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Kezza 04-26-2008 06:21 AM

Good Prince and Bad Prince
 
Just reading an article in the Adelaide Advertiser about Prince's William and Harry. The article stated that a few years ago that the general public saw William as the responsible and sensible one. While Harry was viewed as the reckless one.

But now the general public see it the other way round, that William is the bad one, because of the chopper incident as being spoilt. While Harry is seen in a more positive light by the general public, because he went to Afghanistan, and is seen to eager to serve is country again.

kimebear 04-26-2008 11:20 AM

The next week there will be a report about Harry falling flat on his face outside a brothel while William was in church singing with a choir. The press just loves to play these two off of each other. William will always come under more scrutiny as the "heir" and Harry will always be seen as trying to overcome his second class ranking as the "spare". One minute they will be overindulged wastrals, the next they will be Diana's poor boys. We don't really know who they are, and it might be a bit too soon to see what they are going to contribute to the House of Windsor. Until then, we will be deluged with the Wills v Harry sop.

Mermaid1962 04-26-2008 11:14 PM

Yes, I think that this is true. Remember "Good Diana" and "Bad Fergie"? Or "Family-Man Charles" and "Playboy Andrew"?


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Originally Posted by kimebear (Post 758843)
The press just loves to play these two off of each other. William will always come under more scrutiny as the "heir" and Harry will always be seen as trying to overcome his second class ranking as the "spare". One minute they will be overindulged wastrals, the next they will be Diana's poor boys. We don't really know who they are, and it might be a bit too soon to see what they are going to contribute to the House of Windsor. Until then, we will be deluged with the Wills v Harry sop.


Russophile 04-27-2008 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 758998)
"Playboy Andrew"?

I remember "Randy Andy" with the Koo Stark thing.
They are young. They do stupid things. I'm glad they are getting it out of their systems before they ascend the throne and take on major/more royal duties!

tinkerbell1948 04-27-2008 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Russophile (Post 759018)
I remember "Randy Andy" with the Koo Stark thing.
They are young. They do stupid things. I'm glad they are getting it out of their systems before they ascend the throne and take on major/more royal duties!

They thought that no way was she suitable as a Royal bride but I admire her, she has kept quiet all these years, hasn't sold the story out to the tabloids or written a book about their time together

Charlotte1 04-27-2008 02:12 AM

It goes even further back, in the 1930's it was 'good and responsible' Princess Elizabeth and 'naughty' Princess Margaret Rose.

Isana 04-27-2008 05:22 AM

I agree it's always been like that and not only with the House of Windsor either. In Sweden it's the same with "Party Princess" Madeleine and responsible hard-working Victoria.
Thatīs just the way the press works. There will come a time again when Harry is seen as the "bad one", since he's bound to make a mistake eventually (he's only human) and William will be the "good one" once more. I don't know whether William will be deployed to some conflict region but if he is, I'm sure that'll restore his image the same way it did with Harry. In a way Harry is lucky that he's been regarded the "bad Prince" for so long since it's much easier to work your way up from a negative image (as the recent weeks have shown) than to live up to the high expectations people have for an heir.

atina 04-27-2008 10:17 AM

Harry is not the heir, so therefore he can do those things that now is turning him into a hero.
If William was not the heir, he could have gone to Afganistan and Africa and done things he liked to do. He would easily be a hero then, wouldn't he. But he can't.
I'm sure Harry knows this. And most thinking people will understand this and protest when the press make one of them a hero and the other a villain.

Skydragon 04-27-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by atina (Post 759112)
Harry is not the heir, so therefore he can do those things that now is turning him into a hero.
If William was not the heir, he could have gone to Afganistan and Africa and done things he liked to do. He would easily be a hero then, wouldn't he. But he can't.
I'm sure Harry knows this. And most thinking people will understand this and protest when the press make one of them a hero and the other a villain.

What did Harry do to warrant the title "HERO". He went to a war zone like thousands of US, UK, Canadian, Australian etc troops. You only earn the title of Hero if you have put your life on the line to save others, so lets not get carried away! :rolleyes:

Both William and Harry come across as spoiled rich kids, so I don't think one is good and the other bad, both are just over indulged and have come to expect it.:ohmy:

ghost_night554 04-27-2008 04:38 PM

Well Harry has acknowledged that he's no hero, it was the press giving him the title after news broke of him being in Afganistan.

Russophile 04-28-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon (Post 759189)

Both William and Harry come across as spoiled rich kids, so I don't think one is good and the other bad, both are just over indulged and have come to expect it.:ohmy:

They do, but Harry DID go over, regardless if it were a short trip, which is more than a lot of kids in the US would do these days!! And HUZZAH to all our brave men and women in uniform whatever nationality they may be!!! :americaneagle::fireworks:

indian princess 04-29-2008 01:26 AM

to me they're both spoiled brats....what the hell did harry exactly do that gave him the tite hero???? he hasn't saved anyone else's life by risking his or anything....even now when he's back all we see are pictures of him in nightclubs or off for another holiday with that equaly spoiled girfriend of his....

kpusa1981 04-29-2008 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by indian princess (Post 759713)
to me they're both spoiled brats....what the hell did harry exactly do that gave him the tite hero???? he hasn't saved anyone else's life by risking his or anything....even now when he's back all we see are pictures of him in nightclubs or off for another holiday with that equaly spoiled girfriend of his....

I agree but I also disagree. you really do not know a lot about what he did when he in the war zone. He has been home in England know for about a month. He had his leave after and spent it the way he wanted to during his R&R. Now he is back to his regular duties.How many times besides the stag party has he been out partying?

Russophile 04-29-2008 07:05 PM

I just sent my son back to Khandahar today. On his leave he partied a lot because they don't allow alcohol over there. I can't begrudge him that.
I think Harry would still be over there if there weren't a treasonous breech of the media.

Kezza 04-29-2008 07:44 PM

Prince William will be seen as a good Prince now he has visited the troops in Afghanastan.

Skydragon 04-30-2008 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kezza (Post 760068)
Prince William will be seen as a good Prince now he has visited the troops in Afghanistan.

I think a lot of people will see it as a cynical ploy to take their minds off the joy rides. :flowers:

MARG 04-30-2008 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon (Post 760138)
I think a lot of people will see it as a cynical ploy to take their minds off the joy rides. :flowers:

I agree. As long as he went on a scheduled flight I think "The Troops" will probably be be happy that he just went!

Myself, I hope that any inadequacies that Harry or William see or hear about are likely to at least be raised again in MOD quarters if only because they want to be "seen" to be doing something.

When the Lord gives you lemons, make lemonade! And William, Harry and the War at least makes it on the front page. Working on the trickle down effect perhaps some small thing might change for the better for our troops in the theatre of war. :flowers:

Kezza 04-30-2008 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon (Post 760138)
I think a lot of people will see it as a cynical ploy to take their minds off the joy rides. :flowers:

I forgot to add a :rolleyes: with my statement. I agree it does look a ploy to make William look good.

friendroyal 04-30-2008 02:58 PM

anything to make william look good

LadyCat 04-30-2008 06:14 PM

We are a cynical lot aren't we?:whistling: I think the "good" and "bad" label is going a bit far. These two young men are human and as humans they are going to make mistakes. Unfortunately the mistakes they make usually end up on the front page and make national, even worldwide news. At that age can any of us claim to have been much wiser?

Cat


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