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Queen Astrid 11-08-2004 01:36 PM

Juan Carlos Paternity Claims
 
I have a question it may be a dumb one but here goes........does King Jaun Carlos have children out of wedlock or is this just rumours?

Ennyllorac 11-08-2004 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Astrid
I have a question it may be a dumb one but here goes........does King Jaun Carlos have children out of wedlock or is this just rumours?

Though it is rumoured that he has "wandered", I have never heard of him having other children,

Mascha 11-09-2004 04:14 PM

A couple of years ago there was this woman from Paris who claimed she was his daughter. She also said that Maria Gabriela of Saboya (?) was her mother.I don't think they did a DNA test or anything like that so no one can be sure.If I remember correctly her name was La Ruell, or something like that..

Duke of Marmalade 12-12-2014 03:49 PM

Spanish Court to Examine Paternity Claims Against Former Monarch / Sputnik International

Marty91charmed 12-12-2014 03:52 PM

What does this mean? That the might allow the 2 dna tests that were claim in the past?

miramar 01-14-2015 08:17 AM

The Supreme admits one of the paternity lawsuits against Juan Carlos I

Duke of Marmalade 01-14-2015 09:08 AM

Spain court admits paternity suit against ex-king Juan Carlos

its a bit strange because the lady whose case was just admitted and the gentleman whose case was rejected are supposed to be half-brother/sister by a chance of 91%

Bine221 01-14-2015 09:39 AM

Does he still have immunity, as he is still King (whereas no longer the regning king)?
BYe Bine

ROYAL NORWAY 01-14-2015 09:48 AM

Yet another scandal for Juan Carlos, and I expect that there will be more of them.

Duke of Marmalade 01-14-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bine221 (Post 1740769)
Does he still have immunity, as he is still King (whereas no longer the regning king)?
BYe Bine

No, but I understand the surpreme court has to agree beforehand if a law suit can be filed against JC. In case of the woman the court agreed, in case of the man the court did not agree.

lula 01-14-2015 10:40 AM

Duke, on June a reporter spoke to the Belgian geneticist who had made those DNA testing, and accused them of manipulating the analyzes, and said they really were not brother and sister.

El autor de la prueba de ADN a los hijos del Rey desmonta su enga?o - ESD

The Court requires real evidence that there was any relationship between Juan Carlos and mothers (documents, photos, letters ...). Ingrid Sartiau mother went to a notary to pick all the details of her brief affair with Juan Carlos ... and apparently it is this notorial act, what could have done that they accept her complaint.

It really is a very complicated and bizarre story.

Winnie 01-14-2015 12:25 PM

For heaven sake, doesn't Queen Sofia have enough to put up with at this time that she has to have her husband's frequent adultery practices rubbed in her face? I would love to see that sweet good woman take a large well deserved vacation away from Spain with a close "un-royal" friend. A lovely holiday in Australia or Hawaii would do her wonders.

Princess Xenia 01-14-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnie (Post 1740800)
For heaven sake, doesn't Queen Sofia have enough to put up with at this time that she has to have her husband's frequent adultery practices rubbed in her face? I would love to see that sweet good woman take a large well deserved vacation away from Spain with a close "un-royal" friend. A lovely holiday in Australia or Hawaii would do her wonders.


Totally agree with you, Queen Sofía has endured enough.

I always thought that Duchess Fleur of Wurttemberg was his daughter, probably he wandered more.

Marty91charmed 01-14-2015 02:33 PM

If there are doubts on the dna the tests should be remake... And I think that his family has the right to know if those 2 people are his children.... (The man looks like a lot to him BTW)

Sancia 01-14-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lula (Post 1740781)
Duke, on June a reporter spoke to the Belgian geneticist who had made those DNA testing, and accused them of manipulating the analyzes, and said they really were not brother and sister.

El autor de la prueba de ADN a los hijos del Rey desmonta su enga?o - ESD

The Court requires real evidence that there was any relationship between Juan Carlos and mothers (documents, photos, letters ...). Ingrid Sartiau mother went to a notary to pick all the details of her brief affair with Juan Carlos ... and apparently it is this notorial act, what could have done that they accept her complaint.

It really is a very complicated and bizarre story.

I read somewhere the Spanish constitution is unclear about the succession rights of illegitimate children. If an elder illegitimate son can overtake a younger but legitimate son, could one of the clues of the Court decision be that they want to avoid a debate about the possible rights of the gentleman to claim the throne over Felipe?

Winnie 01-14-2015 07:31 PM

Oh well, if that is true and another has a claim to the throne, so be it. It would be 100% the prior king's fault. Fair is only a four letter word.

An Ard Ri 01-16-2015 06:40 PM

The blind younger sister of Juan Carlos,HRH Infanta Margarita was asked by reporters but said '' I cannot comment or say anything "

Hola

La infanta Margarita, sobre la demanda de paternidad de su hermano el Rey: 'Nos ha pillado de sorpresa'

Duc_et_Pair 01-18-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sancia (Post 1740826)
I read somewhere the Spanish constitution is unclear about the succession rights of illegitimate children. If an elder illegitimate son can overtake a younger but legitimate son, could one of the clues of the Court decision be that they want to avoid a debate about the possible rights of the gentleman to claim the throne over Felipe?

The succession is about the legitimate descendants of Don Juan Carlos de Borbón y Borbón, so there is no chance that persons born outside his legal marriage with Princess Sophia of Greece and Denmark have any right.

The fact that anyone who marries against the approval of the King and the Cortes is excluded from the succession, including any of his/her descendants (Art. 57.4 de la Constitución española) learns that the lawmaker has it all set up in the framework of a legal and approved marriage.

:flowers:

zarat 01-22-2015 04:30 AM

An article from daily mail about alleged illegitime daughter of king JC.
EXCLUSIVE - Three nights of passion in a Marbella hotel, a baby hidden from Franco's assassins and surgery to remove the 'Bourbon nose': Fairytale story of woman who claims to be Spanish King's lovechild | Daily Mail Online

Tarlita 01-22-2015 05:06 AM

I can't believe that in this day and age some people would make a claim when it can be so easily disclaimed by DNA testing.


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