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lula 08-20-2008 03:15 PM

The Spanish Royals' Response to the Aeroplane Crash in Madrid: August 21, 2008
 
http://www.heraldo.es/index.php/mod....dnoticia.21999

The King shows his "consternation" and "pain" for the magnitude of the tragedy

The King showed his "consternation", "horror" and "pain" for the magnitude of the accident happened this evening in the airport of Madrid Barajas for a plane of the company Spanair that was going to Las Palmas with 164 passengers and 9 crewmen on board, reported a speaker of Royal House.

The Royal Family to the complete one, some of which members they are in Pekin following the Olympic Games, is " very affected " for the tragedy and is kept permanently informed about the evolution of the events, it added the same source.

lula 08-20-2008 05:01 PM

http://actualidad.terra.es/articulo/...ng-2694458.htm

The Queen will return in the early morning to Madrid from Beijing, since she had foreseen

The Queen will return to Madrid in the first hour of tomorrow proceeding from Beijing, where she has been following the Olympic Games, they informed today to Europa Press sources of the Olympic Spanish Committee, which added that Dona Sofía already had foreseen to return tomorrow to Spain before there was produced the accident of Spanair's plane.

Dona Sofía has embarked this evening (dawn in China) in a direct flight Madrid, which has arrival foreseen tomorrow around 6.00, according to the same sources, which added that the Dukes of Palm, who also are in Beijing, will pass this night in the Chinese capital.

carlota 08-20-2008 11:05 PM

i'm sure we will see most of the spanish family back in madrid. the most important politicians have suspended their holidays and i would suspect the royal family will do the same.
it was such a catastrophic event and i really feel for the families of the victims... hopefully those in hospital will recover.

LadyFinn 08-21-2008 12:28 AM

EuropaPress/La Reina regresará a primera hora de la mañana a Madrid desde Beijing, como tenía previsto
The Queen returns to Madrid early this morning.
EuropaPress/Accidente Barajas.- Los Reyes se desplazarán mañana a IFEMA y los Príncipes visitarán a los heridos
The Kings will travel today to Tanatorio installed in the Ifema exhibition centre with the aim of supporting the families of those killed in plane crash today at Barajas airport, while the Princes of Asturias foreseen in the afternoon to visit the wounded admitted to various hospitals in Madrid, a spokesman for Royal House told to Europa press.

PrincessofEurope 08-21-2008 07:50 AM

http://www.hola.com/casasreales/gale...as-casasreales visiting those injured after the plane crash in hospital

PrincessofEurope 08-21-2008 07:51 AM

http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2008...ia-real-avion/

lula 08-21-2008 09:27 AM

http://www.abc.es/20080821/nacional-...808211334.html

The Kings accompany the relatives of the victims in Ifema

Don Juan Carlos and dona Sofía came at 12.30 hours to the terminal 4 of Barajas to meet the persons in charge of the airport and to know the details of the desaster. Together with the Kings they are present at the meeting the minister of Promotion, Magdalena Álvarez, the director in functions of AENA, Javier Marín, and that of the airport, Miguel Ángel Oleaga.

Later, the Kings have come about 13:20 to Ifema's fairground enclosure, accompanied of the chairwoman of the Community of Madrid, Esperanza Aguirre, and the minister of Promotion, Magdalena Alvarez, to accompany the relatives of the victims of the flight of damaged Spanair yesterday in the Airport of Barajas (Madrid). In the fairground enclosure, where they find the mortal remains of 153 deceased in the plane crash for their identification, the monarches were got by the mayor of Madrid, Alberto Ruiz Gallardón, and the president of Canaries, Paulino Rivero.

Don Juan Carlos and Doña Sofía went to the room where the relatives of the victims are to show their condolences, support, solidarity and fondness to all the affected ones.

Video
http://www.elmundo.es/jjoo/2008/2008...219295616.html

The Dukes of Palma in the act of the Olympic Spanish Committee in the House of Spain in Pekin in memory of the victims of the accident of Barajas. The Olympic International Committee and the organization of the Olympic Games of Pekin have prohibited to the Spanish delegation symbols of mourning in the Olympic Villa or in the competitions.

lucien 08-21-2008 10:10 AM

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?...=8082485&pos=9

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?...8081780&pos=24



courtesy Royalimages.

yamamah 08-21-2008 10:15 AM

What a shocking and terrible tragedy for all those involved and their families. I was reading about it in the newspaper and it is horrific. May God be with all those who have suffered. I do not envy Letizia and Felipe having to visit people after this event, what can one say to people after something like this?

