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monchichi 01-19-2008 07:51 PM

Marriage Customs of the Ruling Family
 
Who is Sheikha Manal married to?
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Originally Posted by miss b (Post 718572)
i agree with all of the comments regarding sheikha hind being the "official" wife of sheikh mohammed. i lived in abu dhabi for a period of time. princess haya AND sheikha manal are not accepted in their new roles. the old guard favors hind. i think they resent manal because she is not full emerati.


zabeel123 01-19-2008 07:57 PM

i beleive she is married to shk mansour from al nayhan...

monchichi 01-19-2008 08:19 PM

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Arenīt they a newlywed couple? If so, why isnīt she accepted in her new role?

There is a another story With Haya, but I donīt understand why Sheikha Manal isnīt accepted...

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Originally Posted by dana8585 (Post 718585)
i beleive she is married to shk mansour from al nayhan...


miss b 01-19-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by monchichi (Post 718601)
Arenīt they a newlywed couple? If so, why isnīt she accepted in her new role?

There is a another story With Haya, but I donīt understand why Sheikha Manal isnīt accepted...

my understanding is that the old guard in UAE do not accept manal because her mother is not from the uae. sheikh mansour's first wife is from a respected, old established family in abu dhabi.

dazzling 01-20-2008 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by miss b (Post 718673)
sheikh mansour's first wife is from a respected, old established family in abu dhabi.

His first wife is a far related cousin.

Turkish Delight 01-20-2008 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monchichi (Post 718601)
Arenīt they a newlywed couple? If so, why isnīt she accepted in her new role?

There is a another story With Haya, but I donīt understand why Sheikha Manal isnīt accepted...

Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed is not married Manal.

HE IS MARRIED TO SHEIKH MOHAMMED IS DAUGHTER.

AND MANAL IS NOT FULL EMİRATİ SHE İS %50 Lebanese.

and thanks miss b and maryamii...

maryamii 01-20-2008 05:07 AM

sh,mansour bin zayed is married to sh.manal bint mohammed al maktoum..and she is well respected becoz she is sh.mohammeds daughter..
she has now 2 kids from him..sh.fatima bint mansour and sh.mohammed bin mansour.

Turkish Delight 01-20-2008 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by maryamii (Post 718727)
sh,mansour bin zayed is married to sh.manal bint mohammed al maktoum..and she is well respected becoz she is sh.mohammeds daughter..
she has now 2 kids from him..sh.fatima bint mansour and sh.mohammed bin mansour.

Of course Manal is well respected but,Sheikh Mansour's first wife Sheikha Alia is more well respected because she is %100 Emirati.Manal is %50 Lebanese.
People in Abu Dhabi accept to Sheikha Alia.

maryamii 01-20-2008 05:50 AM

well as far as i kno tht sh.manal is also loved coz shezz sh.mohammeds first daughter and + sh.manal is in the orgnization with.sh.fatima bnt mubarak..the mother of emarates..i mean they work like togather in the women thngy!!

Humera 01-24-2008 09:58 PM

We've already had to make warnings in the past against members repeating second-hand "information" regarding the marriages of Sheikh Muhammad's children.
Unless you can back up your claims with credible published reports, please refrain from repeating gossip you may have heard from family and friends or read on other forums.
Further posts peddling such rumours will be deleted without notice.

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Turkish Delight 01-25-2008 08:43 AM

Hello Royal Friend.I thought your this comment very much and I am complicated about somethings.Sorry for answering late but I had to think.

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Originally Posted by Royal Friend (Post 712675)
Actually, this is something which I believe can be discussed here. In the early days of the UAE (70s and 80s), back when Sharjah was actually the "hot" city, not Dubai, many of the Sheikhs took non Emirati wives.

I don't know if Sharjah was hot city before in 70s and 80s.Which Sheiks took non-Emirati wifes?See that Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid is married to his cousin Sheikha Roda.Do you mean that like Sheikh Mohammed?His first wife was Manal's mother.

Over the past ten years, promulgated by Sheikh Zayed himself, there has been a push for Emiratis to marry Emiratis. This has been published from time to time in the news papers, both Arabic and English.

He has a point in that because Emirates has still not a big population but I think Emiratis people have to marry with a love ,not without love.(Like now)

In many cases, the Emirates, due to the small size of it's national population, is a country in which the people follow what they see within the ruling families. So, in today's world, it will be very difficult for a prominent sheikh or even businessman, to take for his first wife someone who is not Emirati.

