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frafel 03-07-2006 02:20 AM

Queen Elizabeth II: Tiaras, Necklaces etc 2: November 2007-
 
Welcome to Queen Elizabeth II's Tiaras and Necklaces part 2

Part 1 can be found here.


A Queen Mary Stomacher - 2002

The stomacher and necklace are today part of Queen Elizabeth II's massive jewelry collection and are probably collecting dust alongside other magnificent pieces of jewelry in the vaults of Buckingham Palace. The stomacher, now out of fashion, was one of several dozen pieces of jewellery that Queen Elizabeth inherited from her grandmother Queen Mary.


Here Queen Elizabeth II is wearing one of the stomachers that belonged to Queen Mary. Queen Elizabeth recieved it as a wedding gift in 1947, and she wore it here for the first time during a dinner for the other monarchs of europe to celebrate her golden jubilee in 2002.
To think of the treasure-trove of what Queen Elizabeth has tucked in her vaults... there are so many pieces of jewellery that have been acquired over the years and which have never been worn or have not been seen for so long. One time she was quoted as saying "We have too much already", when she was being presented a piece of jewelry as a gift.

noldorlord 11-28-2007 10:43 PM

Dismantled jewels
 
I have only seen this tiara worn twice, it has been written that the tiara was dismantled (only the 3 roses are left) I do not know if this is correct, dose anyone know for sure?

http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen/nizam-of-hyderabad.htm

"Nizam of Hyderabad Parure is a important Diamond-Necklace and Tiara. It was a present of the Nizam of Hyderabad to the Queen of England.
This wonderful tiara does not exist anymore. The tiara was, together with a necklace given to HM The Queen by the Nizam of Hyberabad as a coronation-gift. Made by Cartier and later broken up to be used in new setting, in the Burmese Ruby Rose Tiara, made by Court jeweller Garrard."

jcbcode99 11-29-2007 12:46 AM

I'm not sure if it was dismantled; if I recall the roses were detachable and could be worn as brooches. I thought the Queen wore the Nizam of Hyderabad tiara fairly often when she was younger. Regardless, the necklace is still very much intact and I think that the tiara may well be intact, just not worn. Looking at it, it looks like it may be difficult to take the stones out of. It may be dismantled, but in Munn gives no indication that it no longer exists.

Warren 11-29-2007 06:24 AM

This question has been discussed at length here and elsewhere. There are two opposing views: Leslie Field in "The Jewels of Queen Elizabeth II" (1992) states that the Nizam was broken up to make the modern Burmese Ruby Tiara; Geoffrey Munn in his magnum opus "Tiaras - A History of Splendour" (2001) states that the Nizam remains intact.
That's all anyone knows, so take your pick. :smile:

GillW 11-29-2007 08:18 AM

Whatever the current status of the remainder of the frame, all 3 rose motif brooches still exist and have been worn by QEII in recent years. The smaller pair (I call them the Lesser Nizam Roses) were worn last as far as I can tell, on 30 June 2006 at the re-opening of the Commonwealth Society. The "Greater Nizam Rose" has appeared twice this year, and a total of 26 times in the database I have compiled so far (normally at least 2/3 times per year)

jcbcode99 11-29-2007 12:09 PM

So, my question is this--if you're going to dismantle a piece, why not dismantle the whole thing? It doesn't make sense to take everything but the brooches apart, does it? There wouldn't be enough stones. And, the Queen seemed to really like this piece. I do think she doesn't wear it anymore because it is a little dated--it has the fifties thing going on and looked good with those hairstyles--but I don't see the Queen tearing up a piece of a set of jewels (tiara and necklace). It doesn't seem like her style.

mrswhitham 11-29-2007 10:02 PM

Does anyone know of a website that has pictures of all of Queen Elizabeth's tiaras?

noldorlord 11-30-2007 12:54 AM

Try these
Tiaras - V&A Exhibition
The Royal Collection - Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother's 'White ...
QUEEN MOTHERS JUWEL CASKET | TIARA
The Royal Collection - Welcome to the Royal Collection Online
ViewImages.com - Home

Warren 11-30-2007 01:12 AM

There is no single website that shows all of the Queen's known tiaras because of the copyright law. However, this forum probably covers all those that we know of.

