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norwegianne 05-22-2008 11:55 AM

Republic or monarchy?
 
From time to time, the Norwegian political party SV (Socialist Left) raise the question of the Norwegian form of government – or more precisely, the question of monarchy vs. republic. They have it on their party programme that the question shall be raised once every elected term. (If I remember it right):whistling:


This was the case today, where the proposal came up for voting in Stortinget, the Norwegian parliament. 21 representatives voted in favour of changing it, whereas 106 representatives voted against, NTB reports. This is actually a decrease in 22.85% from four years ago, when 26 voted in favour of changing it, and 126 voted against.

Representative Djupedal from SV, pointed out that raising the question is a matter of principle, which has nothing to do with the way the royal family is performing their duties.

If it is up to the elected members of parliament, it seems that the Norwegian monarchy is standing quite strong.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/politikk/article2439042.ece

Thomasine 05-22-2008 04:42 PM

You are correct
 
Yes, you are correct, SV has adopted the vote for republic in their party programme and their Swedish counterpart, Vensterpartiet has done the same.

Both parties enters the motion to abolish the Monarchy every year and I have heard from a friend who works for the government in Sweden that they bet on how many votes the motion gets from other parties.

It is a vaste of time in my opinion.:norwayflag:

norwegianne 05-23-2008 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomasine (Post 769723)
Yes, you are correct, SV has adopted the vote for republic in their party programme and their Swedish counterpart, Vensterpartiet has done the same.

Both parties enters the motion to abolish the Monarchy every year and I have heard from a friend who works for the government in Sweden that they bet on how many votes the motion gets from other parties.

It is a vaste of time in my opinion.:norwayflag:

It's honestly the sort of thing I don't want decided in Stortinget by a select few representatives. They gave us-... (Well, my great grandfathers and their fathers:whistling:) the right to choose which form of government in 1905, and I would like the same right now if the choice came up. .

I have a long list of opinions about SV and Djupedal, but given that it mostly has nothing to do with royalty, it's best to keep quiet. :rolleyes:

Princejohnny25 10-14-2009 11:16 PM

A recent article says that 40percent of Noways Parliament is in favor of a Monarchy? I've been wondering, why is the Monarchy not always viewed so favorably? I like all of the main Royal Family quite a bit but I must say, it does lack some magic. They dont always come across as royals.

Odette 10-15-2009 12:05 PM

:previous: Even when Princess Maud became Queen consort of King Haakon, the Norwegian court was quite low key and unpretentious. They were both true royals. In the current family the only true royal is King Harald. Both the CP and Princess Martha Louise are half commoners.
The next generation will be even more democratic, less royal.
Perhaps the Norwegians will decide in the future that there would be no need for them for a royal family since they would not be royal at all except for the titles...(JMHO):flowers:

Patra 10-15-2009 12:14 PM

Does anyone know how close the vote has EVER gotten to abolish the monarchy? I would be interested in that. Thanks in advance,

Her_Majesty 10-15-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Patra (Post 1005200)
Does anyone know how close the vote has EVER gotten to abolish the monarchy? I would be interested in that. Thanks in advance,

The Norwegian Royal House, the way it is nowadays, is very young.
It was founded in 1905.
I never heard anything about the monarchy being close to be abolished.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princejohnny25
A recent article says that 40percent of Noways Parliament is in favor of a Monarchy?

No, it's the other way round.
4 out of 10 Representatives in Stortinget would rather opt for a Republic. So 60% are pro-monarchy.

(so, it's still more then , for example, in Sweden... there more then 50% of the members of the Parliament opt for a republic).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princejohnny25
it does lack some magic.

Due to it's history the Norwegian monarchy never consisted of pomp and circumstances, like other monarchies (UK for example).
King Haakon was elected by the Norwegian people. He and his successors were always very dopwn-to-earth and never really pompous.
I think that is somehow what makes the Norwegian monarchy.
I always got the feeling that this is what the people in Norway value.

Princejohnny25 10-15-2009 03:10 PM

Your right HM, I met Republic not Monarchy. oops.

I've always wondered if it was the laid back approach that the Norwegian people embraced in the Monarchy. I still feel it could use a bit more mystery. Its that unknown element of the monarchy that makes it alluring. I think the Danish court balances the perfect amount of mystic and openness.
However, I adore Haakon and MM and think they will make a great King and Queen.

lucien 10-15-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Her_Majesty (Post 1005205)
The Norwegian Royal House, the way it is nowadays, is very young.
It was founded in 1905.
I never heard anything about the monarchy being close to be abolished.


No, it's the other way round.
4 out of 10 Representatives in Stortinget would rather opt for a Republic. So 60% are pro-monarchy.

(so, it's still more then , for example, in Sweden... there more then 50% of the members of the Parliament opt for a republic).


Due to it's history the Norwegian monarchy never consisted of pomp and circumstances, like other monarchies (UK for example).
King Haakon was elected by the Norwegian people. He and his successors were always very dopwn-to-earth and never really pompous.
I think that is somehow what makes the Norwegian monarchy.
I always got the feeling that this is what the people in Norway value.

Every time and again.about election time,these poll burbs come-up in Norway,according to Dag Hoelseth on the SRMB.And I believe him.

It's a temporary and traditional hypelike thing popping up every 4 to 8 years or so.
Norway,btw,has the very least reason to complain in this so-called hyped up crisis.
It is such a wealthy country,"filthy rich" would be best to discribe it .The Monarchy has never been,and still isn't,in any serious danger.
Norway can best count it's blessings as it is a steady,prosperous and beautifull piece on the globe.

wartenberg7 10-15-2009 03:30 PM

It's a temporary and traditional hypelike thing popping up every 4 to 8 years or so.
Norway,btw,has the very least reason to complain in this so-called hyped up crisis.
It is such a wealthy country,"filthy rich" would be best to discribe it .The Monarchy has never been,and still isn't,in any serious danger.
Norway can best count it's blessings as it is a steady,prosperous and beautifull piece on the globe.[/QUOTE]



I agree with you! But some staunch republicans keep on using this "too-much-money" theme for their cause, because there are not many other pros for them and itīs a sensitive matter to almost everyone:ermm:

Royal Fan 10-16-2009 12:52 AM

I Say keep it its Symbolic!

RoyalX 10-28-2009 05:05 PM

The Royal House is more than symbolics in Norway. You can't compare it to i.e. Sweden.

Lord Rossmore 12-14-2009 08:56 PM

I Love the fact that the Royal house is young and dynamic, breath of fresh air to the country. Absolutly love Queen Sonja and Princess Mette Marit. They get what the people want and feel


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