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Marengo 12-23-2008 04:56 PM

Prince Nicholas of Greece & Denmark and Grand Duchess Elena of Russia - 1902
 
On Prince Nicholas of Greece & Denmark, 3rd son of King George of the Hellenes, married Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna, only daughter of Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovitch of Russia and Duchess Marie of Mecklenburg Schwerin. The couple married in St. Petersburg (at Tsarkoye Selo):

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maria-olivia 12-23-2008 05:12 PM

Marengo,
Is that a wedding picture ?? it seems more a coronation picture
She is Marina of Kent and Olga of Yugoslavie's mother. She brought the jewels at the Greek's Court. She looks beatiful.
Do you have other pirctures of them ?

Marengo 12-23-2008 05:30 PM

Yes it is; she is wearing the traditional bridal attire for a Romanov bride (somewhat excessive to say the least ;)). I think all brides of the Romanov family wore this tiara and other jewels at their wedding. Note that behind the tiara she is wearing a bridal crown. I believe some of the jewels belonged to Catherine the Great.

Russophile 12-23-2008 07:28 PM

Marengo, isn't that "Greek Nicky" that Ella had a bit of a crush on??

Odette 12-23-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 871267)
Marengo,
Is that a wedding picture ?? it seems more a coronation picture
She is Marina of Kent and Olga of Yugoslavie's mother. She brought the jewels at the Greek's Court. She looks beatiful.
Do you have other pirctures of them ?

They had three daughters Olga, (married P Paul of Serbia) Elisabeth and Marina (Duchess of Kent)

Yeo-wang 10-12-2009 12:58 PM

Oh, so they are the proud royal parents of the trio Greek/Russian beauties.

Odette 10-12-2009 01:39 PM

I was reading the book "Alice" by Vickers and based on different sources, the Grand Duchess was very aware of her heritage and was "looking down" on Princess Alice (Princess Andrew) and Marie Bonaparte her sisters in law. She felt she was above them both on the royal totem pole. Her daughter Marina of Kent felt the same way about hers when she became a member of the British Royal family.

Royal Fan 10-12-2009 02:54 PM

Arent they Grandparents of Prince Michael of Kent

Dierna23 10-12-2009 03:07 PM

:previous:

yes, they are his maternal grandparents.

Russophile 10-12-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1003787)
I was reading the book "Alice" by Vickers and based on different sources, the Grand Duchess was very aware of her heritage and was "looking down" on Princess Alice (Princess Andrew) and Marie Bonaparte her sisters in law. She felt she was above them both on the royal totem pole. Her daughter Marina of Kent felt the same way about hers when she became a member of the British Royal family.

I have to read that book! I let it go back to the library!!
Quite a few people felt that their blood was better then. What would they think today with royalty marrying commoners left and right? :biggrin:

grandlordbenji16 12-26-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1003787)
I was reading the book "Alice" by Vickers and based on different sources, the Grand Duchess was very aware of her heritage and was "looking down" on Princess Alice (Princess Andrew) and Marie Bonaparte her sisters in law. She felt she was above them both on the royal totem pole. Her daughter Marina of Kent felt the same way about hers when she became a member of the British Royal family.

you are right those romanovs always feel that they are above anyone else first they though their title grandduchess mean grandprincess and in the early nineteen century those daughters of paul were being scorned by other european royals for their behavior which was it was out of question for a proud romanov to marry abroad,romanovs grandduchess were not to change their fate regardless and romanovs like to degrade queens and princesses who take precedence before them by wearing their most magnificent jewels all this and last romanovs were also accuse of being to picky in the end most of them decide to marry kings daughter and descendent of paul i their distant cousins so i wouldn be surprise to learne that princess nicholas of greece look down over the greeks princesses and her daughter who am sure will look down at the duchess of yorkP (future queen elizabeth the queen mother) and the duchess of glocester as they were merely commoner people whome the romanovs avoid in tsarist russia

Katrianna 12-27-2009 12:49 AM

Marina, Duchess of Kent, reportedly referred to the Duchess of York and the Duchess of Gloucester as "those common little Scottish girls". Source was a book on the present Queen by Sarah Bradford.

Odette 12-28-2009 11:33 PM

Russo, those old royals are spinning in their graves as we speak. lol
The Grand Duchess reportedly drove her daughter's future father in law crazy when she insisted that her title at the invitations of her daughter Marina with the Duke of Kent, be Her Imperial Highness and her Royal Highness.
It is no surprise that Marina went on to snob the Duchess of York and Duchess of Gloucester when she joined the BRF.

Russophile 12-30-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1035149)
Russo, those old royals are spinning in their graves as we speak. lol
The Grand Duchess reportedly drove her daughter's future father in law crazy when she insisted that her title at the invitations of her daughter Marina with the Duke of Kent, be Her Imperial Highness and her Royal Highness.
It is no surprise that Marina went on to snob the Duchess of York and Duchess of Gloucester when she joined the BRF.

Maybe she was getting back at them for all the snubs that Grand Duchess Marie of Edinburgh received?? Hmmm? :shifty:

Odette 12-30-2009 08:08 PM

:previous: Oh I do not believe Princess Ellen looked down her nose at the Greek royals to avenge the Duchess Marie's trials. Do you?

Brooke 03-14-2010 01:14 AM

I think Grandduchess Elena Vladimirovna...is actually Grandduchess Xenia.Sister of Tsar Nicholas II. Right?Isn't her sister Queen Marie of Romania...?I think so. It's confusing...but I think I am right.

Dierna23 03-14-2010 01:48 AM

:previous:

No. Elena Vladimirovna was neither Grand Duchess Xenia nor the sister of Tsar Nicholas II. She was his cousin. Elena had three brothers but no sister. You must have confused something. :flowers:

Russophile 03-15-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooke (Post 1059286)
I think Grandduchess Elena Vladimirovna...is actually Grandduchess Xenia.Sister of Tsar Nicholas II. Right?Isn't her sister Queen Marie of Romania...?I think so. It's confusing...but I think I am right.

Queen Marie of Roumania's sisters were: Ducky aka. Victoria Melita who married Kryill Vladimirovitch Romanov; Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and the other was Princess Beatrice whom they called "Baby Bea".

Marc23 03-20-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1035149)
Russo, those old royals are spinning in their graves as we speak. lol
The Grand Duchess reportedly drove her daughter's future father in law crazy when she insisted that her title at the invitations of her daughter Marina with the Duke of Kent, be Her Imperial Highness and her Royal Highness.
It is no surprise that Marina went on to snob the Duchess of York and Duchess of Gloucester when she joined the BRF.

Love this one...well,after all,she was entitled to it.She often drove crazy her other son in law Prince Paul with her "silly demands"...

snowflower 03-20-2010 08:21 AM

Elena was denifinately aware of who exactly she was.... A Russian Grand Duchess, the only girl of an immensely rich father etc... She was spoiled as a little girl and she continued to be spoiled after her marriage, since Nicholas always felt guilty for taking her away from St Petesburg's glamour. Her marriage wass definately a success, she was well matched with Nicholas. It was one of the few times she stood up against her mother and told her that she actually wanted to marry him, so it was time for Marie Pavlova to accept it .


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