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Fireweaver 04-04-2004 07:11 PM

Queen Victoria, Family and Descendants
"Victoria's Daughters" by Jerrold M Packard

I picked this book up at a used bookstore, and I must say, I'm so impressed with it. It does get a bit confusing, as a lot of people have similar names (a problem in a lot of royal families). It gave me a lot of insight on Queen Victoria that I did not have before.

Alexandria 04-04-2004 07:24 PM

Sounds like a good read. Who is the author?

Fireweaver 04-04-2004 07:28 PM

Jerrold M. Packard wrote it.
I was very pleased that they had a "who is who" in the front.
I've decided that royal family trees are worse then family trees on soap opera's though. I gave up trying to figure out all the ways everyone was related :)

Elspeth 04-13-2004 03:30 AM

I read it a few years ago and found it very instructive and enjoyable. I hadn't realised that Princess Louise was quite so individual!

Is that the book which has pictures of all the daughters in little frames on the front cover? I vaguely remember not being able to tell any of them apart even after reading the book!

Fashionista100 04-13-2004 09:01 AM

Yes, I am currently reading this book. I agree it can be a bit confusing. The author wrote about all the daughters at the same time. So sometimes it was easy to confuse them. I wish that he would just write about one daughters life, then once finished with that one move on to the next. But I suppose he had to write about all at the same time to give the reader an idea of family dynamics. All I can say is I'm glad Queen Victoria was not my parent. She comes across as very demanding, and immature. A bit like throwing a temper tantrum as an adult.

Another good book which takes place in the same time peroid is "The Empress of Farewells: The story of Empress Charlotte of Mexico" by Prince Michael of Greece. The beginning of the book is slow, but it gets really good toward the second half of the book.

Fireweaver 04-23-2004 11:08 AM

Queen Victoria and Descendants
I believe I heard the latest update of the Queen Victoria's Decendants is out.
For the most comprehensive and uptodate listing of birth, death, and marriage (Plus much more) of all the decendants of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.

CathyEarnshaw 04-23-2004 11:43 AM

yes, it is ... and it must be noted that this is a companion edition only. This edition updates the 1997 volume.

and I should know ... I think I am the author :)

Fireweaver 04-23-2004 12:04 PM

aack, I forgot to put that information in, I'm so sorry!

Let's try this again :)

The Queen Victoria's Decendants (companion) by Marlene A. Eilers (Koneig)
(I'm not sure if you're using your married name or not).

CathyEarnshaw 04-23-2004 12:11 PM

Actually, Queen Victoria's Descendants (with the The) by Marlene A. Eilers. I use both names Eilers-Koenig for just about all writing, apart from this book because I used Eilers only for both the 87 and 97 editions.

thanks for the plug :rolleyes:

Fireweaver 04-23-2004 12:15 PM

Ok, I'm sucking at the book plug, but it's gotten good reviews (the orginal) on amazon, and from what I've seen of you on the different message boards, you obviously know you're stuff, so, even bigger bonus there. Information from an author who knows what she's talking about :)

CathyEarnshaw 04-23-2004 02:05 PM

thank you ... it's a very nice plug, actually

except you forgot the publisher (Rosvall royal books)


Fireweaver 04-23-2004 02:37 PM

doh! thanks Marlene.

CathyEarnshaw 04-23-2004 02:54 PM

Blushing :flower:

trinny 01-30-2005 06:10 AM

I was just looking at this book on the 'net yesterday!!

I was going to order it when I get a chance so it's good to know it's as good as I hoped it would be! :)

USCtrojan 02-03-2005 10:54 PM

I have been eyeballing this book at Borders for months. I have been wanting to read it and read it, so it looks like I will have to...

norwegianne 04-07-2005 06:36 AM

"Born to Rule" by Julia Gelardi [about Queen Victoria's granddaughters]
"Born to Rule" by Julia Gelardi [about Queen Victoria's granddaughters]

I've been looking at the book Born to Rule by Julia Girlardi (sp?). It seems to be about five of Queen Victoria's granddaughters. I think it looks interesting, judging from's summary.

Has anyone read it? Was it good? Informative? Or?

marezdote 04-07-2005 10:31 AM

I saw it at the book store and read the jacket and flipped through the book. I thought it looked really good.

pdas1201 04-22-2005 10:23 PM

I recently bought the book thinking that it would have info. on Queen Maud. Its a good book, well researched and provides for a fast paced read. The only disappointment was the lack of info. on Queen Maud (the very reason I bought it) and Queen Sophie of Greece. Since, these two didn't live as "exciting" and "spicy" life as Missy, Alix and Ena, they end up being shortchanged. I would really have liked some more exciting info. on Maud and Sophie, besides that the book was well worth the price paid for it.

wittykitty 05-06-2005 10:59 AM

I just it out of the library last week I agree not enought information on Qs Maud and Sofie but it's still a good book for people who are not familiar with the other queens & it's in english and like me I did't have to buy it to read. I didn't know Queen Ena had lost a still born baby Fernando, or had another late miscarriage despite King Alphonoso cheating on her.

Another good book is "Grandmamma of Europe" by Theo Aronson,it mentions Queen Victora trying to get Sofie to not buy dept store bulk furniture for Tatoi
but Sofie din't listen.

EmpressRouge 05-12-2005 01:23 PM

I'm reading it right now. It's not the most informative book (e.g. they didn't really mention how Edward VII made Ena a HRH - she was born only a HSH - right before her marriage to Alfonso so it would not seem like an unequal marriage. Does a lot of comparing between the women, which sometimes gets repetitive cz the author talks about one point over and over again. But it's still a good overall read. Maybe not worth the hardcover price and wait for the paperback. Or do what I did, ask the library to get it. :D

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