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KikkiB 11-06-2005 07:26 AM

The Winter Home in the Mountains and the Summer Home by the Sea
 
It seems like the royals again is stiring up a debate on their building plans. I found this article on CP Mette-Marit and CP Haakons plans on building a cabin near Kristiansand.

I've translated it myself, so it's not perfect, but I think you'll get the drift :)

Some explanations; SV is the Socialist Left party in Norway, and is known for being republican, the Right party is known for being monarchist.

We also have a law in Norway that says you can't build a house/cabin/building less than 100 metres from a beach/sea side. The beaches/sea side are supposed to be open for the public to use. But some municipalities gives suspensions from this law, giving private persons permission to have their private beach/sea side (fencing them in). And it causes discussion over and over again.

SV want to stop Mette-Marits dream cabin

Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon dream about building their vacation paradise near the beach at idyllic Flekkerøy at Kristiansand. But it could quickly create a quarrel. SV in Kristiansand have already reacted strongly to the rumours about the Crown Princely couples building plans at Naudetangen on Flekkerøy, and have had support from the locals.

“We don’t want the property to be re-regulated, and that it is made differences between royals and others. If the Crown Princely couple need 9843,4 m2 , it means that they also have to go into the free area. We mostly say no to cabins near the beach” says SVs municipality council member Gro Hareide to Dagbladet.

The municipality buys

The newspaper Fædrelandsvennen brought yesterday the news that Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon have been visiting the so-called NRK-property on Flekkerøya to have a closer look at the place.

“They fell for the place, and is interested in taking it over” says legal consultant Jon Holt with Kristiansand Eiendom to the newspaper. He expects that the municipality can take over the property from NRK sometime before Christmas. After that the municipality will re-regulate it and sell parts of the property to the Crown Princely couple.

Kristiansand Eiendom run Kristiansand municipalitys properties, and shall have taken on to get hold of the property after a request from the Palace in the late summer. The Crown Princely couples information advisor Sven Gj. Gjeruldsen says that there isn’t made any deals on a country estate. The couple has, according to Gjeruldsen, looked at several options. “I have no further comments to you” says Gjeruldsen.

For public use

For several decades the broadcaster had their “middlewave” transmitter on the island. The SV politician Gro Hareide thinks it would be nice if the Crown Princely couple would have a cabin in Kristiansand, but she can’t understand why it is a municipality job to help the couple.

It the case reach political treatment, she will heavily protest a re-regualtion from a beach property to leasure purposes for the royals.The signal so fra from the Right pary is that it would be nice of the municipality to help the royals find a country estate in the home town of the Crown Princess.

Descrete

The sea side property lies perfectly in the landscape for the vacationing people who wants privacy, as the security of the individuals will be taken care of.

Hareide have now gotten unsuspected support from the inhabitants of Flekkerøya, which isn’t especially known for being SV-terrain.

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2005/11/06/448532.html

Layla1971 11-06-2005 08:00 AM

Well, wasn't it Martha-Louise and Ari who got special treatment for their house?
At least, I think it was them.
My opinion is they should be allowed to build there, and yes, be given special permission too. After all, not everyone needs the privacy and security that royals need to have. This place seems to be perfect for them.

Larzen 11-06-2005 09:34 AM

thanks for translating
Quote:

Originally Posted by KikkiB
We also have a law in Norway that says you can't build a house/cabin/building less than 100 metres from a beach/sea side. The beaches/sea side are supposed to be open for the public to use. But some municipalities gives suspensions from this law, giving private persons permission to have their private beach/sea side (fencing them in). And it causes discussion over and over again.

You can build in 100 metres sone if their is already a building there, which you rennovate (take down and rebuild). Now this can take some extremes when people stretch the laws, many places very old smal boat houses gets "renovated" to summercabines and sold for millions etc.

I do not think you and me are allowed to fence in our beach, we have a summerhouse by the sea and we are not allowed to fence in our beach nor are we allowed to refuse people to walk there, but most people dont camp on other peoples piers and beaches because it feels strange. The idea is that all people should be able to walk by the seaside, and that it is open to everyone.

As far as I can see there is already a house at the property, therefor they can also build a new house at the same place if the house is approved by the local building council. The problem arrises because of the security they cant have you and me walking across their pier and beaches, and they will have to have special threatment like Märtha had. Mågerø is already on military ground and therefor off limit for us.


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Haakon took part in the yearly dinner for Stortinet Pictures here

Haakon takes part in a 3 day visit to Denmark, Pictures here

Layla1971 11-06-2005 10:40 AM

I still think an exception should be made for the couple, regardless of what the SV party thinks. It really isn't going to cause anyone any inconvenience, as long as they don't take up too much of the beach.

KikkiB 11-06-2005 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larzen
thanks for translating

You can build in 100 metres sone if their is already a building there, which you rennovate (take down and rebuild). Now this can take some extremes when people stretch the laws, many places very old smal boat houses gets "renovated" to summercabines and sold for millions etc.

You're welcome! And for that 100 metres sone, you might just be right! The law isn't my strongest side :) And since I don't own any property either, I haven't bothered to read up on it. I've just noticed that it's been discussed in the media, but I haven't really payed attention to all the details (not that I think the media give us an objective opinion on such things either).

norwegianne 11-06-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KikkiB
(not that I think the media give us an objective opinion on such things either).

Of course they don't. They don't sell papers by having objective opinions on such things.

sara1981 11-08-2005 11:24 PM

Crown couple rocks the boat with holiday home plans
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1150784.ece

mandyy 01-13-2006 06:42 PM

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Får SV mot seg
SV i Vest-Agder vil gjøre alt de kan for å stoppe kronprinsparets drøm om fritidsbolig på Flekkerøy ved Kristiansand
Jeg ser flere paralleller mellom Røkke-utbyggingen i Asker og den som vil komme hvis kronprinsparet opprettholder sitt ønske om å bygge en fritidsbolig på Flekkerøy, sier Gro Hareide, fylkesleder i Vest-Agder SV.

Det betyr i praksis at SV vil benytte alle klagemuligheter i reguleringssaken. Helt opp til departementet og miljøvernminister Helen Bjørnøy.

