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Turkish Delight 01-20-2008 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by maryamii (Post 718741)
well as far as i kno tht sh.manal is also loved coz shezz sh.mohammeds first daughter and + sh.manal is in the orgnization with.sh.fatima bnt mubarak..the mother of emarates..i mean they work like togather in the women thngy!!


You are right!;) People love Sheikha Manal but they PREFER to Sheikha Alia.;)

Humera 01-24-2008 10:58 PM

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Turkish Delight 01-25-2008 09:43 AM

Hello Royal Friend.I thought your this comment very much and I am complicated about somethings.Sorry for answering late but I had to think.

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Originally Posted by Royal Friend (Post 712675)
Actually, this is something which I believe can be discussed here. In the early days of the UAE (70s and 80s), back when Sharjah was actually the "hot" city, not Dubai, many of the Sheikhs took non Emirati wives.

I don't know if Sharjah was hot city before in 70s and 80s.Which Sheiks took non-Emirati wifes?See that Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid is married to his cousin Sheikha Roda.Do you mean that like Sheikh Mohammed?His first wife was Manal's mother.

Over the past ten years, promulgated by Sheikh Zayed himself, there has been a push for Emiratis to marry Emiratis. This has been published from time to time in the news papers, both Arabic and English.

He has a point in that because Emirates has still not a big population but I think Emiratis people have to marry with a love ,not without love.(Like now)

In many cases, the Emirates, due to the small size of it's national population, is a country in which the people follow what they see within the ruling families. So, in today's world, it will be very difficult for a prominent sheikh or even businessman, to take for his first wife someone who is not Emirati.

What did ruling families do?You mean firstly marry with non-Emirati wifes?
I don't understand if they want to big population ,firstly they have to accept to marry with a love and not to marry with non-Emirati wifes.Why did they marry with non-Emirati wifes if they want a big population?

And when an individual is from a ruling family, arranged, or family decided, marriages are still the norm. These days, this is done mainly to strengthen ties between the families.

How could it be?This is very complicated.Sheikh Zayed just wanted Emiratis marry to Emiratis.Did he want to marry cousin from all Emiratis?Did Emirati people misunderstand this?and in my country families want to be their children's happiness.In Emirates how people can be happy?If you are not happy how your parents feel?Is is a bad destiny?


I am sorry for all Emiratis.
Hamdan's first wife will be from the UAE but if he doesn't accept this what will be?

Royal Friend 01-26-2008 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Turkish Delight (Post 721269)
Hello Royal Friend.I thought your this comment very much and I am complicated about somethings.Sorry for answering late but I had to think.


How could it be?This is very complicated.Sheikh Zayed just wanted Emiratis marry to Emiratis.Did he want to marry cousin from all Emiratis?Did Emirati people misunderstand this?and in my country families want to be their children's happiness.In Emirates how people can be happy?If you are not happy how your parents feel?Is is a bad destiny?


I am sorry for all Emiratis.
Hamdan's first wife will be from the UAE but if he doesn't accept this what will be?

I'm not sure I understand all your questions but I will try to answer the best I can.

With regard to the first around many Sheikhs taking non Emirati wives back in the "early days". Don't forget we are not just talking about the dominent and sheikhs in the press today but the hundreds of sheikhs across the whole of the country. And in this matter, one must also include the very prominent men in the various Emirates who are not Sheikhs. So relatively speaking, a large population compared to the remaining National population in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s when the UAE was becoming the country it is today.

There are many in across the region, not just the UAE, who marry for love as the West sees "love", but family arranged marriages are still very common. Especially amongst the prominent. Heck, with Western divorce rates at such high levels, who's to say some family "influence" isn't the way to go?

You missed my point in the third paragraph. My point is that the Emirati population is relatively small (~20% of total UAE population) at around 1m. It wasn't many years ago it was 400,000. Anyway, my point was that Emiratis emulate their leaders in many ways, partially due to their respect of them. Thus, if the leaders tend to marry other Emiratis, the masses will follow.

Finally, in many parts of the world where the family comes first, making the family happy is what makes the individual happy. I was just talking with a good friend of mine who is distantly part of the ruling family. His father has just died and thus he must take over as head of household. And now extreme pressure to marry quickly and with someone approved by the rest of the family.

Not all Emiratis of course follow the above and everyone can find exceptions. But I'm speaking of norms, especially over time.

Hope this helps.

RF

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 06:15 AM

if hamdan or rashid married any lady from the public and she is 100% emiraty she still can be first lady and an official wife !!