However, I know they will be as tactful, discreet and empathetic as they were after the Atocha bombings.

Those poor people.

lula 08-21-2008 10:20 AM

The King Juan Carlos I of Spain and Queen Sofia greet the members of the fire brigade that took part in the emergency works after the flight of the airlines Spanair heading to Canary Islands chashed and burst into flames after taking off from the terminal 4 of the Barajas international airport, killing 153 people and leaving 19 injured. The accident is the worst disaster in the last 25 years of the Spanish commercial aviation history.

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?...8082292&pos=23
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http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?...8082372&pos=21

carlota 08-21-2008 11:07 AM

the king, queen and princes of asturias will visit the families and victims in the hospitals in madrid, according to hola. it will happen some time today.

http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2008...ia-real-avion/

lucien 08-21-2008 11:11 AM

:spainstandard:
The Spanish Royal Family is exemplary,both in times of joy as well as deep grief,they know exactly what to do to either support and comfort.

A very special commodity,never to be taken for granted.

God Bless Them,and Spain.

Duke of Marmalade 08-21-2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 814197)
:spainstandard:
The Spanish Royal Family is exemplary,both in times of joy as well as deep grief,they know exactly what to do to either support and comfort.

A very special commodity,never to be taken for granted.

I agree Lucien but especially this case is major. It's a national catastrophy. I am 100% sure that members of any other royal family would be out and about now if the same happened in their country. The RF who would not go out to comfort and share the grief with their people deserved to be made redundant on the spot.

Jackswife 08-21-2008 11:24 AM

I fully expected that all the Spanish royals would do just this. Their country is in a time of need and, as they showed with the Madrid train bombing and other events, that they stand for their nation in all circumstances. My sympathies to the people of Spain, the victims, and the survivors.

PrincessofEurope 08-21-2008 11:49 AM

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/De...|0&id=82494193

lula 08-21-2008 11:58 AM

The Kings accompany the relatives of the victims in Ifema

Videos
http://www.abc.es/20080821/nacional-...808211334.html

http://www.abc.es/20080821/nacional-...808211334.html

IPA
http://www.ipapress.com/aspx/reporta...194&hdActBus=1

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Little_star 08-21-2008 12:09 PM

It#s wonderful to see the Spanish royals wth their people. Imo, this is one of their biggest strengths, their abilityto connect with their people during difficult times. I wish my own Royals were able to do the same thing

lula 08-21-2008 12:46 PM

Infanta Cristina and Iñaki Urdangarin take part in a moment of silence, held for the victims of the Spanair MD-82 that crashed at Madrid's airport at the Casa España in Beijing

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?p...=8081048&pos=6
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lula 08-21-2008 01:40 PM

http://www.diariodesevilla.es/articl...e/barajas.html

The Princes visit the injured of the accident of Barajas

The Princes of Asturias have initiated this evening in the Hospital Infanta Sofía of San Sebastian de los Reyes their visit to nineteen injured people of the plane crash of Barajas who remain in the hospitals of Madrid.

The tour of the Princes of Asturias continues for the Ramon and Cajal, La Paz, La Princesa and Niño Jesús to end in 12 de Octubre.

Photo
http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2008...hospital-a.jpg

Parrothead 08-21-2008 01:41 PM

I agree with you, Yamamah. It is nice to see them offering what comfort they can to everyone involved in the tragedy. I think shows how concerned they are for others and try to do what they can during this awful time.

LadyFinn 08-21-2008 03:04 PM

ABC/La Familia Real se vuelca con las victimas
Video - Felipe and Letizia at the hospital
ABC

Photos:
King Juan Carlos
El Pais
Felipe and Letizia
El Pais
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DiezMinutos/Los Reyes, con las víctimas

Video, Felipe and Letizia leaving from another hospital
Informativos Telecinco
Letizia is so sad, this has been a long and difficult day for the people of Spain.

LadyFinn 08-21-2008 03:05 PM

Video / Felipe and Letizia at the hospital
ABC

Video / Felipe and Letizia leaving another hospital.
Informativos Telecinco
Princess is very sad, this has been a difficult day.

