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UserDane 10-29-2008 04:53 PM

Princess Marie's Lady-in-Waiting
 
The royal website - Kongehuset - Aktuelt - Nyheder - has announced that Marianne Engel will be princess Marie's lady in waiting, private secretary as of 16 November.

sgl 10-29-2008 06:09 PM

Thank you for the link, UserDane! I have been waiting to see when Princess Marie would announce who her LIW would be. What do you know about her? I tried to read the information, but I can't read in Danish (it didn't have anything in English).

UserDane 10-29-2008 06:50 PM

You are welcome Sql :smile:
The annoncement is rather short, basically just what I wrote.

I don't know who Marianne Engel is - but I am sure that BilledBladet will have an feature about her in a day or two ;)

sgl 10-29-2008 07:02 PM

Thank you for your translation! I did a Google search on her, but I was only able to find some links to websites that discuss a fictional character in a novel that has the same name, and a Swiss photographer (maybe it's her).

Paty 10-30-2008 10:48 AM

Princess Marie´s Lady-in-Waiting
 
It´s Official, Princess Marie´s Laidy in Waiting is Marianne Engel. Also she will be her Privat Secretary
Effective from November 16

Quote:

Amalienborg, den 29. oktober 2008
Hendes Majestæt Dronningen har i dag udnævnt fru Marianne Engel til hofdame, privatsekretær for Hendes Kongelige Højhed Prinsesse Marie med virkning fra den 16. november 2008.

Kongehuset - Aktuelt - Nyheder
Can some Danish Member tell us more about this Lady?

biboquinhas 10-30-2008 01:14 PM

Is that realy necessary? Having a Lady in waiting for Marie? Is she gone to perform sucht important events and so many times??:ermm:

carlota 10-30-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by biboquinhas (Post 845278)
Is that realy necessary? Having a Lady in waiting for Marie? Is she gone to perform sucht important events and so many times??:ermm:

the queen of the netherlands or queen elizabeth both have at least a handful of ladies in waiting and other bunch of supporting staff. are mary's activities that important to have a lady in waiting AND a secretary? i would very much doubt any of the ladies needs ladies in waiting that much. letizia performs twice the activities and doesn't count with personalized staff.

besides, marie just started as a princess. her position may become as important (in terms of quantity and quality of organizations) as alexandra. we just don't know. if the court assigned her a LIW is because they must have something planned for her. both mary and alexandra travelled abroad quite a bit. i guess marie will be in a similar position (obviously, taking into account she is not the crown princess or had all the expectations upon her of being the first princess of denmark in a long time).

i'm glad that marie's trip has been rescheduled (i'm quite interested in finding out who will be the person from the royal house of morocco attending with her... maybe safe to assume it will be one of the lalla's) and she was assigned a lady in waiting. hopefully we will find out more about marianne soon.

sgl 11-09-2008 12:22 PM

Has any additional information about Marie's L-I-W come out? I have been looking for information about who she is (other than her name), what she does, etc, and have not been able to find anything. I am looking forward to learning more about her.

Duke of Marmalade 11-09-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sgl (Post 849840)
Has any additional information about Marie's L-I-W come out? I have been looking for information about who she is (other than her name), what she does, etc, and have not been able to find anything. I am looking forward to learning more about her.

According to BB Marianne Engel is married (to Ditlev Engel, manager of Vestas, an energy company, see below) and has 2 children.

Vestas | Ditlev Engel, President and CEO

Mye å gjøre for Marie - Side2

sgl 11-09-2008 04:00 PM

What did she do professionally before the appointment as LIW? Is she a native of Denmark?

sneeuwklokje 11-10-2008 04:24 AM

I'm sure she's a native Dane, otherwise she would't be of much use to Marie, wouldn't she? Marie is after all just Danish by marriage and a LIW for her should know all the ins and outs of Danish society.

antonieta 11-10-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sneeuwklokje (Post 850320)
I'm sure she's a native Dane, otherwise she would't be of much use to Marie, wouldn't she? Marie is after all just Danish by marriage and a LIW for her should know all the ins and outs of Danish society.

Not necessarily. Remember CrownPrincess Mary 1st lady in waiting?! She isn´t danish. She is married with a danish aristocrat.
If i'm not mistaken she is american.

sgl 11-10-2008 03:45 PM

I do agree with Sneeuwklokje about the LIW needing to know about the ins and outs of Danish society. However, this could be someone who has lived in Denmark for many years but wasn't born there. As long as the LIW thoroughly understands Danish society, she will be valuable. I definitely think that the LIW should be fluent in Danish.

Royal77 11-10-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sgl (Post 850776)
I do agree with Sneeuwklokje about the LIW needing to know about the ins and outs of Danish society. However, this could be someone who has lived in Denmark for many years but wasn't born there. As long as the LIW thoroughly understands Danish society, she will be valuable. I definitely think that the LIW should be fluent in Danish.


I agreed. Marie 's LIW need to be fluent in Danish. So she can help Marie speak Danish at events. It is wrong to have a Danish princess who cannot speak Danish. Marie should be very embarress at events where she had to thanks the Dames in English or French. That's is just wrong!

agnessa 11-10-2008 05:04 PM

Speaking about does Marie need LIW I must say that it's good when Marie have someone whom she can asked help and advice and who can send her in duties. And I think that LIW is somehow traditional and belongs into royal ladies life.

sgl 11-10-2008 05:08 PM

Agnessa, you have made an excellent point. No, Marie is not the crown princess, but she is a royal highness and a representative of the royal family. She definitely should have a LIW, especially since she is so new to this "job". A LIW will be able to help Marie get acclimated to life in Denmark, and she will be able to help her manage her royal duties (when those royal duties start to increase). It would also be nice if her LIW becomes a close friend that she can trust and turn to when she is stressed out or lonely.

marmi 11-10-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by antonieta (Post 850519)
Not necessarily. Remember CrownPrincess Mary 1st lady in waiting?! She isn´t danish. She is married with a danish aristocrat.
If i'm not mistaken she is american.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgl (Post 850776)
I do agree with Sneeuwklokje about the LIW needing to know about the ins and outs of Danish society. However, this could be someone who has lived in Denmark for many years but wasn't born there. As long as the LIW thoroughly understands Danish society, she will be valuable. I definitely think that the LIW should be fluent in Danish.

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Originally Posted by Royal77 (Post 850815)
I agreed. Marie 's LIW need to be fluent in Danish. So she can help Marie speak Danish at events. It is wrong to have a Danish princess who cannot speak Danish. Marie should be very embarress at events where she had to thanks the Dames in English or French. That's is just wrong!

There are advantages to having a LIW who is not from Denmark, as the Countess was not (by birth) - the LIW is familiar with the challenges of learning the Danish language, culture etc
I've been through & picked out a couple of relevent posts from the Mary LIW thread - One ; Two

Of course, we dont know anything about this woman yet!!!

sgl 11-11-2008 09:02 PM

Does anyone know if Marie's LIW accompanied her to Morocco? I have been waiting for a mention of it in the Moroccan visit thread, but haven't seen any confirmation yet. There is a woman getting off of the plane with Marie in one of the photos, could this be her?

JessRulz 11-11-2008 09:05 PM

Marie's LIW will begin on November 16th. I don't think she would have accompanied Marie to Morocco before she actually begins working for the royal house.

sgl 11-11-2008 09:24 PM

Thank you, Jess Rulz. I must have missed the info about her starting date. She probably wouldn't have gone to Morocco before her starting date. Does anyone know if Marie had other royal employees accompany her to Morocco (other than her security) in the role of a LIW?


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