What did ruling families do?You mean firstly marry with non-Emirati wifes?
I don't understand if they want to big population ,firstly they have to accept to marry with a love and not to marry with non-Emirati wifes.Why did they marry with non-Emirati wifes if they want a big population?

And when an individual is from a ruling family, arranged, or family decided, marriages are still the norm. These days, this is done mainly to strengthen ties between the families.

How could it be?This is very complicated.Sheikh Zayed just wanted Emiratis marry to Emiratis.Did he want to marry cousin from all Emiratis?Did Emirati people misunderstand this?and in my country families want to be their children's happiness.In Emirates how people can be happy?If you are not happy how your parents feel?Is is a bad destiny?


I am sorry for all Emiratis.
Hamdan's first wife will be from the UAE but if he doesn't accept this what will be?

Royal Friend 01-26-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Turkish Delight (Post 721269)
Hello Royal Friend.I thought your this comment very much and I am complicated about somethings.Sorry for answering late but I had to think.


How could it be?This is very complicated.Sheikh Zayed just wanted Emiratis marry to Emiratis.Did he want to marry cousin from all Emiratis?Did Emirati people misunderstand this?and in my country families want to be their children's happiness.In Emirates how people can be happy?If you are not happy how your parents feel?Is is a bad destiny?


I am sorry for all Emiratis.
Hamdan's first wife will be from the UAE but if he doesn't accept this what will be?

I'm not sure I understand all your questions but I will try to answer the best I can.

With regard to the first around many Sheikhs taking non Emirati wives back in the "early days". Don't forget we are not just talking about the dominent and sheikhs in the press today but the hundreds of sheikhs across the whole of the country. And in this matter, one must also include the very prominent men in the various Emirates who are not Sheikhs. So relatively speaking, a large population compared to the remaining National population in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s when the UAE was becoming the country it is today.

There are many in across the region, not just the UAE, who marry for love as the West sees "love", but family arranged marriages are still very common. Especially amongst the prominent. Heck, with Western divorce rates at such high levels, who's to say some family "influence" isn't the way to go?

You missed my point in the third paragraph. My point is that the Emirati population is relatively small (~20% of total UAE population) at around 1m. It wasn't many years ago it was 400,000. Anyway, my point was that Emiratis emulate their leaders in many ways, partially due to their respect of them. Thus, if the leaders tend to marry other Emiratis, the masses will follow.

Finally, in many parts of the world where the family comes first, making the family happy is what makes the individual happy. I was just talking with a good friend of mine who is distantly part of the ruling family. His father has just died and thus he must take over as head of household. And now extreme pressure to marry quickly and with someone approved by the rest of the family.

Not all Emiratis of course follow the above and everyone can find exceptions. But I'm speaking of norms, especially over time.

Hope this helps.

RF

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 05:15 AM

if hamdan or rashid married any lady from the public and she is 100% emiraty she still can be first lady and an official wife !!

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 06:13 AM

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this shiekh nasser sheikha bint mohammed (future husband)

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 07:41 AM

How old is Sheikha?are they engaged?

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 07:47 AM

she is 15 yes they r enggaged

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 08:01 AM

isn't she little?
 
Don't misunderstand me dubai-girl but isn't she little for engagement?:eek:Just 15 years old.:eek:

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 08:05 AM

no she is not
but if she is okay with it
its fine her father wont say yes only when he knows that he is one of a kind

(she was enggaged since she was 12)

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dubai-girl (Post 721685)
no she is not
but if she is okay with it
its fine her father wont say yes only when he knows that he is one of a kind

(she was enggaged since she was 12)

Since 12....:wacko:
Sorry dubai-girl but I think she is very little for this.I am respectful to the culture but she is very very little.:sad:
Because in my country and lots of country in the world allowing to get married at the age of 18 and also in my country people prefer to marry at the age of 24.;)
So, I am surprised when I heard this.:shock:
Sorry ,but she is really very little in my opinion.:sad:

Her father had to say that ''You are very little for engagement,you have to wait'' I think.:thistle:

I really love all Dubai Royals,but I am sorry for lots of girls...:verysad:

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 08:36 AM

NO she is just engagged

no the uae u r not allowed to get married before 18 (i think that is true)

she not getting married only after she finishes her studying


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