- Det er ikke en menneskerett å bygge hytte i strandsonen. Hvis kronprinsparet får ja til sitt byggeprosjekt, vil almenhetens mulighet til ferdsel begrenses i stor grad. Det blir dessuten et stort inngrep i naturen med stor bolig, inngjerding, hus til sikkerhetsfolk og større og nye veier, sier Gro Hareide...............
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ir...cle1197635.ece

Photo from Afterposten

Can someone translate this? Thx

imogen 01-13-2006 08:15 PM

Hello,

I'm new to the board. Thought I'd do the translation for you. I am Norwegian, but English is my everyday language. I live in the U.K.

Imogen.

SV to oppose

SV in Vest-Agder will do everything in its power to oppose the Crown Prince and Crown Princess' dream of building a holiday home at Flekkeroy near Kristiansand.

In reality this means that SV will make use of all avenues of complaint in the zoning application. All the way to the department and minister of the environment, Helen Bjornoy.

It's not a human right to build a holiday home in the beach area. If the Crown Prince and his wife are given permission for this building project, the public's right to roam will be greatly restricted. This will involve a big intrusion in the environment encompassing a large house, fencing, housing for their security staff and big, new roads, says Gro Hareide...



SV = Sosialistisk Venstreparti (translater's note)

Emily 01-13-2006 08:18 PM

First of all, welcome to the board, Imogen! And second, how very thoughtful of you to do that translation! Your English is excellent and I appreciate knowing what the article said!

Pink Tulip 01-13-2006 08:23 PM

I second that Emily! Welcome to the board imogen and thankyou so much for your great translation. :)

mandyy 01-25-2006 10:54 PM

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Kronprinsparet får millionrabatt

Kristiansand kommune gir kronprinsparet en tomterabatt på flere millioner kroner for å få dem som feriegjester om sommeren.

- Jeg legger ikke skjul på at vi svært gjerne ønsker å få Norges fremtidige kongefamilie til byen. De vil profilere Kristiansand på en veldig god måte, og deres tilstedeværelse vil skape positive ringvirkninger for hele regionen, sier ordfører Jan Oddvar Skisland (kr.f.) til Aftenposten................
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ko...cle1206704.ece

Can someone translate this article? Thx!

Photo from Afterposten

purple_platinum 01-25-2006 11:50 PM

it's probably follow-up about the issue already explained by KikkiB, here
and further discussed, here

mandyy 02-15-2006 01:09 PM

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Hyttedrøm kan bli stoppet
Hvis kronprinsparet skal bygge sommerbolig på Flekkerøy, må Kristiansand kommune rive et nasjonalt kulturminne. Det fraråder Riksantikvaren.
Et funkishus fra 1936 og et tilhørende naust står på en nasjonal verneplan som riksantikvar Nils Marstein personlig har vært involvert i. Det gamle naustet har allerede Kristiansand kommune gitt rivetillatelse til, og en ny sjøbod er bygget uten å ta hensyn til verneplanen.

- Riksantikvaren stiller seg bak planen og vi anbefaler fredning og vern av alle bygninger og objekter som er oppført i planen, sier Lisen Roll, seksjonssjef hos Riksantikvaren...........................
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ko...cle1224105.ece

Photos from Aftenposten

susannem 02-15-2006 01:30 PM

Would someone mind giving a brief summary of the article?

Thanks
Susanne

Larzen 02-15-2006 01:44 PM

The house that is located on the place they want to build their summerhouse is possible going to become protected and thus not allowed to be taken down. Its a funkis house from 1936 and might become protected because of its role as a building that is part of the telecommunication history (It was previously owned by the national broadcasting station). Its not listed as protected by Kristiansand city. An antiquarian hopes Kristiansand will not allow for the house to be taken down. The city says no decision has been taken, the city has not entered into a contract with the Crown Prince couple, that will not happen until the regulation is finnished. (Its all very complicated for me to explain in english)

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TV2 just showed pictures of Mette-Marit paying a private visit to Oslo Fashion Week last night, she saw the show of the Norwegian designduo So Hee http://www.sohee.no/

susannem 02-15-2006 01:59 PM

Thank you very much for the explanation.

Susanne

Sonnenblumenmäd 02-15-2006 03:26 PM

thank you, too. Although I like MM so much I do not really understand why they are not just going to find another estate. Without making all this trouble to other norwegian people. I think it it not fair to give MM and H so many privileges for just private purposes

Larzen 05-26-2006 05:54 AM

They are really asking for trouble now, very stupid :mad: It has been clear from the beginnig that they were going to get it their way and build there, but really they are now pushing the limit when regular folks now a days will have trouble building a veranda on their modest beach houses, again building in the beach zone is very controversial and touchy subject, and quite frankly I cant understand why they need such a giant house for a summer home, isn`t the point of summerhome to be outside and enjoy the summer when its finally here?
Quote:

Its about the planned summer house at Flekkerøya in Kristiansand, according to Fedrelandsvennen, the palace wants to build a house at a size of 6-800m2:eek: The Mayor of Kristiansand says "Oi, now we will have trouble to get things done" Kristiansand county has the responsibility to regulate the area which will be done around June 1st when the Palaces had reported its wishes. The city architect has already gotten some wishes from the palace and the person responsible for the royal buildings Ragnar Osnes says it would be a wish to get 6-800 square meter, it is not clear how many buildings they are going to make. The City is suggesting 32 mål of security zone around the houses, part of it is in the sea and will be closed of for regular people, part of it is a environmental protection area

A politician from SV (republican party) says it is unacceptable and she is glad her party has been against these plans from the beginning, the Palace of course has no comments

It’s very difficult for me to translate all the technical terms in this article, maybe someone can do better
http://www.fvn.no/na24/article367269.ece

Fedrelandsvenne (local paper in Kristiansand) has a crass editorial
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Dresses to feed an African family

Fedrelandsvenne can today reveal the royal carbine plans; 800 square meters, this includes a servants-ving and a building for the police security but a carbine one can surly not call the Couples Palace Plans

The building plans has already before the size was known made a lot of commotion, the Crown Prince Couple has modestly said that all will be done the correct way, but conveniently forgets that one can not call plans that involves nature protection areas and the no building zone "correct" especially when the conclusion seems obvious before they even started

Earlier this week the Crown Prince was visiting schools in Mandal and talked with a lot of engagement about the Poor in the world and how unfair the division of means between rich and poor is in the world, the students were encouraged to see what they could do in their own life to change this.