Photos:
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agm 08-21-2008 03:35 PM

Video from Tve / Felipe and Letizia at the hospital

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOpznLh9K7I

lula 08-21-2008 04:12 PM

Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia visited the hospital for injured people in the crash aeroplane in Madrid.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?z...08-2008 Madrid

Prince Felipe of Spain and Princess Letizia of Spain talk to the press outside La Paz hospital after visiting survivors of the Spanair plane crash accident

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LadyFinn 08-21-2008 04:17 PM

Felipe and Letizia leaving a hospital
Daylife

Photos of this sad day
Getty Images
Letizia - a face full of sorrow
Getty Images
But she tried to smile bravely
Daylife

lula 08-21-2008 05:11 PM

Video

http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos/...oticias&s2=&s3=

tan_berry 08-21-2008 06:04 PM

DonnaK, maybe that was Queen Sofía old style, when she was very young and unexperienced. That´s why I say CP Letizia is still learning. I like her, and do not want it seems I am criticizing her harshly.

The accident of the plane must be hard for her, remembering the death of her sister.

I read the story in an spanish paper and the "tu" thing was said.

grevinnan 08-21-2008 06:15 PM

Spain is just now dealing with a terrible accident and loss of lives and the discussion centers around how Letizia responded to a perfectly reasonable question??? Luckily the royal family is much more in touch with reality than is displayed on this board.

catango 08-21-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grevinnan (Post 814425)
Spain is just now dealing with a terrible accident and loss of lives and the discussion centers around how Letizia responded to a perfectly reasonable question??? Luckily the royal family is much more in touch with reality than is displayed on this board.


Totally agree:cool:

chuchu 08-21-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agm (Post 814345)
Video from Tve / Felipe and Letizia at the hospital

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOpznLh9K7I

Letizia looked like she was in shell-shocked. She was very agitated.

Vanesa 08-21-2008 08:47 PM

I can barely believe what happened in Spain...What an horror. :ohmy::cry: The only good thing in all this, is that Royal Family is accomplishing its duties, trying to bring some relief to the grief all the families of the victims must be feeling right now. Poor people!

Vanesa.

Roxsteve 08-21-2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tan_berry (Post 814419)
DonnaK, maybe that was Queen Sofía old style, when she was very young and unexperienced. That´s why I say CP Letizia is still learning. I like her, and do not want it seems I am criticizing her harshly.

The accident of the plane must be hard for her, remembering the death of her sister.

I read the story in an spanish paper and the "tu" thing was said.


Well, Letizia should be there for the people because they died in such a tragic way. Her sister's situation was different. Hopefully, she feels for the people and not only thinks about her sister. This is about other people--about people who have lost loved ones in such a sudden way. We pray for the victims and mostly for their families.

Letizia should stop touching her hair throughout the interview. It's very distracting. Also, I would have liked seeing her in a skirt and more formal just like the Prince.

Winnie 08-21-2008 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roxsteve (Post 814495)
Well, Letizia should be there for the people because they died in such a tragic way. Her sister's situation was different. Hopefully, she feels for the people and not only thinks about her sister. This is about other people--about people who have lost loved ones in such a sudden way. We pray for the victims and mostly for their families.

Letizia should stop touching her hair throughout the interview. It's very distracting. Also, I would have liked seeing her in a skirt and more formal just like the Prince.

The wind was blowing her hair and she was keeping out of her eyes. And she was dressed just fine. I am sure that she was not thinking about her sister or any other relative at that time. Everyone is praying for the victims families including, I am sure, the entire Royal Family of Spain.

Ella Kay 08-22-2008 12:08 AM

I feel like she retained her composure really well, coming out of an incredibly emotional environment to immediately face the press. I read that some of the survivors are young children, and that had to be hard for the Princes to see as parents of young kids themselves.

I thought she was dressed appropriately - the jacket/pants combo has been a staple of Letizia's public wardrobe since her engagement announcement and even before that. As for the hair, I'm sure she was just trying to get her hair out of her face so she could see and hear the media during the press conference - the wind looked like it was blowing fairly briskly.

Most of all, I was very impressed by Felipe's overall demeanor while being interviewed about such a terrible tragedy. He's really grown into his role since he married Letizia, IMO, and he's seeming more and more like someone who will be a strong and successful king for Spain in the future.