Check out these threads:

Queen Elizabeth Jewellery 1
Queen Elizabeth Tiaras and Necklaces
Duchess of Cornwall Jewellery
Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother Jewellery
Royal Ruby Jewellery
Floral and Wreath Tiaras
British Crown Jewels
Princess Margaret Jewels
British Royal Jewels of the Past

noldorlord 12-02-2007 08:47 PM

Thanks Warren some good sites a pity that others have shut down.

andrew 01-02-2008 07:42 AM

I've found a picture of Queen Elizabeth wearing a bracelet that very resembles one of Queen Mary's chokers.

Here's it in bracelet form

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/75469950.jpg

and here's the original, as a choker

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a.../QueenMary.jpg


We know that another choker of QM was shortened and worn by QEQM as a bracelet

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a.../NPK001081.jpg

And I'm wondering about this bracelet, too..
It is quite wide...could this have been another chocker, too..?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...rewcs/Nov6.jpg

jcbcode99 01-03-2008 10:16 AM

At first glance it looks like Prince Phillip's engagement gift to Princess Elizabeth, created from stones that were once set in a tiara of his mother's. But, in all truth, that photo isn't helping me because I can't really see the design that well.
It could also be the diamond link bracelet, which was a choker of Queen Mary's that was comprised of two pieces and could be worn as either choker or necklace. The Queen inherited it in 1953 when Queen Mary passed away--but after looking in some of my books I don't think HM is wearing this bracelet in this photo, so I think it is the engagement bracelet--but I may very well be wrong--but I would wager that Warren will know!

noldorlord 01-30-2008 02:51 AM

Dose any one have any bettter photos of the Greville necklace? this is all I have and a not so good one of when QM went to the Queen of denmarks wedding.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...emeraldmum.jpg

andrew 02-01-2008 12:16 PM

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Here are two pictures with Mr. Chirac and one from a different occasion, where Her Majesty was wearing the Godman necklace:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...14_POLFOTO.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...rewcs/jmjm.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...nVictorias.jpg

The pictures are from corbis and polfoto

Thomas Parkman 02-01-2008 03:28 PM

Thank you so much for the pictures of the Godman necklace. It is magnificent and with the Prnicess Vladimir tiara with the Cambridge emeralds it is just wonderful. The queen in glasses and emeralds is priceless!!!! As for the current President de la Republique Francaise, Lord help us and the poor queen. The man is a vulgarian beyond belief. Besides his socialist opponent would have been able to wear a few goodies of her own and all would have gilttered indeed. Now we must worry is the Presiden't "item" shows up with him and spoils everything.

jcbcode99 02-15-2008 02:11 PM

Speaking of the Vladmir tiara--when was the last time it was seen with the emerald drops? My recent memory can recall pearls and the tiara without drops--but I cannot recall when Her Majesty wore it with the emeralds--a pity, because the emeralds are the best (in my opinion) version of the piece.

joek515 02-15-2008 02:17 PM

Can someone please tell me about this neclace the Queen wore at a banquet in Nigeria in 2003? Are there any better pictures of it?
Thanks alot
http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t...15-5041661.jpg

le soleil 02-16-2008 08:32 AM

she is so beautiful in the banquet in nigeria...nice jewels but the smile its the best!

andrew 02-16-2008 08:49 AM

Here are some extra pictures of the demi-parure. It may be a gift, Arab, I guess...
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...wcs/523092.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...wcs/523982.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...wcs/523090.jpg
Photos from ANP agency

colynsmomma 03-17-2008 02:10 AM

This question has probley been answered but I can not find it anywhere. What happened to Queen Victoria emerald tiara and her sapphire tiara? I would love to see these pieces.


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