Also Crown Princess MEtte-Marit has profiled her self as the protector of the Poor and weak and the young couple has scored cheap points by inviting them to Skaugum for a charity meal once a year

The Crown Prince has been in Guatemala to talk warmly about the rights of the Indians, the Crown Princess on flimsing around on study visits to Geneva to learn about HIV and a lot of attention on her visit to Malawi. In the pink Press "Arch" Bishop Stålsett has named them role models.

But the position as role models comes with duties, and we find the couples part time engagement for the poor not very believable. Especially deep the couples involvement in the poor at home and abroad cant be when the Crown Princess wears hats and dresses enough to feed an African family for years, visits to European fashion houses to buy purses and baby clothes that could pay the energy for a small African village and the space they need on Flekkerøya enough to house plenty of homeless people

Now we are not going to ask the Crown Prince couple to solve the world troubles but since they both seems clear on the value of symbolic gestures maybe they should choose more low profile design factor on their consumption articles and cancel the Palace plans on Flekkerøya.
http://www.fvn.no/meninger/leder/article367229.ece

Of course this editorial spreads to other papers
VG nothing new from the above http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=117569
Aftenposten, also nothing new, less bitchy though http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ko...cle1330286.ece

norwegianne 05-26-2006 09:38 AM

800 m2 sounds extreme. I think our cabin in the mountains is about 30m2 - for six people. And my aunt's cabin by the sea, also in the beach zone, but built before beach zone was considered important, is something of the same.

Does anyone know how big the King and Queen's summer place at Mågerø is? (For comparison...)

I get that some of the buildings is probably for security, etc... but still.

Larzen 05-26-2006 09:55 AM

I dont know, but Märtha and Aris home after the renovated it is supposed to be 400 m2
http://pub.tv2.no/TV2/underholdning/...icle143875.ece

so to have for a summerhome, 1.5-2 as much seems extreme, really.

We have a 40m2 summerhouse in the beachzone as well, which was also build before the laws became so strict (thank goodness;)

Considering this is both in the beachzone and part of it is a nature conservation area I dont think they are showing much humbleness. How much are they gonna use this, I ask because the King and Queen it seems plan to spend much of their summer and Kongsgården when it is renovated, then they also have Mågerø which has a seperate wing, Märtha and Ari has their summerhouse, and then this, some buildings are hardly going to be used then. Afterall they cant work from Kristiansand, that is 4 hours drive atleast from Oslo, so it can only be in the vacation (which is 5 weeks in total for the average Joe), not like Bygdøy where the King and Queen can move and work from for bigger part of the year. Which I understand they want since at the Palace there is really nowhere to be private outiside. Its not like I expect them to build a 60 m2 house and I understand they need security but some moderation or a less controversial spot would be in order if they absolutly must have another summerhouse.

GrandDuchess 05-26-2006 04:35 PM

Oh dear, those plans for the summer home sounds very lavish indeed... Perhaps not the best thing to do for the image of the Royal Family and especially the Crown Princely Couple. And as Larzen said, they have so many places already. If they necessarily need yet another home to use a few weeks a year, it should at least be a normal sized villa or something (which could be renovated and fitted in accordance with their personal wishes, and security measures could be taken).

Katrianna 05-26-2006 06:08 PM

Good Lord, that's not a summer home, that's a palace. It sounds as the Crown couple are taking a page from Martha-Louise and Ari's book in how to use your Royal status to skirt the zoning laws. I have to agree that they are being hypocritical in taking this action while supporting improving Third World countries and indigenous peoples. This makes their efforts look like a sham.:cool:

norwegianne 05-27-2006 05:17 AM

Today the Palace commented to VG that the figure was extremely unreasonable and that no actual drawings had been issued, and that they hadn't even hired an architect, yet, because they wanted to let Kristiansand Municipality go through with the regulations prior to anything else.
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=304455

In the side column Fædrelandsvennen comments that if they really weren't planning on building so big, why did they let the newspaper believe it, instead of denying it? They also mention one of the working people at the palace as their source for who said no comment, a "carer for the royal palaces" for lack of a better English word, and why would he say that if it wasn't true?

My comment: I've never heard of this guy before. I'm sure that he's knowledgable about issues regarding to the royal palaces, which is his job. But when it comes to saying something about Haakon and Mette-Marit's private cabin plans - that's not really part of his job - and would probably get a no comment.

I agree with Grand Duchess in that they could well do with a normal sized villa.

Smilla 05-27-2006 05:23 AM

Given the low approval ratings and popularity of the Norwegian royals, MM and Haakon should do everything in their power not to annoy the public even more and work for a more positive image (esp. MM).

mandyy 05-27-2006 07:56 AM

Royal 'hytte' plans spark fury
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1331020.ece

bbb 05-27-2006 12:14 PM

seems like a mistake to stir up all this trouble. build a nice place within the lawful boundries and make nice with the neighbors, just makes common sense to keep the good will of those around you. it looks like a beautiful natural spot why ruin it for a once a year palace. if i were a local i'd be mad also.

Smilla 05-27-2006 12:27 PM

Have they ever explained publicly why they want their house to be so big? Maybe they've got perfectly good reasons!

norwegianne 05-27-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smilla
Have they ever explained publicly why they want their house to be so big? Maybe they've got perfectly good reasons!

See my post above where the palace states that there is no real figures as to size yet, they haven't even begun planning sizes. It was apparently a misquoted e-mail and some other misunderstandings (getting a no comment from someone who's not supposed to speak out about the royals, for example.). It doesn't take much for the press to blow up.

fanletizia 05-27-2006 04:38 PM

Crown Prince couple refuses hut palace plans
The Norwegian regional newspaper Fædrelandsvennen wrote about the Crown Prince couple´s big hut plans in the south of Norway. But their information manager says this is a misunderstanding.

http://www.norwaypost.no/cgi-bin/nor...maker?id=24762

Larzen 05-29-2006 02:03 PM

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Haakon at the first day of the Innotwon Innovation conference

He talked to the press and the topic was given, the summerhouse:rolleyes:

- I think it was a pitty this came out this way based on numbers taken from the air

He denies that he and his wife is building a summerhouse with the size of 6-800m2

- It is not true

He further says they are awaiting the regulations plans until they make a decision on the house.