Roxsteve 08-22-2008 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ella Kay (Post 814511)
I feel like she retained her composure really well, coming out of an incredibly emotional environment to immediately face the press. I read that some of the survivors are young children, and that had to be hard for the Princes to see as parents of young kids themselves.

I thought she was dressed appropriately - the jacket/pants combo has been a staple of Letizia's public wardrobe since her engagement announcement and even before that. As for the hair, I'm sure she was just trying to get her hair out of her face so she could see and hear the media during the press conference - the wind looked like it was blowing fairly briskly.

Most of all, I was very impressed by Felipe's overall demeanor while being interviewed about such a terrible tragedy. He's really grown into his role since he married Letizia, IMO, and he's seeming more and more like someone who will be a strong and successful king for Spain in the future.


What a wonderful way to state your opinion without being critical of someone else's post. Thank you for such a great way to say what you believe and still remain respectful of my view. Thanks!

LadyFinn 08-22-2008 12:43 AM

Felipe and Letizia
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Ella Kay 08-22-2008 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roxsteve (Post 814512)
What a wonderful way to state your opinion without being critical of someone else's post. Thank you for such a great way to say what you believe and still remain respectful of my view. Thanks!

You're welcome, Roxsteve. :flowers:

Mari_* 08-22-2008 03:21 AM

This is just incredibly sad. :sad:
For what I understand the airplane took off, but they had problems and landed .. the problem was "fixed" and they took off again and then the airplane crashed is that right?

Ccile 08-22-2008 04:43 AM

What a terrible tragedy for Spain!!

It's great to see that in those sad occasions the royal family is still near the spanish people and try to help them as much as they can

Paty 08-22-2008 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari_* (Post 814532)
This is just incredibly sad. :sad:
For what I understand the airplane took off, but they had problems and landed .. the problem was "fixed" and they took off again and then the airplane crashed is that right?

Yes, that´s right Mari.

Actually there is a serius polemic in spain after the crash.
It seems that the airplane was ready to takeoff but the pilot noticed a red alarm in the control panel and then he decided to retrun to the parking as the plane mecanis could review the problem. Once the problem was repair the pilot takeoff and then the airplane crashed.

Some passengers wont to fly afther the first problem.

Acording to the airline the first problem has nothing to do with the causes of the crash.

Gallery
http://www.prismanews.com/spip.php?article3716

Little_star 08-22-2008 05:19 AM

will the Spanish be holding a large memorial for the dead? Like they did after the Madrid train bombings?

Paty 08-22-2008 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little_star (Post 814555)

Back to the topic on hand will the Spanish be holding a large memorial for the dead? Like they did after the Madrid train bombings?

We still don´t know.
You´ll see, the majority of the corps are still without indentify, only 49 of 153 are indentify. So the rest of the families are waiting for DNA probes.


MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN TO KING CARLOS OF SPAIN

Guido 08-22-2008 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 814542)
It seems to me you haven't got a clue of the world,and more specific,this thread.Do you realise what this is about?A nose job,huh?
This thread is about the air disaster,in case you haven't noticed the difference between 153 dead & others severely wounded and a nose.


Lucien, I take it as an offence. I know exactly what's happening in the world. When the moderators created this thread I had already posted my comment in another thread.

Paty 08-22-2008 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paty (Post 814558)
We still don´t know.
You´ll see, the majority of the corps are still without indentify, only 49 of 153 are indentify. So the rest of the families are waiting for DNA probes.

It´s has been confirmed now that the Funneral will be on September 1 at 20:00h in Almudena Cathedral.

PrincessofEurope 08-22-2008 07:34 AM

when Felipe and Letizia spoke to the press what did she say?

fanprincipesasturi 08-22-2008 07:52 AM

[quote=LadyFinn;814335]ABC/La Familia Real se vuelca con las victimas
Video - Felipe and Letizia at the hospital
ABC



translation of the words of prince Felipe… I hope that it is a correct translation
"Spain is really in mourning and is a very difficult day for all, the people who live they themselves are undergoing much and we want to be here today with them. we have come to visit many of the wounded people who are in different hospitals from Madrid, to speak with their relatives… we we mean to support them our, our hug and to them that they have the confidence who well are taken care of… we have visited the wounded who the doctors let see… some to us of the families are glad so that their relatives are well but others are sad so that their relatives are very serious."

fanprincipesasturi 08-22-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrincessofEurope (Post 814578)
when Felipe and Letizia spoke to the press what did she say?


more or less, the princess says:
Robert, the boy is called Robert and her mother has a great anger so that her daughter has died but she must take care of of the boy who is alive, she is very strong

fanprincipesasturi 08-22-2008 08:03 AM

¡¡ qué pena,qué tristeza,qué dolor!!
REST IN PEACE,DENCANSEN EN PAZ

Iain 08-22-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 814199)
I agree Lucien but especially this case is major. It's a national catastrophy. I am 100% sure that members of any other royal family would be out and about now if the same happened in their country. The RF who would not go out to comfort and share the grief with their people deserved to be made redundant on the spot.

