sue Great Britain for this law. And probably would win. As Britain siegned a EU contract! Anyway i think the law just says that he has to have this and that religion, leke it is in Sweden too. But I think you could sue against it and would win!

cut1me 06-17-2004 08:49 AM

any pics of them together

Yennie 06-17-2004 10:55 AM

I think they´ve met only once. Back in 1999 when they both was godparents to the newborn Konstantine of Greece. I think it was in april... I´ll see if I can find any pics from the christening.

Lena 06-17-2004 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Yennie@Jun 17th, 2004 - 3:55 pm
I think they´ve met only once. Back in 1999 when they both was godparents to the newborn Konstantine of Greece. I think it was in april... I´ll see if I can find any pics from the christening.
A picture of the christening

I think it was the only time that they have met. It´s really a pity that prince William never participates in foreign Royal events :(

DDD 06-17-2004 06:00 PM

About ten years ago there was a rumour that Crown princess Victoria had a very good relationship with Crown prince Willem-Alexander, both heirs of the thrones.
A real relationship or just friendship?

MoonlightRhapsody 06-17-2004 06:12 PM

She seemed to be linked with every eligible prince/crown prince for awhile. William of Wales, Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, Frederik of Denmark, probably Haakon of Norway too...

timtonruben359 06-17-2004 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Alexandria@Apr 28th, 2004 - 1:08 pm
I think the provision is that he can not marry someone not of the Anglican faith. A previous discussion here about William's future wife's religion was based on her being Catholic, but not limited to the Catholic faith, simply used as an example.
Prince William can marry any woman he wants but they must convert to the Church of England in order for William to stay in the line of sucession. He could marry a Catholic as long as she converts to the Anglican faith. It has happened where the new wife refuses to change her religion and therefore her spouse loses his place in the line of sucession.

It's an old outdated law in my view along with the law then the first born male should succeed...but that's another debate ;)

GrandDuchess 06-18-2004 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by DDD@Jun 18th, 2004 - 12:00 am
About ten years ago there was a rumour that Crown princess Victoria had a very good relationship with Crown prince Willem-Alexander, both heirs of the thrones.
A real relationship or just friendship?

At one point, many years ago, there were rumours in some circles that Willem-Alexander had a "crush" for Victoria. They were seen quite a lot together, but then I think it just came to nothing since his feelings were not shared by her. Now they are friends.

Dennism 06-19-2004 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by Moonlightrhapsody@Jun 17th, 2004 - 6:12 pm
She seemed to be linked with every eligible prince/crown prince for awhile. William of Wales, Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, Frederik of Denmark, probably Haakon of Norway too...
Can hardly blame them... :flower:

princessbebe 06-27-2004 07:03 AM

;) Lucky girl!

The Watcher 06-27-2004 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by DDD@Jun 17th, 2004 - 5:00 pm
About ten years ago there was a rumour that Crown princess Victoria had a very good relationship with Crown prince Willem-Alexander, both heirs of the thrones.
A real relationship or just friendship?

Rumours, it was not true. According the gossip mags, he had also a relationship with Martha-Louise (that was also not true). He has with Victoria just a very good friendship :) I see on television and pictures Willem-Alexander and Victoria always talking with each other, after weddings and other official things (really always :blink: ) .


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