In Kristiansand they now say that it was they who independantly had taken in to account that this was the possible size.
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=304493
http://www.side2.no/kjendis/article648165.ece
foto: Scanpix via VG and Nettavisen
Picture and part of his speech
http://www.smp.no/default.asp?page=1...44491,1&lang=1

Laviollette 05-29-2006 04:40 PM

How many castles does the NRF own? Why do H & MM have to have another one? Also, is the family spending their own money or will Norway's tax payer's foot the bill? Just asking.

Larzen 05-29-2006 04:55 PM

They will spend their own money ofcourse, I guess Haakon has inherited money after his grandfather just like his sister, its belived that Märtha used parts of those money to pay her house and upgrade the summerhouse she inherited

Here you can read about the public and private building of the NRF in english, there really only is one "real" Palace in Norway, choose properties http://www.kongehuset.no/default.asp?lang=eng

Katrianna 05-29-2006 05:15 PM

Thank you as always Larzen. It is a beautiful area! So now with Prince
akon denying the plans everyone is changing their story. Am I right? :rolleyes: Thanks!:)

Laviollette 05-29-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larzen
They will spend their own money ofcourse, I guess Haakon has inherited money after his grandfather just like his sister, its belived that Märtha used parts of those money to pay her house and upgrade the summerhouse she inherited

Here you can read about the public and private building of the NRF in english, there really only is one "real" Palace in Norway, choose properties http://www.kongehuset.no/default.asp?lang=eng

I'm surprised there is only one royal palace. I thought maybe there were two or three. But Norway does like their RF very small, not that the palace in Oslo lacks anything. It's huge and very beautiful. I wouldn't guess a summer home for Haakon & MM is all that bad though they really should not upset their neighbors or Norway might decide their RF should be even smaller -- if you know what I mean.;)

Laviollette 05-31-2006 06:13 PM

Aftenposten -- Palace downplays 'hytte' plans

Officials at the Royal Palace and Crown Prince Haakon himself claim reports that he and his wife plan to build an enormous summer home on protected coastal land are based on a "misunderstanding."

They won't detail what the royal couple's plans really are. They're fending off criticism, though, over reports that Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit are exploiting their royal privilege through plans to build a so-called "hytte palace" on an island off the coast of Kristiansand, Mette-Marit's hometown. read: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1334335.ece

Larzen 06-01-2006 05:43 AM

According to Aftenposten today Haakon and MEtte-Marit is putting away the summerhouse plans for the time beeing, the reason is that there is a man who has lifelong rights to use a small boathouse close up to their possible place. The Man, Askebo, has said he is willing to find a solution but he does noe wish to be bought out for millions, but he has agreed to move if he can have another small house on a smilar beautiful place. He also says he has no problem living so close to the couple:p The Palace finds it very important they they do not try to push him away, therfor it seems to be difficult to find a solution between the Palace and Krisitansand
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ko...cle1336735.ece

Aftenposten also has a funny and long oppinion piece, the authos calls Norwegians pittyful and envious not only to the Crown Prince Couple but to politicians and others who get benefits or is in a different situation. He goes on about the double standards about the very rich in Norway who is admired 8even if many of them do all to not pay taxes) while at the same time the media run after the ministers and other people hired by the public to see if they have used to much money on a lunch or on travels, or if they have a state funded Piano in their home. He asks who starts this, is it the envious public backed by the media or is it the despearte media struggeling with low sales that starts theese campaigns

He also makes this commen on a recent editorial in Se ogHør:
" ...and see and behold, there Se og Hør wears the holy glory, the magazine who makes loads of money on the royals has turned its face after the populistic oppinions and and says: the Crown Prince Couple must see what signals they send...and show that they are serious about helping the poor and the weak and a more fair society" wirtes the newly christianed holy moralist editor Odd Johan Nelvik. In 2003 the editor made 6,6 million NOK, that is more than the Crown Prince Couple gets as a joint apanage this year, namely 5,2 million NOK, I have not worried about this but now Nellvik needs to look at the signals he sends. Nelvik needs to show he is serious when he wants other people to restrain themselves, heavens, not only does editor Nelvik have a double name, he also lives a double life with double standards. My tip for a summergift from Se og Hør to its readers: A bucket to Puke in.

further he writes

"When the young couple at Skaugum actually takes some initatives to look beyond themselves it is obiously possible to score envy points in the south of Norway by writing that the couple has scored cheap points by opening their doors to the less fortunate and give them a charity meal.

As members of a konstitutional family with duties and rights the couple tries to make the best of the situation by engaging in ethical questions, now this is used against them because they dont live exactly as they preech. What could they learn from this? That it would be easier to shut up and do nothing, just like the other rich people does." http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/k...cle1336512.ece
a very funny piece, atleast in Norwegian.

Larzen 06-02-2006 04:17 AM

The summerhouse saga part XXXX

6-800 m2 is taken from the air says Haakon
The summerhouse construction will be around 600 m2 says now the mayor of Kristiansand:

- Our oppinion is that the total space neede is around 600 m2, that does not mean they have asked for it, or they are going to build a building of that size.