Unfortunately the British Royals never show face when there is a disaster or tragedy.

Duke of Marmalade 08-22-2008 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain (Post 814591)
Unfortunately the British Royals never show face when there is a disaster or tragedy.

Of course they do and your statement is completely unfounded. In the days of 7/7 most members of the BRF, including HM, had events in relation to the London Bombings. The BRF has a history of showing solidarity with their people, with the monarch couple staying in London during WW II giving only one of many examples.

stellad 08-22-2008 09:12 AM

Another sad day for Spain. Condolences to everyone affected by this severe tragedy.

Stellad

PrincessofEurope 08-22-2008 11:48 AM

Thank you fanprincipesasturi for your translation of Felipe and Letizia's speech to the press :flowers:

Winnie 08-22-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrincessofEurope (Post 814662)
Thank you fanprincipesasturi for your translation of Felipe and Letizia's speech to the press :flowers:

I also thank you for your translation fanprincipesasturi. It certainly shows the kindness of the Royal Family and their compassion. I just watched a news cast on the Spanish TV station and The King and Queen were entering a large building. The King was obvious concerned about the state of the Queen's emotion and kept talking to her quietly as they walked. At one point he even touched her shoulder in support and he had such a loving look on his face. Gave me quite a new impression on their relationship.

Liah76 08-22-2008 12:19 PM

This is a tragedy, :(
A realy sad day for Spain

LadyFinn 08-22-2008 12:30 PM

La Region/Los Príncipes visitaron a los heridos del accidente de Barajas
Diario de Burgos/Recuerdo en el silencio
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Iain 08-22-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 814596)
Of course they do and your statement is completely unfounded. In the days of 7/7 most members of the BRF, including HM, had events in relation to the London Bombings. The BRF has a history of showing solidarity with their people, with the monarch couple staying in London during WW II giving only one of many examples.

Did they visit the families of the children killed in Dunblane? No! Did they visit the people who lost everything in the floods in England last year, or in Scotland and Northern Ireland this year? No! Did they Visit the injured of the London bombings or the families of the dead? Again no!
As for them stayng in London during the war, that was nothing but a media lie to make Londoners think that the King and Queen were stading shoulder to shoulder with them. Documents released under the Freedom of Information Act show thay they were only in London during the day and were taken out of the city every evening. When the palace was bombed they were safely out of town but were taken back very early in the morning to make it look as if they had been there when the building was hit.

lucien 08-22-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little_star (Post 814555)
will the Spanish be holding a large memorial for the dead? Like they did after the Madrid train bombings?

Apparently that is scheduled for next week,allthough I don't know the exact hour yet.

LadyFinn 08-22-2008 01:37 PM

Novinite Sofia News Agency/Spain Prince Felipe Visits Injured in Madrid Plane Crash, Bulgaria's Kardam

Pure People/PHOTOS : La princesse Letizia d'Espagne, à l'hôpital, complètement bouleversée !

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DiezMinutos/Felipe y Letizia apoyan a los heridos de Barajas
The Dukes of Palma:
DiezMinutos/Los Juegos Olímpicos se tiñen de luto
Video of the interview of Infanta Cristina:
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bbb 08-22-2008 02:29 PM

my heartfelt sympathy to the Spanish people, this is so tragic and saddness is felt all over the world. I can't imagine the deep grief and pain all of the families are feeling. I admire and respect the Spanish Royal Family for their words and support. There is nothing they can really say or do to make it better.....just love and comfort and a sharing of tears. God Bless

donnaK 08-22-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roxsteve (Post 814495)
Well, Letizia should be there for the people because they died in such a tragic way. Her sister's situation was different. Hopefully, she feels for the people and not only thinks about her sister. This is about other people--about people who have lost loved ones in such a sudden way. We pray for the victims and mostly for their families.

