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norwegianne 12-10-2003 07:28 AM

I have no problem pronouncing it... :innocent: But Norwegian and Dutch are similar in a lot of aspects.

It would've been harder to pronounce it Amelia, for me... But again, it's the Dutch who're going to be doing the pronouncing.

samitude 12-10-2003 12:26 PM

I heard a news reporter pronounce her name from a dutch webcast. She pronounced it Ah-mah-lee-yah.

Helena 12-10-2003 12:51 PM

the names arent new (the little daughter of the prime minister is called Amélie for example), but not very common either. In dutch we have no problems with the number of 'a'in the name, easy to pronounce. Catharina is also a name used in many different forms, Kaatje, Kathariena Katrien (Donald Duck's girlfriend is called this way in dutch). Arina, etc etc. My tennants wife remarked that it is to awful that they called their daughter Catherine because she was sure that everybody would call hetb 'Kat' = a cat & a word used in dutch for women who are a little 'bitchy'. But with Amalia we will not have that problem of course ;)

Alexandria 12-10-2003 12:53 PM

I think Amalia is pronounced Ah-mah-lee-ah, too. The first attempt at pronounciating the name adds an 'R' to the name and there isn't one.

If it is a Dutch variation of the name Ameila, then instead of Ah-meal-ee-ah, it would be Ah-mah-lee-ah, as Samitude suggested.

Alexandria 12-10-2003 12:56 PM

When Willem announced the names of his daughter, did he explain why the name Catharina-Amalia was chosen? Like when Phillippe of Beligum announced the name of his son Gabriel, he said that he and Mathilde had chosen it because of its Hebrew meaning and that it was found in three different religions.

I know now why Beatrix and Carmen were chosen, but the first name and Victoria? I am curious about that.

maty 12-10-2003 01:09 PM

Actually, I really really like baby Amalia's name, since my real name is María Amalia. :P
But I didn't know that Amalia was a name used in the Netherlands, because it's more common in spanish speaking countries (I'm from Costa Rica).

Anyway, congratulations to lovely princess Máxima and to prince Willem-Alexander for the birth of their cute little princess Catharina-Amalia (I just love that name!!! ;) )


samitude 12-10-2003 02:48 PM

I believe he said they were advised on the names. They liked Victoria because it means "victorious" or "victor".

The Watcher 12-10-2003 03:18 PM

Catharina and Amalia are names of members of the family in the past. Catharina is the name of the daughter of Willem of Orange. And Maxima and Willem-Alexander both like the names. Willem Alexander told that he and Maxima like the name Catharina-Amalia more than Amalia-Catharina. It sounds better...Catharina-Amalia. And Victoria is chosen because of the meaning of the name. Victory in the end of the name. :flower:

I find it beautiful names, Catharina-Amalia Beatrix Carmen Victoria :woot:

royal_sophietje 12-10-2003 03:32 PM


Originally posted by samitude@Dec 10th, 2003 - 7:48 pm
I believe he said they were advised on the names. They liked Victoria because it means "victorious" or "victor".
They weren't advised.

Alexandria 12-10-2003 03:55 PM

If they were advised, who would do the advising? A court historian? A name expert?

The Watcher 12-10-2003 04:30 PM

Willem-Alexander studied history and because of his position, he is a court historian himself :P

But no, they have chosen the names by themself. B)

Alexandra 12-10-2003 04:49 PM


Originally posted by norwegianne@Dec 10th, 2003 - 1:28 pm
I have no problem pronouncing it... :innocent: But Norwegian and Dutch are similar in a lot of aspects.

It would've been harder to pronounce it Amelia, for me... But again, it's the Dutch who're going to be doing the pronouncing.

:flower: I agree completely with you. :flower:

It is the same in Finnish and Swedish as in Norwegian, you pronounce those names (and other words, too) in most cases just so as they are written. Amelia would have been for me much more difficult to pronounce as Amalia. But so it is always with the different languages. English, when written the way as it sounds in our ears, would not seem at all the same language as written in English.
:P An example: In English "How do you do" sounds in my language like "hau du juu duu" :P

The Watcher 12-11-2003 11:50 AM

Pic: This is a tradition.... :flower:

karolinabraganza 12-11-2003 12:11 PM

doesnt this look rather...ugly? is this really the official coin or did someone do artwork at home on the pc??

also: people complain about the fact that nobody saw until now. i was wondering: both sons of princess margerete appeared with their daughters and son in public carrying the baby on this baptism-like cloth that also amalia was presented on. also constantin did this. is this a tradition?

Alexandria 12-11-2003 12:20 PM

I don't remember Constantijn doing it with Eloise. The pictures I remember being released of Eloise's birth were ones taken in a honey-coloured room, and there was a series of them, including one of baby with Constantijn, baby with both parents, baby with Queen Beatrix and one in which Prince Claus is holding his granddaughter. I don't remember one of Constantijn and baby in a long white gown and presenting Eloise to the press the way Willem did.

The Watcher 12-11-2003 12:45 PM

Sorry, Dutch!
But it is going about Amalia and Gabriel(Belgium). It is still not possible for them to marry :P The government of Belgium have to change the constitution to make a marriage possible. :wacko:

Amalia kan niet trouwen met Gabriel
Belgisch-Nederlands koningshuwelijk ligt ingewikkeld

Het toekomstige huwelijk van het enkele dagen oude prinsesje Catharina-Amalia en het Belgische prinsje Gabriel houdt de gemoederen van juristen al danig bezig. De Belgen kondigden kort na de geboorte aan dat ze een eeuwenoude wet wilden schrappen die een huwelijk tussen leden van het Belgische en Nederlandse koningshuis verbiedt. Maar dat gaat zomaar niet, aldus de deskundigen.

De Belgische Raad van State heeft ontdekt dat het verbod alleen met een grondwetsprocedure kan worden aangepakt, schrijft dagblad De Standaard. Dat betekent dat op zijn vroegst de volgende regering van België er over kan beslissen. Bovendien is in het parlement een tweederde meerderheid nodig.

Het verbod stamt uit 1830, toen de Belgen zich onafhankelijk van Nederland verklaarden. Het voorlopig bewind was bang dat het land via een koninklijk huwelijk alsnog bij de Nederlanden zou komen te horen.

Veel haast heeft het schrappen van het decreet niet. Er zijn nauwelijks Belgische prinsen en prinsessen op huwbare leeftijd. Wel speculeren sommigen al op een echtverbintenis tussen Amalia en Gabriel, het tweede kind van de Belgische kroonprins Filip dat eveneens nog in de wieg ligt.

Lady Jean 12-11-2003 02:44 PM

Of all outfits they chose to depict on this coin is Maxima's engagement day outfit! It looks silly, especially w/her holding the baby.

I love the other side of the coin w/the monogram.

Poppy 12-12-2003 06:17 AM

So there are not yet new photos of Maxima after the birth of the princess??

monaco70s 12-12-2003 10:58 AM

Do you think they're somehow planning marrying Gabriel and Catharina-Amalia already :o ?

royal_sophietje 12-12-2003 03:20 PM

No. It's just something diplomatic to bring Belgium and the Netherlands more closer to each other.

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