- I count on finding a solution with Askebo (who owns the smal house) and I wish the Palace would send us the information on what space is needed. If the Palace dont do it we have to take a brake, if the Crown Prince does not wish to buy the location we will have to work on other solutions for the area

- It is important for me that we find a solution for all partys

The reason tha Mayor finds that they will need this size is:

- The house that is there now is 400 m2 pluss the small house owned by Askebo which is 62 m2. It is likely that the couple will use the existing house as a base for their new one, but with extensive renovations inside and out

Further space neede could be a guest ving, housing for the police, garden/lawn and/or swimming pool and parking space for their cars and those of the police

In 1995 the King and Queen build their Summerhouse Mågerø, the main house is 500 m2 the total space is 800 m2 (its very well hidden in the terrain this building, foto scanpix)

In Frederikstad Märtha Louises summerhouse is 300 m2, the house is just upgraded with a big garden which includes and Pool of 60 m2, a smaller building of 20 m2 a terasse of 115 m2 and lawn of 180 m2, which gives a total space of around 700 m2 (foto Tone Georgsen)

- The Questions is why it is so unrelaistic that the Crown Prince COuple should need 600 m2

- that is a relevant question, says responsible for the Royal buildings Ragnar Osnes
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ko...cle1337934.ece

BTW editor of Se og Hør Odd Johan Nelvik is not amused with the oppinion piece in Aftenposten yesterday and accuses the writer of beeing PR hungry in his own piece today. (not nearly as funny written as the one yesterday but I guess that is why he works in Se og HØr which is mostly about the pictures...)
http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/d...cle1337977.ece
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Me: I think as the story gets more detailed the original statements from Fedrelandsvennewas that the buildings was going to be 6-800 m2 while now it seems they inlcude lawns, parkingspace and what not in this number, and from Osnes it seems when they include this they will come up with this number


***Crown Prince Haakon today inspecting the New Frigate Fridtjof Nansen with the King
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...6-post148.html

EmmieLou 06-02-2006 03:04 PM

Can't they just buy a house that is already built and stop this building talk?

I am sure the couple is sick of it by now and a house they would use to relax is probably giving them a huge headache!

The O.C. Fanatic 06-02-2006 08:08 PM

Seriously. It would be easier if they bought a house like right there. Building one is to much of a hassel.

Larzen 06-08-2006 10:03 AM

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A photoseries fo Haakon and Mette-Marit hand in hand in the spanish statevisit
http://www.side2.no/kjendis/article656206.ece

Today Haakon and Mette-Marit together with people from Krisitansand administartion was at the planned summerhouse location, they did not want to talk to Fedrelandsvennen who caught them there, Fedrelandsvennen says they will publish tomorrow exclusive pictures of Haakon, Mette-Marit and Sverre Magnus in the paper edition tomorrow
http://www.fvn.no/na24/article371057.ece
here is one of Haakon
www.fvn.no

Larzen 06-09-2006 03:15 AM

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Here are the rest of the pictures, from fedrelandsvennen
The woman with the pink top and curly hair is their choef of staff, Gry Mølleskog. FVN writes it a secret trip but at the palace Astrid Versto says to VG it is not a secret trip, but they dont send a press release everytime the couple is going somewhere
http://www.fvn.no/na24/article371280.ece
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norwegianne 10-24-2006 10:22 AM

Press release from http://www.kongehuset.no:

24.10.2006

Flekkerøya

Their Royal Highnesses the Crown Prince and the Crown Princess wish to express their thanks to Kristiansand municipality for the initiative they took in regards to the Crown Princely Couple taking over NRK's former property on Flekkerøya in Kristiansand. However, the Crown Princely couple have decided to decline the offer.

The decision is made after a total evaluation, where the complexity of the project have been taken into account. This is due to the protected area that would've been affected, concern for landowners in the area and necessary safety precautions.

TRH the Crown Prince and the Crown Princess will continue to look for a summer home in Southern Norway.


Translated by me.

zarat 10-25-2006 03:09 AM

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1507282.ece

The same topic but from aftenposten

Lakshmi 10-25-2006 05:13 AM

After Haakon and MM changed their mind about the summer house all the controversy will be put to the rest. On the other hand it great that royal couple was not treated differently than regular citizens. I think Haakon and MM decided to change their plans and to looke a summer house somewhere else mostly because all the media negative coverage and it was wise decision from their side.:neutral:

sm1939 10-25-2006 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakshmi
After Haakon and MM changed their mind about the summer house all the controversy will be put to the rest. On the other hand it great that royal couple was not treated differently than regular citizens. I think Haakon and MM decided to change their plans and to looke a summer house somewhere else mostly because all the media negative coverage and it was wise decision from their side.:neutral:

I total agree with you to much like hard work !! very wise decision !!

rominet09 10-25-2006 09:08 AM

Right decision to make, they are right

dazzling 11-08-2006 04:43 PM

Royals drop controversial summer home plans

Norway's so-called "crown couple" have dropped their efforts to build a large summer home on an island off the coast near Crown Princess Mette-Marit's hometown. The project had sparked criticism that it would give new meaning to the term "royal privilege." full article & source

norwegianne 07-23-2007 12:18 PM

Plans for a new holiday home
 
Haakon and Mette-Marit's quest for a holiday place was successful earlier this summer - when they acquired two plots of land in Numedal in Buskerud county. One of the plots is designated for the security detail, and one is for their own use. They can build a cabin up to 150 square metres in size (approx. 1,614 square feet) on each of the plots.

It's being alledged that they got them for less than market-price - but considering that the news of the royals finding a place to build, set a surge in the numbers of interested buyers in the same area, so much that they had to stop the sales for a while because of too many enquiries, I'm sure it was worth it to the cooperation selling, as well as the municipality, in sheer promotional value, if it was the case.

I suppose they figured it was easier to build from scratch rather than try to adapt a place that was already standing to their needs.

HRH Kerry 08-06-2007 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne (Post 644440)
...One of the plots is designated for the security detail, and one is for their own use. They can build a cabin up to 150 square metres in size (approx. 1,614 square feet) on each of the plots...

1614 sq ft isn't very big. If they are going for cozy then that is exactly what they will get.

norwegianne 08-06-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HRH Kerry (Post 650341)
1614 sq ft isn't very big. If they are going for cozy then that is exactly what they will get.

For a cabin - it's fairly big, imo, but it is rapidly becoming the standard size these days. People don't want the days of living without electricity and tapwater and living in less than 300 sq ft cabins when they're in the mountains anymore. :rolleyes:

Marengo 08-26-2007 11:29 AM

Where is Numedal btw? Far away from where the couple is living right now?

norwegianne 08-26-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 657490)
Where is Numedal btw? Far away from where the couple is living right now?

Aftenposten has a google map over it: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ko...=kart&token=-1
(With the bubble showing where the homes will be built, approx.)