She was there for the injured people, I guess she probably did't even have the time to think about the death of her sister. She said that she was very touched by the courage of a mother, whose daughter died, son injured, and her determination to recover quickly to take care of her injured boy. Most of the injured ones were very sad since they lost their loved ones. Those victims were simply at the wrong place, it could happen to anyone on a commerical flight. The royal family (maybe except for the King) also take commercial flights for their private outings.
They also went to visit Prince Kardam, who is at the same hospital.
http://international.ibox.bg/news/id_1875206118

LadyFinn 08-22-2008 04:28 PM

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Felipe and Letizia
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The King and the Queen
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tan_berry 08-22-2008 05:50 PM

So sorry
 
My condolences, Spain, in this tragic hour. I follow everyday the news in TVE, there are still 100 bodies unidentified that are going to need DNA tests. And the families waiting for them are in absolute despair.

Elise27 08-23-2008 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain (Post 814693)
Did they visit the families of the children killed in Dunblane? No! Did they visit the people who lost everything in the floods in England last year, or in Scotland and Northern Ireland this year? No! Did they Visit the injured of the London bombings or the families of the dead? Again no!
As for them stayng in London during the war, that was nothing but a media lie to make Londoners think that the King and Queen were stading shoulder to shoulder with them. Documents released under the Freedom of Information Act show thay they were only in London during the day and were taken out of the city every evening. When the palace was bombed they were safely out of town but were taken back very early in the morning to make it look as if they had been there when the building was hit.

This thread is not about comparing the royal families but I feel the need to respond to your comment because what you are saying is simply not true.

No offense but I think you need to be better informed before making these types of comments. I remember the queen did visit dunblane with princess Anne and spoke to family members, the queen looked very saddened and moved and on the verge of tears.
After the 7/7 bombings the queen did visit the injured in a London hospital there was tons of coverage on that and I clearly remember the speech that she gave at the hospital about standing strong in the face of the barbarity that had occurred. And as far as last years floods i remember prince charles visited areas that were flooded.
I recall other tragedies that have occured such as the train accident a couple of years back where the queen also visited the site and again looked very moved by the flowers that had been left for the victims.


yes we do see more pics of the Spanish royal family hugging and comforting the families of the victims but thats in the nature of Spanish people in general to be like that. Having lived in England i can say that the British are more reserved and that is why the British royal family are way more reserved than the Spanish.

pamk 08-23-2008 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 814596)
Of course they do and your statement is completely unfounded. In the days of 7/7 most members of the BRF, including HM, had events in relation to the London Bombings. The BRF has a history of showing solidarity with their people, with the monarch couple staying in London during WW II giving only one of many examples.

I take offense at the Duke of Marmalade's statement. The BRF showed great compassion towards the United States after the 9/11 tragedy.

LadyFinn 08-23-2008 06:35 AM

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Duke of Marmalade 08-23-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pamk (Post 814952)
I take offense at the Duke of Marmalade's statement. The BRF showed great compassion towards the United States after the 9/11 tragedy.

What do you find offensive about my statement pamk. All I said is that the BRF show the same compassion to their people when national tragedies happen (eg at 7/7) as the Spanish do (and they express their symathy with other countries too, eg the US and in this case, Spain), not the other way around as stated by another poster.

Duchessofperth 08-23-2008 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elise27 (Post 814930)
This thread is not about comparing the royal families but I feel the need to respond to your comment because what you are saying is simply not true.

No offense but I think you need to be better informed before making these types of comments. I remember the queen did visit dunblane with princess Anne and spoke to family members, the queen looked very saddened and moved and on the verge of tears.
After the 7/7 bombings the queen did visit the injured in a London hospital there was tons of coverage on that and I clearly remember the speech that she gave at the hospital about standing strong in the face of the barbarity that had occurred. And as far as last years floods i remember prince charles visited areas that were flooded.
I recall other tragedies that have occured such as the train accident a couple of years back where the queen also visited the site and again looked very moved by the flowers that had been left for the victims.


