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adelgal_36 01-03-2006 01:43 AM

Diana's friends, lovers and bodyguards
 
for years i have always wondered what has become of diana's flatmates. the flatmates: carolyn bartholomew(nee pride), ann hill(nee bolton) and virginia pittman. i am interested to know what has become of them . last i read about carolyn was according to 'friend' of diana's simmone simmons diana apparently had a fallout with carolyn. as for ann i do know she is still married to noel hill and still lives here in australia. prince harry stayed at their farm when he was in australia a couple of years ago. virginia pittman i have no idea what has become of her. does anyone know? be interested to know what they have done in regards to careers etc

maryshawn 01-07-2006 03:08 PM

I'll try and research the others. I knew she was close to Ms. Bartholemew but Ms. Simmons says Diana became angry when she borrowed a dress than waited awhile to return it and when she did, it was in shabby condition. It was auctioned off by Christie's however (it was on page 116 in the catalogue), the Catherine Walker lliac dress with the mult-coloured jacket. IF it had been ruined, it certainly didn't look in bad shape in the photo where Diana models it. I don't know how much to believe about this "rift"; perhaps Diana was in a bad mood that day (parting with all her dresses and thinking about their history could lead to sadness and disappointment). As far as I know, Carolyn and Diana were very much on speaking terms when Diana died--which is more than Ms. Simmons can say.

Lady Jean 01-08-2006 05:54 PM

Has anyone seen a photo or video of any of them at her funeral? I dont' recall any.

maryshawn 01-13-2006 08:40 PM

I'd read at the time Carolyn Bartholemew was definitely there but as for the others, I don't know. I don't know how true it is but several books have stated the "guest list" for her funeral was created from Diana's address/phone book.

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Originally Posted by Lady Jean
Has anyone seen a photo or video of any of them at her funeral? I dont' recall any.


smg9295 03-01-2007 08:31 AM

Diana and Anne Beckwith-Smith
 
Does anyone have information on Anne Beckwith-Smith and what she has been doing since Diana's death? She is one who has never spoken yet was with Diana since the very beginning.

sassie 03-02-2007 06:46 PM

I believe Anne Beckwith-Smith works for a prestigious art gallery in London. I imagine she's getting close to retirement, though-she is ten years older than Diana.

Christo's Girl 03-03-2007 02:08 PM

I believe that Harry stayed with either Virginia or Ann during his time in Australia that is correct. It was these three ladies that appeared to have had the longest lasting friendships with Diana. Anne Beckwith-Smith was I am sure very much missed by Diana when she left as LIW.

Sammy 03-03-2007 02:47 PM

If you look at some of the pictures from June 3, 1997 - Sotheby's I believe, Anne Beckwith-Smith is with Diana.

Charlotte1 03-04-2007 01:14 AM

When Harry came to Australia he stayed at the property in Northern NSW (?) that belonged to Diana's former flatmate Ann Hill and her husband. Ann married the son of one of Charles's friends who owns large stations ( ranches) in Australia. He's Australian, so she lives in Australia and obviously there is some contract with Diana's children but probably more due to her husband's family connections with Charles.

Lord of Cowley 05-22-2007 11:48 PM

Hello - I think this is a most interesting thread. Someone had mentioned that they did not know what had happened to Virginia Pitman. Well, I am pretty sure that she is married to Andrew Parker-Bowles, first husband of Camilla!

Weird, eh?

Charlotte1 05-23-2007 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord of Cowley
Hello - I think this is a most interesting thread. Someone had mentioned that they did not know what had happened to Virginia Pitman. Well, I am pretty sure that she is married to Andrew Parker-Bowles, first husband of Camilla!

Weird, eh?


Ummm Andrew Parker Bowles's second wife's name is Rosemary! She was his long term mistress that he married after his divorce from Camilla.

Elspeth 05-23-2007 12:10 AM

The BBC seems to have got things wrong, because Virginia Pitman is mentioned as his second wife.

BBC NEWS | UK | Profile: Camilla Parker Bowles

Wikipedia has Rosemary Pitman:

BBC NEWS | UK | Profile: Camilla Parker Bowles

TheTruth 07-02-2007 07:51 AM

Diana's friends, lovers and bodyguards
 
Hi there,

I wanted to start a new thread talking about the bodyguards of the princess and showing some photos. Which one did you like the most ? Which one would you have trust or fired ? Do you think that the resignation of Ken Wharfe in 1993 leaded directly to the death of Diana ?

:flowers:

Warren 07-02-2007 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTruth (Post 635001)
Which one did you like the most ? Which one would you have trust or fired ?:flowers:

Do you want a factual thread or a "fan" thread? How many members would be in any position to have a basis for a like or dislike of any of Diana's bodyguards? You may as well ask "who do you think was the most cute?"

If you want to have a thread discussing Diana's relationships with her bodyguards, that's a valid area. But to ask members "which one did you like the most?" just reinforces the increasing trivialisation and reduction to the absurd of so many things to do with Diana. Next up we'll have someone suggesting "Diana - The Board Game".

TheTruth 07-02-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren (Post 635009)
If you want to have a thread discussing Diana's relationships with her bodyguards, that's a valid area. But to ask members "which one did you like the most?" just reinforces the increasing trivialisation and reduction to the absurd of so many things to do with Diana. Next up we'll have someone suggesting "Diana - The Board Game".

No lol, what I meant was "Who do you think fufilled his work of bodyguard perfectly?" so it concernes their relationship with Diana. Sorry for making an ambiguity :flowers:.

TheTruth 07-02-2007 08:38 AM

Some pics :
Barry Mannakee
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Dave Sharp
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Graham Smith
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Ken Wharfe
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Trevor Rees-Jones
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2 videos of Ken Wharfe talking of Princess Diana on CBS
A British report purportedly found that not only was Princess Diana and Dodi al-Fayed's driver drunk, but that the U.S. was spying on Diana. Ken Wharfe, a former bodyguard, speaks with Rene Syler.

Ken Wharfe, Princess Diana's bodyguard at the time newly-revealed tapes were made, spoke to The Early Show about the latest wave of scandals and rumors surrounding her life and marriage.

Lily97 07-03-2007 01:40 PM

Well I can definately say who not and that would be Trevor Rees-Jones. He allowed those crazy antics to go on that fateful night!

If I were to pick a favorite I would say Barry Mannakee because I think that was her favorite and she trusted him the most. He was also there during the time when she probably needed someome to trust at the very beginning when she was feeling like a duck out of the water.

Lily

AuroraB 07-03-2007 02:29 PM

Sorry to disagree, but Dodi and his father were in control that night in Paris, not Trevor Rees-Jones. Rule number one: don't argue with the boss.

TheTruth 07-03-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AuroraB (Post 635730)
Sorry to disagree, but Dodi and his father were in control that night in Paris, not Trevor Rees-Jones. Rule number one: don't argue with the boss.

Yes, I agree with you AuroraB. Trevor Rees-Jones couldn't go against the will of his boss. Although some bodyguards, when they have the trust of their boss, dare to suggest what would be better for them. If Trevor did see the inhability of Henri Paul to drive, he would have probably told Diana not to get in the car. But when you look at the videos of the Ritz, Henri Paul didn't seem to be drunk. How could Trevor possibly prevent this car crash ?

Skydragon 07-03-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lily97 (Post 635707)
Well I can definately say who not and that would be Trevor Rees-Jones. He allowed those crazy antics to go on that fateful night!

Trevor Rees-Jones was not Dianas bodyguard, he was Dodi's.


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