They're living in Asker, now.

norwegianne 10-11-2007 01:58 PM

They started the work on the cabin yesterday, (picture from then in this article: Kjøpte hyttetomtene for 3,5 millioner)

and VG reports that it began to take shape today. It will be built in massive wood, without the use of nails, glue or other environmentally dangerous chemicals used to treat wood.

Kronprinshytte i ekspressfart

The other article above states that they paid 3.5 milions for the plots - considerably less than anyone else would have had to pay, but given the rush from other people to get holiday homes close to royalty, I would say that the marketing value would probably pay for the difference

Marengo 10-11-2007 04:26 PM

just wondering who sold the plot? If it wasn´t sold by the state why would people care if it was sold below market price?

carlota 11-11-2007 04:12 PM

the princes have bought this house near a ski resort in Nore og Uvdal, according to hola.

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biboquinhas 11-13-2007 04:20 AM

Yes that'a a nice wood holiday house, not too big perfect, but inside must have all the confort they need! It has alarm, cable TV and internet. It must be very cosy IMO. I would love to have a holiday home like that!

Larzen 11-13-2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by biboquinhas (Post 692344)
Yes that'a a nice wood holiday house, not too big perfect, but inside must have all the confort they need! It has alarm, cable TV and internet. It must be very cosy IMO. I would love to have a holiday home like that!

Norwegians usually do not go to their holiday homes to watch cable TV and internett (there are always exceptions of course)but to get away and be outside and enjoy the nature:wub: It is not far from the alpine slopes either.
Im suprised they build such a smal house, I was expecting more like a holiday-palace or something like that of the King and Queen which is not modest by any standard.

Ofcourse the security is going to be tight, there are some stories in the press that the Police has done backround check on the neighbours.

BTW this is the "cabine" of one on NOrways richest men who is now married to Mette-Marits former bodyguard, very modest:angel:
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1087971246.44083.jpg

Marengo 11-14-2007 05:01 AM

Just out of curiosity, did Mette-Marit have a female bodyguard? As you say the rich man married a former bodyguard, AFAIK same sex marriages aren´t allowed in Norway yet?

It seems that it is pretty normal to by a second house in Norway for holidays? Quite a luxery as here that is almost impossible, considering the price of properties due to population density. A caravan works well enough for most though ;). And the richer people usually buy a second home abroad, where they have sun and nice weather of course.

norwegianne 11-14-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 692870)
Just out of curiosity, did Mette-Marit have a female bodyguard? As you say the rich man married a former bodyguard, AFAIK same sex marriages aren´t allowed in Norway yet?

Yes, it was a female.

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 692870)
It seems that it is pretty normal to by a second house in Norway,l for holidays? Quite a luxery as here that is almost impossible, considering the pirce of properties due to population density. A caravan works well enough for most though ;). And the richer people usually by a second home abroad, where they have sun and nice weather of course.

It is extremely common with secondary summer/winter residences; for example, most families I know have one, without being exeedingly wealthy. It is often something that is owned by the parents/grandparents, and used by the whole family. (Something like the summer place of the royal family at Mågerø).

Most of them are up in the mountains, or by the sea. The important thing is that they're not classified as houses, but as cabins/cottages and thereby are in a different bracket as for property value and property taxes. You cannot live in them permanently - they're meant as vacation homes. There are also several caravan clubs in Norway, both up in the mountains and by the sea. Most of these caravans have also been expanded by additions so that they're a lot like small cabins and not so much caravans.

norwegianne 02-09-2008 02:34 AM

The cabins have been slightly delayed, so they won't be done by Easter (which is very early this year). Haakon and Mette-Marit will be celebrating Easter privately, according to the palace - but no information on how/where was released. The paper speculates in them either going abroad or to Lillehammer.
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sgl 02-09-2008 10:28 AM

I can't wait to see the cabin when it is complete. I am happy to read that they are using environmentally-friendly methods to build the cabin. Regarding Easter, does the newspaper speculate any particular place that they might visit if they do go abroad?

I really enjoy reading about Haakon and Mette-Marit. They are so lovely and modern, and they seem very nice and down-to-earth.

norwegianne 05-20-2008 10:48 AM

Haakon and Mette-Marit have bought a second holiday home; this one by the sea.

They've bought a small island outside of Risør.

- Hold på hatten, Mette-Marit! - VG Nett

Harold 05-20-2008 09:23 PM

How on earth will the police secure that place?

sofajr 05-21-2008 03:56 AM

pictures of the island and house from ANP:

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I think its great to live the whole summer on the island :wub:

norwegianne 05-21-2008 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 768840)
How on earth will the police secure that place?

It's actually a big problem, because of Norwegian legislation.

We have a law that regulates access to the beach-zone, meaning that everybody who wants to can go ashore. It's a law from 1957 that has been tightened up in recent years, and it is next to impossible to get an exemption from it. As it currently stands, everybody who wants to, can go ashore on the island, as long as they're not harming the area.

People in the article talk about how security concerns and issues of privacy may be the claims from the Crown Princely couple to get an exemption from the law.

Skjær i sjøen for kronprinsfamilien - Nyheter - Kongelige - Aftenposten.no

sofajr 05-22-2008 06:47 AM

I found article jn english in Aftenposten about the purchase:

Royals buy coastal hideaway - Aftenposten.no

galatea_12 05-23-2008 07:01 AM

Wow! an island to themselves :biggrin: Very private indeed... ;)

I'm happy that they were finally able to find a summer place.

dalia 05-23-2008 08:43 PM

I found two galleries from Fvn.no .The first titled Kronprinsparets perle here:- Fvn.no: Kronprinsparets perle and the second titled Bildeserie fra Flatholmen here:- Fvn.no: Bildeserie fra Flatholmen

Angeline 05-24-2008 06:45 PM

Would they not be a bit scared of the lack of privacy that might come of it?
I guess not if they bought it. Would it be possible to build some sort of compound around the periphery? But I guess that defeats the purpose of beach and water?

Okay, what will the name of this resort vacation home be?