yes we do see more pics of the Spanish royal family hugging and comforting the families of the victims but thats in the nature of Spanish people in general to be like that. Having lived in England i can say that the British are more reserved and that is why the British royal family are way more reserved than the Spanish.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but as someone who's family comes from Dunblane I can assure you that Queen Elizabeth did not visit at the time of the killings. She did attend the memorial service a few weeks later but had not planned to do so. It was supposed to be prince Andrew but there was an outcry in Scotland with the Scottish press calling her uncareing and out of touch. One paper even told her to to get off her backside and do her duty. Feelings were running so high that her advisers told her that her non-appearence could cause untold damage to the monarchy. The queen had to give in and attend. Even then, she did not speak to the families, only to some officials and then dashed away. Nor did she visit those injured in the bombings, that was prince Charles.
And it's not the British who are reserved, it's the English. The other nations in the U.K. do show their emotions.
The Spanish people are lucky to have Royal family who care.

fanprincipesasturi 08-23-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iain (Post 814591)
Unfortunately the British Royals never show face when there is a disaster or tragedy.

i agree with you!!!!

Camarina 08-24-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Iain (Post 814693)
Did they visit the families of the children killed in Dunblane? No! Did they visit the people who lost everything in the floods in England last year, or in Scotland and Northern Ireland this year? No! Did they Visit the injured of the London bombings or the families of the dead? Again no!
As for them stayng in London during the war, that was nothing but a media lie to make Londoners think that the King and Queen were stading shoulder to shoulder with them. Documents released under the Freedom of Information Act show thay they were only in London during the day and were taken out of the city every evening. When the palace was bombed they were safely out of town but were taken back very early in the morning to make it look as if they had been there when the building was hit.

I´m totally agree with you Ian.
I do not understand why BRF did not support its citizens in difficult times, it is really sad!!

Drottning 08-24-2008 03:57 PM

I know I am late but I send my condolences to the people of Spain. This was a tragic disaster. I am so sorry.

Elise27 08-25-2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Duchessofperth (Post 815108)
I'm sorry to disagree with you but as someone who's family comes from Dunblane I can assure you that Queen Elizabeth did not visit at the time of the killings. She did attend the memorial service a few weeks later but had not planned to do so. It was supposed to be prince Andrew but there was an outcry in Scotland with the Scottish press calling her uncareing and out of touch. One paper even told her to to get off her backside and do her duty. Feelings were running so high that her advisers told her that her non-appearence could cause untold damage to the monarchy. The queen had to give in and attend. Even then, she did not speak to the families, only to some officials and then dashed away. Nor did she visit those injured in the bombings, that was prince Charles.
And it's not the British who are reserved, it's the English. The other nations in the U.K. do show their emotions.
The Spanish people are lucky to have Royal family who care.

I respect your sentiments with regard to Dunblane but I just do not think its fair to characterize the royal family as uncaring when there have been national tragedies. Whatever the reasons for their handling of certain events differently than the spanish, i think it is an unfair characterization. I remember the queen looking quite moved when she did go to dunblane. To say that someone did not care or was not saddened about something like Dunblane to me is saying they are a monster/evil.

I think that we also must remember that the SRF have had to do more to win the affection of the spanish people and assure the position of the monarchy in Spain, in a sense the BRF has never had to do that because they have always been there.

I am just bothered because every time something like this happens there are certain people that always have to bring these sorts of comparisons up.

Paty 08-25-2008 05:51 AM

Condolences from His Majesty the King of Norway on the plane crash in Madrid.

Paty 08-27-2008 02:01 PM

The Princes of Asturias will attend on saturday in Canary the Funneral in memorian of the victims.

The "official" funneral will take place on September 11 in Madrid.

Los PrÃ*ncipes asistirán el sábado al funeral por las vÃ*ctimas en Canarias. europapress.es

pamk 08-27-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 815045)
What do you find offensive about my statement pamk. All I said is that the BRF show the same compassion to their people when national tragedies happen (eg at 7/7) as the Spanish do (and they express their symathy with other countries too, eg the US and in this case, Spain), not the other way around as stated by another poster.

You are correct and I apologize --- I got confused.

Carminha Stalker 08-27-2008 02:52 PM

What a sad time for Spanish people. Fortunately, they have very able and compassionate rulers, including its RF to be there when they are suffering.

crm2317 08-27-2008 03:10 PM

What a heartfelt message from King Harald. Short but to the point. This is perhaps a silly question but why does he sign the letter Harald R?