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 07:13 AM

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this shiekh nasser sheikha bint mohammed (future husband)

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 08:41 AM

How old is Sheikha?are they engaged?

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 08:47 AM

she is 15 yes they r enggaged

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 09:01 AM

isn't she little?
 
Don't misunderstand me dubai-girl but isn't she little for engagement?:eek:Just 15 years old.:eek:

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 09:05 AM

no she is not
but if she is okay with it
its fine her father wont say yes only when he knows that he is one of a kind

(she was enggaged since she was 12)

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dubai-girl (Post 721685)
no she is not
but if she is okay with it
its fine her father wont say yes only when he knows that he is one of a kind

(she was enggaged since she was 12)

Since 12....:wacko:
Sorry dubai-girl but I think she is very little for this.I am respectful to the culture but she is very very little.:sad:
Because in my country and lots of country in the world allowing to get married at the age of 18 and also in my country people prefer to marry at the age of 24.;)
So, I am surprised when I heard this.:shock:
Sorry ,but she is really very little in my opinion.:sad:

Her father had to say that ''You are very little for engagement,you have to wait'' I think.:thistle:

I really love all Dubai Royals,but I am sorry for lots of girls...:verysad:

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 09:36 AM

NO she is just engagged

no the uae u r not allowed to get married before 18 (i think that is true)

she not getting married only after she finishes her studying

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dubai-girl (Post 721694)
NO she is just engagged

no the uae u r not allowed to get married before 18 (i think that is true)

she not getting married only after she finishes her studying


Of course she will marry after she finishes her studying but I meant engagement is also NOT good.They can be darling if Dubai culture accept this.Engagement is really different thing.

Now I have questions.
1-Why aren't they prefer to being darling?
2-Doesn't the culture accept this?
3-Is Nasser married?
4-Does Sheikha love him?
5-What did the family of Nasser say about engagement?
6-Didn't Sheikha think that 'Engagement is different,why aren't we being just as a darling '?
7-How old is Nasser?
8-Did Sheikha want to marry?
9-If Sheikha doesn't want to marry in future what will be?

If she is ready for engagement she had to think everything.But I think she is little and didn't think anything.

zabeel123 01-26-2008 11:13 AM

isnt shk nasser from bahrain? maybe i have him confused w someone else. i would think shk mo would want his daughter to marry from UAE.

Turkish Delight 01-26-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dana8585 (Post 721733)
isnt shk nasser from bahrain? maybe i have him confused w someone else. i would think shk mo would want his daughter to marry from UAE.

Sheikh Nasser is from Bahrain.If Sheikh is from the one of gulf countries,Mo can accept.But only gulf countries.;)

Please,can anyone answer my questions?dubai-girl where are you?

dubai-girl 01-26-2008 12:45 PM

question
 
1-Why aren't they prefer to being darling? cause its not accepted in our culture
2-Doesn't the culture accept this? it answered it on the top
3-Is Nasser married? no
4-Does Sheikha love him? yes I think
5-What did the family of Nasser say about engagement? they said no first cause they were both small then he said he wont study aboard only if he is goin to get engagged to her
6-Didn't Sheikha think that 'Engagement is different,why aren't we being just as a darling '? cause its not right in the UAE and even if they r engagged they cant see each other alot
7-How old is Nasser? early 20s
8-Did Sheikha want to marry?she it was okay but not only after she finishs studying
9-If Sheikha doesn't want to marry in future what will be? no she wont say that cause she will grow with the idea that she is going marry nasser

maryamii 01-27-2008 08:04 AM

turkish delight..
tradition in the gulf is in our blood+ sheikha accepted nasser..her parents did not forced her..
in Islam the gurl cannot just be a darling without getting engaged or married..
I think sheikha derserves nasser and whats the problem if they get engaged now or later..its the same..
so from our side..mabrook to sheikha n nasser and inshallah soon they get married:)

dubai-girl 01-27-2008 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dana8585 (Post 721733)
isnt shk nasser from bahrain? maybe i have him confused w someone else. i would think shk mo would want his daughter to marry from UAE.

yes shk nasser is from bahrain

and no shk mohammed has no reason to not let his daughter marry from the UAE shka manals married shk mansoor and he is from the UAE

maryamii 01-27-2008 09:20 AM

In olden days many ladies used to marry at early age..
but here sheikha is only engaged...they both love each other..
Islam does not accept darling and bf n gf stuffs coz its not ryt

my best wishes to the future husband n wife:P

lindsey alana 02-14-2008 06:04 PM

hi this is my first post
i was just wondering if the maktoum men have to have more than 1 wife


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