I don't know much about terrain in Norway .. is the island good?

norwegianne 05-24-2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Angeline (Post 770823)
Would they not be a bit scared of the lack of privacy that might come of it?
I guess not if they bought it. Would it be possible to build some sort of compound around the periphery? But I guess that defeats the purpose of beach and water?

Okay, what will the name of this resort vacation home be?

I don't know much about terrain in Norway .. is the island good?

It's currently called Flatholmen, I doubt they'll change it.

The island is situated pretty well, but it's definitely a summer home in terms of wind and weather: given that there are few places to hide from the wind, and you have to get out there in boat…

dalia 05-28-2008 08:27 PM

Another gallery from nrk.no can be found here:- Kronprinsøya - Sørlandet - NRK Nyheter

dalia 06-10-2008 11:54 AM

I have found a couple of pictures from the inside here:- Kronprinsparets nye hytteparadis - Vårt Land - vl.no and here:- Kronprinsparets nye hytteparadis - Vårt Land - vl.no . The whole photo gallery can be found on vl.no on this link:- Kronprinsparets nye hytteparadis - Vårt Land - vl.no

I don't know what they were thinking, but I don't see any safety in it even for the children, the ground is rocky and the injuries could get too bad, that is beside the security issue. I wonder did they actually buy it or still negociating?

norwegianne 06-10-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dalia (Post 777413)
I have found a couple of pictures from the inside here:- Kronprinsparets nye hytteparadis - Vårt Land - vl.no and here:- Kronprinsparets nye hytteparadis - Vårt Land - vl.no . The whole photo gallery can be found on vl.no on this link:- Kronprinsparets nye hytteparadis - Vårt Land - vl.no

I don't know what they were thinking, but I don't see any safety in it even for the children, the ground is rocky and the injuries could get too bad, that is beside the security issue. I wonder did they actually buy it or still negociating?

They bought it.

The rocky ground is quite common in that area, and the area is rather popular for the summer holiday.

norwegianne 06-11-2008 04:33 AM

According to Aftenposten, they won't do any huge restorations, or add on to the existing building that is there - preferring the simple life over the more modern conveniences. (Quite possibly they learnt something from the experience in Kristiansand, even if the city council in Risør seems to be willing to bend over backwards to give them what they might want).

Allegedly the security teams will sleep in boats anchored up to the islands.

galatea_12 06-14-2008 06:47 AM

Royals opt for an un-royal life at their new 'hytte' - Aftenposten.no

Inside the new 'royal hytte' - Aftenposten.no

HRH Abigail 07-04-2008 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KikkiB (Post 316453)
It seems like the royals again is stiring up a debate on their building plans. I found this article on CP Mette-Marit and CP Haakons plans on building a cabin near Kristiansand.

I've translated it myself, so it's not perfect, but I think you'll get the drift :)

Some explanations; SV is the Socialist Left party in Norway, and is known for being republican, the Right party is known for being monarchist.

We also have a law in Norway that says you can't build a house/cabin/building less than 100 metres from a beach/sea side. The beaches/sea side are supposed to be open for the public to use. But some municipalities gives suspensions from this law, giving private persons permission to have their private beach/sea side (fencing them in). And it causes discussion over and over again.

SV want to stop Mette-Marits dream cabin

Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon dream about building their vacation paradise near the beach at idyllic Flekkerøy at Kristiansand. But it could quickly create a quarrel. SV in Kristiansand have already reacted strongly to the rumours about the Crown Princely couples building plans at Naudetangen on Flekkerøy, and have had support from the locals.

“We don’t want the property to be re-regulated, and that it is made differences between royals and others. If the Crown Princely couple need 9843,4 m2 , it means that they also have to go into the free area. We mostly say no to cabins near the beach” says SVs municipality council member Gro Hareide to Dagbladet.

The municipality buys

The newspaper Fædrelandsvennen brought yesterday the news that Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon have been visiting the so-called NRK-property on Flekkerøya to have a closer look at the place.

“They fell for the place, and is interested in taking it over” says legal consultant Jon Holt with Kristiansand Eiendom to the newspaper. He expects that the municipality can take over the property from NRK sometime before Christmas. After that the municipality will re-regulate it and sell parts of the property to the Crown Princely couple.

Kristiansand Eiendom run Kristiansand municipalitys properties, and shall have taken on to get hold of the property after a request from the Palace in the late summer. The Crown Princely couples information advisor Sven Gj. Gjeruldsen says that there isn’t made any deals on a country estate. The couple has, according to Gjeruldsen, looked at several options. “I have no further comments to you” says Gjeruldsen.

For public use

For several decades the broadcaster had their “middlewave” transmitter on the island. The SV politician Gro Hareide thinks it would be nice if the Crown Princely couple would have a cabin in Kristiansand, but she can’t understand why it is a municipality job to help the couple.

It the case reach political treatment, she will heavily protest a re-regualtion from a beach property to leasure purposes for the royals.The signal so fra from the Right pary is that it would be nice of the municipality to help the royals find a country estate in the home town of the Crown Princess.

Descrete

The sea side property lies perfectly in the landscape for the vacationing people who wants privacy, as the security of the individuals will be taken care of.

Hareide have now gotten unsuspected support from the inhabitants of Flekkerøya, which isn’t especially known for being SV-terrain.

SV vil stoppe <b> Mette-Marits </b> <b> drømmehytte </b> - Innenriks - Dagbladet.no

Thanks for this!

I just saw this refreshing article, in English, in the Aftenposten Site:

Royals opt for an un-royal life at their new 'hytte' - Aftenposten.no

HRH Abigail 07-04-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sara1981 (Post 318985)
Crown couple rocks the boat with holiday home plans
Crown couple rocks the boat with holiday home plans - Aftenposten.no

Rocks the boat?

Not anymore, according to the latest article about the holiday home plans (no remodel scheduled, apparently), in the Aftenposten (English) Site.
GOOD for the royal couple, making due like this!
I think this house is adorable, but, a bit tiny for a family of .... five, don't you?
Even I, who does not like royal extravagance or the appearance of it, would support enlarging this house and a remodel.

