Greek Royal Orders
Can anybody tell me which orders were given out during the rign of both Constantine and his father Pavlos I and to whom?
Is there any order Constantine can give out to his family members or relations? Or is the Greek president the only one who can hand out orders? |
I would be surprised if Constantine can still give out orders. It seems like the Greeks stripped him nearly everything when they abolished the monarchy.
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Order of the Redeemer (Grand Cross, Grand Commander, Commander, Gold Cross and Silver Cross) Order of Honour (also 5 classes) Order of the Phoenix (5 classes) Order of Beneficence (5 classes) The Order of Honour was introduced in 1975 to replace the Order of George I, which is now defunct. The Order of George I, originally created in 1915 by King Constantine I, was first abolished in the 1920s, during the First Hellenic Republic, at which point the Order of the Phoenix was created. Upon the restoration of the Monarchy, in 1935, the Order of George I was re-instated. Theoretically, kings who were deposed but did not abdicate, could continue granting family orders. |
Greek Royal Orders
King Constantine could only give out the Royal Order of St. George & St. Constantine, that is the Greek Royal Family Order. He has given it to Mr. Carlos Morales and also has given the Greek Royal Family Order of St. Olga & St. Sofia to Princess Marie Chantal.
The King could grant to anyone he wants the Greek Royal Family Order of St. George & St. Constanrine to men and the Royal Order of St. Olga & St. Sofia to women. During the reign of King Paul I and King Constantine II, all the Orders of the Greek Kingdom were granted to Military and Civils. See this PDF with the Greek Orders: http://www.greekroyalfamily.gr/asset...RS%20(ENG).pdf |
Thanks a lot. So Constantine can still give out the family orders, but not the other ones. I haven't had a chance to look at the link posted yet but did Constantine ever confer an order to another head of state?
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What about Prince Nikolaos? He wears the Redeemer - did he received it when he was born, in 1969 (although in exile, but The King being the de facto and de jure Head of State) or when he turned 18? If so, The King can also award the "royal version" of this Order. |
physical and may order, is still king, and it is no secret,he can rull from far away the situation.
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Royal Orders are a family matter in most royal famillies. Indeed, only the President of The Hellenic Republic can now give orders, and King Constantine can give the family orders.
King Constantine also visited the USA in the summer of 1968 and met with President Johnson, there for isn't true that he did't make visits to foreign Head of states. |
Constantine can give the Orders that historically had haven relation with the Greek monarchy, but it has not same value that the Orders granted by President of Republic, this have value political, are granted by the Greek State, represented by the President.
The orders granted by Former King has not same political value, it can have value for the monarchies |
In addition to what BELTRANEJA said, i must say that some orders of the Greek Monarchy, are still given from the President, such as are the Order of the Redeemer (Grand Cross, Grand Commander, Commander, Gold Cross and Silver Cross), Order of the Phoenix (5 classes) and Order of Beneficence (5 classes).
Those are all the same as in the Monarchy, but have no Crown on the medal. |
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The list of State visits to the USA between 1966 - 1968 does not mention one by the Head of the State of Greece. But King Constantine did visit the USA in 1967. |
Queen Sofia and Greek Royal Orders
Queen Sofia also has Greek royal orders, but she doesn't seem to wear them. In fact, from when she became a Queen she only wore then once in a formal event . I was when K.Karlamanlis visited Spain for the first time in the 80's. Well , the Queen had worn a marvellous dress, her most impressive tiara and jewellery and was proudly wearing her Greek Orders. Just to remind to him about what he owned to the palace and her parents.... You know , I have always wondered what colour was Karamanlis face when he actually realised it!:rofl:
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I think the Greek Royals also hold Danish titles and passports.......
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Greek Royal Order
My grandfather left me his Greek Royal Order of George 1. I would like to find out when it was given to him and by whom.
Does the Greek government keep records of this? |
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There's a Greek Consulate General located in San Francisco. Why not give them a call or pay a visit? They would be best-placed to advise you on accessing information held in the government archives. |
I found thisclose up photo from Alexia's baptism and suddenly realised that the "ribbon" I had seen on other pictures is actually the Order of St Olga and St Sophia
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...tro/alexia.jpg Couls someone explain to me if this was a tradition of the GRF to give orders at baptism? and why would they do it? I mean, a prince/ princess doens't usually use orders until he comes of age, so what's the point of granting one to a baby? |
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