Mermaid1962 08-27-2008 03:16 PM

"R" is Royal shorthand for "rex", the Latin for "king.":flowers:


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Originally Posted by crm2317 (Post 816292)
What a heartfelt message from King Harald. Short but to the point. This is perhaps a silly question but why does he sign the letter Harald R?


crm2317 08-27-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 816293)
"R" is Royal shorthand for "rex", the Latin for "king.":flowers:

Thanks so much for the answer:flowers:

fanprincipesasturi 08-27-2008 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paty (Post 816265)
The Princes of Asturias will attend on saturday in Canary the Funneral in memorian of the victims.

The "official" funneral will take place on September 11 in Madrid.

Los PrÃ*ncipes asistirán el sábado al funeral por las vÃ*ctimas en Canarias. europapress.es



Los PrÃ*ncipes asistirán el sábado al funeral por las vÃ*ctimas en Canarias. europapress.es
The funeral is predicted for the 18,00 hours and in the cathedral already the preparations have begun. In Madrid, solemn responso by the 154 victims of the accident of airplane of Spanair will finally be celebrated day 11 of September in the Cathedral of the Almudena and not the 1, like was initially predicted, due to the slow rate with whom the bodies are being identified, according to confirmed to Europe Press municipal sources.

Little_star 08-27-2008 06:21 PM

I hope the media has the decency to remember the solemnity of the occasion and not make it all about Letizia's nose.

chuchu 08-27-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Little_star (Post 816348)
I hope the media has the decency to remember the solemnity of the occasion and not make it all about Letizia's nose.

I am sure it will be the hot topic not only for the media but for members of this forum.

Duke of Marmalade 08-28-2008 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chuchu (Post 816358)
I am sure it will be the hot topic not only for the media but for members of this forum.

It's an unlucky coincidence. If casa real was clever they would have arranged an apprearance for the CP couple before Saturday, either "on duty" or "in private", wouldn't be the first time that they do a "staged" appearance = for a purpose (eg showing Leonor in the Fauna park). It would have taken off the heat, everyone getting their picture of Letizia's new nose without swelling and then move on and concentrate on the actual event, the memorial mass. It deserves full attention of everyone.

Paty 08-28-2008 06:04 AM

Lastes news:
It seems that the fenneral expected for this saturday in Canary Island it has been postponed.
The cause is that 26 bodies are still unidentified. In those 26 bodies the DNA tests are not conclusive so now it´s needed dental tests.

lula 09-11-2008 04:06 PM

THE KINGS PRESIDE THE FUNERAL OF STATE IN MEMORY TO 154 VICTIMS OF THE AIR ACCIDENT OF BARAJAS

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lula 09-11-2008 05:11 PM

King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia attend the commemoration for the 154 victims of last month's Spanair jet crash, Spain's worst air accident in 25 years, in Madrid

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The Kings, with the victims of Barajas

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lula 09-17-2008 10:49 AM

Los PrÃ*ncipes de Asturias presiden hoy el funeral por las vÃ*ctimas en Las Palmas de Gran Canaria. europapress.es

The Princes of Asturias preside today at the funeral for the victims in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria

The Princes of Asturias preside today at the funeral for the victims of the accident of the flight JK 5022 of Spanair, where there died a whole of 154 persons, of whom 72 were of Canarias, in the Cathedral of Santa Ana of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, an act to which also there will come the President of Spain, Jose Luis Rodríguez Zapatero and the President of Canarias, Paulino Rivero.
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LadyFinn 09-17-2008 03:48 PM

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lula 09-17-2008 05:04 PM

Funeral mass for the victims of last month's Spanair jet crash which killed 154 people in Madrid, in Las Palmas on the Spanish Canary Islands

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lula 09-17-2008 06:35 PM

Princes of Asturias greet the relatives of the victims after the funeral

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marmi 09-17-2008 07:36 PM

I think that the Spanish royal family have the unfortunate honor of attending the most funerals and solomn events of all the royal families.

LadyFinn 09-18-2008 12:31 AM

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Ccile 09-18-2008 03:55 AM

It's really emotional to see them taking care of those men and women who have lost a member of their family! they take them in their arms! they have a word for each of them!!

Spanish people must be very proud of their royal family!

giov 09-18-2008 05:14 AM

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lula 09-18-2008 08:18 AM

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lula 09-18-2008 08:59 AM

Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia during a funeral mass of the victims of the Spanair plane crash that killed 154 people in August 20, in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria.

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LadyFinn 09-18-2008 03:08 PM

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