What do you guys think?


galatea_12 07-21-2008 09:17 PM

More pics of their new summer house in Flatholmen

Kronprinsøya - Sørlandet - NRK Nyheter

HRH Abigail 07-22-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galatea_12 (Post 801915)
More pics of their new summer house in Flatholmen

Kronprinsøya - Sørlandet - NRK Nyheter

These are lovely ... thanks for sharing!

I like Picture 8 of the 19 uploaded: The swimming "grotto" looks really cool! :flowers:

norwegianne 08-15-2008 09:08 AM

The small motor-boat Haakon and Mette-Marit use at their new summer place, sank yesterday from taking in too much water (probably from rain). Some neighbours discovered it, and reported it to the police. Others took the boat to Risør, so it could be emptied. Kronprinsens båt sank - VG Nett om Kongehuset

HRH Abigail 08-15-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norwegianne (Post 811719)
The small motor-boat Haakon and Mette-Marit use at their new summer place, sank yesterday from taking in too much water (probably from rain). Some neighbours discovered it, and reported it to the police. Others took the boat to Risør, so it could be emptied. Kronprinsens båt sank - VG Nett om Kongehuset

Thanks for the gist of the article, translated into English, but is there a fuller and more extensive translation of this article out there, Norwegianne?

Thanks, in advance :flowers:

-- Abbie

Florencia 09-05-2008 10:00 AM

NORE OG UVDAL 20080905 Norway's Crown Prince Haakon's and Crown Princess Mette-Marit's new log cabin in Nore og Uvdal is soon complete and ready for a move-in. Photo: Terje Bendiksby

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Rebafan81 09-05-2008 01:02 PM

The new house looks really nice but I can't get over how small it is, with 3 growing children, I would certainly want something bigger so I could escape by myself for a while.:lol:

Parrothead 09-05-2008 05:49 PM

I agree, it does appear small. Perhaps they wanted it that way so it could only be the family that is in the house and no "staff" around. I love the grass or moss on the roof. Very unique!

norwegianne 09-06-2008 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebafan81 (Post 819594)
The new house looks really nice but I can't get over how small it is, with 3 growing children, I would certainly want something bigger so I could escape by myself for a while.:lol:

It is pretty much the standard size for these things nowadays in Norway, at least for the common folks. The cabins of yesteryear (like their summer house) are much smaller. The idea is that anyone wanting solitary time goes for a walk outside, either on foot or on skis, which is chiefly why these summer/winter houses are located fairly far away from "civilization".

Our winter home and summer homes are tiny, but as we spend most of the time when we're there outdoors, it doesn't really matter. (And should the weather be ghastly, you spend the time playing board games :rofl:)

sofajr 10-29-2009 04:13 AM

The Crown Prince and Crown Princess visited the Dvergsøya island to see the property they're planning to buy (or rent) as a place for vacation near CP Mette-Marit's home town Kristiansand.

See the pictures of the house:
Tilbyr kronprinsparet feriested - Sørlandet - NRK Nyheter

sofajr 11-19-2009 03:03 AM

The Couple got the house for rent:
Sa ja til utleie - Sørlandet - NRK Nyheter
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ir...cle3384820.ece

carlota 11-19-2009 01:24 PM

hola mentions in this article how the neighbours of villa vogt, that the crown princely couple rented, complained about the need for security to enter the island that will be imposed as the couple spends their summer there. there's apparently a facebook group

Haakon y Mette-Marit de Noruega ya tienen casa de verano

fortimo 06-29-2011 01:21 PM

Kronprins Haakon kronprinsesse Mette-Marit

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Kommunen spanderer brygge - Nyheter - Innenriks - Aftenposten.no
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fortimo 07-16-2011 09:35 AM

It is an older news, but it seems, they don't like Flatholmen so much... Maybe they don't use it anymore.

Her er kronprinsparets nye feriested*|* TV 2 Nyhetene

fortimo 07-22-2011 07:03 AM

The problem with the holidayhouse...

http://pa.kristiansand.kommune.no/po...405-960222.PDF

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http://pa.kristiansand.kommune.no/po...402-985296.PDF

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fortimo 03-03-2012 01:36 AM

http://www.seher.no/890773/kronprins...vil-oppgradere


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fortimo 04-08-2012 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Florencia (Post 819521)
NORE OG UVDAL 20080905 Norway's Crown Prince Haakon's and Crown Princess Mette-Marit's new log cabin in Nore og Uvdal is soon complete and ready for a move-in. Photo: Terje Bendiksby

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I heard, that the people in Norway spent her Easter-Vacation in the mountains with skiings. Maybe are the crownprince-family also here, but I never seen picture about their in Uvdal. Does anybody know that they have this cabin or not anymore?

fortimo 07-19-2012 03:03 AM

The map of the summercabin by Dvergsøya/Kristiansand

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Flatholmen bei Risor:

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fortimo 08-27-2012 02:46 AM

Did they buy two cabins in Uvdal? I thought, they let build one...:

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COUNTESS 08-27-2012 04:43 PM

Looks wonderful.

teia 10-12-2012 04:22 AM

oh dear
 
I ask myself how the late King Olav V would of have thought of all this
He surely would of have asked for local construction permissions to be respected
And I do not think he was so much in favour of a certain 'spending money habit'

fortimo 12-28-2012 06:08 AM

An old article about the cabin in Uvdal, with a few new pictures:

FJELLSNARET - Slik blir kronprinshytta - Nettavisen
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And other pictures: http://scanpix.no/spWebApp/search.ac...ANPNOREO071112

Other article with pitures:

http://www.klikk.no/bonytt/hytteliv/article445239.ece
http://translate.google.hu/translate...icle445239.ece

And an article with a map:
http://www.nettavisen.no/bolig/hytte...cle1379253.ece
http://translate.google.hu/translate...cle1379253.ece

Other map: http://www.fjellsnaret.no/?page_id=890 , the Nr.157 and 158 is the CP's cabin.

I think the cabin can be here, but it is not marked as the other cabins, areas: http://wikimapia.org/#lat=60.3281447...&z=16&l=21&m=b

And an article with a picture what was taken from the opposite side of the valley:
http://www.aftenposten.no/kongelige/...r-6473064.html

fortimo 12-28-2012 11:36 AM

And a privat picture from somebody: 20080615-_MG_3837 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


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