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Mandy 06-29-2008 11:20 PM

Royal Death
 



Kings and Queens, Pharaohs and Popes - they die just like everyone else, but their passing is marked by rituals, traditions, and memorials that are unmistakably royal. This article looks at some of the traditions and rituals associated with royal deaths.


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sirhon11234 07-01-2008 10:22 AM

Very interesting article...

The Duchessof Kent's mausoleum is not open to the public right?

BeatrixFan 07-02-2008 01:38 PM

It is for one day each year; St George's Day. The visiting is usually only for a few hours.

Nazma FOURRE 08-09-2008 09:49 PM

Why has the world been depreived from the sight of Diana's face during her burial ceremony? She has been our princess and the princess of the world and strange that we did not have the glimpse of her face for the last time.We have the right to ask, haven't we? It was a royal death and we should have had the priviledge to see our beloved princess for the last time.Following up information, she was gorgeous wearing a long sleeve dress and a flower in her hand.We should have seen her.
Nazma FOURRE

Odette 08-09-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nazma FOURRE (Post 809180)
Why has the world been deprived from the sight of Diana's face before her burial Nazma FOURRE

It was a closed casket. What possible satisfaction could anyone take from seeing a young woman who suffered injuries, laying in a casket?
I do not think anyone was 'deprived" It was funeral that was televised throughout the world. What more did you expect to see?

sirhon11234 08-09-2008 10:24 PM

It should have been a closed casket for Grace as well. I will never forget the image of that beautiful woman lying in a casket. :(

Odette 08-09-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhon11234 (Post 809200)
It should have been a closed casket for Grace as well. I will never forget the image of that beautiful woman lying in a casket. :(

It was awful. I did a double take since I could not believe what I was seeing.........I am all for closed caskets........

sirhon11234 08-09-2008 10:40 PM

It just didn't look like her it was disturbing for me.

Odette 08-09-2008 10:42 PM

I believe she had a wig on. I saw the photos in magazines and newspapers. I agree it was disturbing. Besides we heard she was in an accident and broke a leg and a few houres later they announced she was dead. It was a sad shock.

sirhon11234 08-09-2008 10:50 PM

Was Grace's funeral just like Diana's with the thousands of mourners and televised around the world?

Odette 08-09-2008 10:53 PM

I saw it on TV here in the US. Other posters around the world can help out here. I will never forget their faces, Pr Rainier, Caroline and Albert. Such sadness.

Laurentienne 08-10-2008 02:14 PM

I think it is ok that Princess Diana was in a closed casket. I want to remember her the way I saw her in the media.

I'm not too much into open caskets. I just don't like it. But that is just my opinion. I respect that other people think otherwise.

I mean.....I've seen quite a few people dead, and that does not bother me beside the fact that it is extremely sad when someone is dead. But I still prefer to se a closed casket in a funeral. But I respect it and I go even if the funeral is and the casket is open.

TheTruth 08-10-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nazma FOURRE (Post 809182)
Why has the world been depreived from the sight of Diana's face during her burial ceremony?

I don't get it. Why would it be so important? It's just a body. Her soul was already long gone. She could have been incinerated as well.

I don't like the sight of dead people. I remember seeing the Pope Jean Paul II, lying on a table while many mourners were passing by. I had found it shocking.
I'll always remember JFK's and Marilyn Monroe's face captured by photographers at the morgue. I honestly wish I hadn't seen those shots. It's not them; it's only flesh and bones. I don't see the utility of opening a casket exposing your emotionless, congealed face for the world to see.

sirhon11234 08-10-2008 02:44 PM

JFK's morgue photo was horrifying that picture shouldn't even be viewed by the public. And I didn't even recognize Marilyn in her morgue photo.

The tradition of viewing a loved one's body originated in Scotland I beleive.

Waika 08-10-2008 03:21 PM

I don't like looking at dead bodies either. My grandfather was the last one I looked at back in 1980. Since then, I have refused to do so.

Elspeth 08-10-2008 04:50 PM

In Britain there's no tradition of open caskets like there is in some other countries. What happened at Diana's funeral was typical of the way all funerals, including royal ones, are conducted.

Russophile 08-10-2008 07:02 PM

Having, unfortunately, attended a couple I wished I didn't, I can say in speaking with the funeral director that we have changed a lot as a society. He said viewings used to be the norm, we had one viewing, and one not recently. He said there used to be cars to escort and police to escort and it was a big, big thing. Now not a lot of people want to view (personally, I don't!) and a lot of people don't attend them.
Of course it's different for Royalty. . .

Odette 08-10-2008 10:30 PM

I had the shock of my life when I came to the US and attended a funeral.
Coming from places where the dead are laid to rest before sundown the day of the death with no emballming etc, I could not believe the circus here.
Sentences like......"he/she looks so good".......about the deceased always seemed totally macabre to me.
Anyway, I thought the funniest film related to death was the Irish comedy. "Waking Ned Devine" They almost threw me out of the movie theatre since I was laughing so loud!!!!!!! :cool:

Mermaid1962 08-11-2008 07:34 PM

As strange as it sounds, there's something comforting about seeing a deceased loved one lying out after the funeral director has done his job. I had two deaths in my family within three weeks (a parent and a parent-in-law), and it was nice to see them looking very similar to the way they looked in life. In some cases of violent death or extreme emaciation, of course, it's better to have a closed casket. Usually the casket is closed during the actual funeral where I live, but a person can view the remains during the visitation with the family the day or so before the funeral. Most visitations are in funeral homes now and rarely in private homes.

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 809627)
I had the shock of my life when I came to the US and attended a funeral.
Coming from places where the dead are laid to rest before sundown the day of the death with no emballming etc, I could not believe the circus here.
Sentences like......"he/she looks so good".......about the deceased always seemed totally macabre to me.
Anyway, I thought the funniest film related to death was the Irish comedy. "Waking Ned Devine" They almost threw me out of the movie theatre since I was laughing so loud!!!!!!! :cool:


Odette 08-11-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 810052)
As strange as it sounds, there's something comforting about seeing a deceased loved one lying out after the funeral director has done his job. I had two deaths in my family within three weeks (a parent and a parent-in-law), and it was nice to see them looking very similar to the way they looked in life. In some cases of violent death or extreme emaciation, of course, it's better to have a closed casket. Usually the casket is closed during the actual funeral where I live, but a person can view the remains during the visitation with the family the day or so before the funeral. Most visitations are in funeral homes now and rarely in private homes.

I am so sorry for your loss. It must have been hard.
It is very difficult for me to see someone either close or not laying in a casket. What is even more difficult is the custom in the US to have all the bereaved after the funeral go either to a home or a restaurant and feast on foods the deceased loved. Some say it is a celebration of one's life. I go crazy just thinking that these were crying an hour ago and now ask someone to pass the lasagna tray.............


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