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Lady Bluffton 05-19-2007 10:08 AM

Civilian Career Ideas for British Royal Family
 
This thread is a spin-off of a question I raised in Thread 4 of Prince Harry's current events -- assuming Prince Harry resigns his commission in the army, what would be a proper civilian career for him?

And the larger question -- what are "proper" civilian careers for members of the British Royal Family. The extended family don't seem to have much of a problem with choosing a career path (think Zara Phillips, Helen Windsor, etc.), but the immediate family closest to the monarch have (Edward comes to mind).

I'm interested in what everyone's ideas might be! Have fun!

HRH Kerry 05-19-2007 10:10 AM

Have fun you say?

Supermodel!

I guess we would have to know what he's good at. Art Curator? Overseeing a national military musuem.

Henri M. 05-19-2007 01:23 PM

I think there are a lot of opportunities, simply see foreign examples:

Don Jaime de Marichalar y Sáenz de Tejada, Duke of Lugo:
Managing Director's Senior Advisor for Crédit Suisse First Boston, Advisor for Sociedad General Inmobiliaria and President of the Winterthur Foundation.

Prince Friso, Count van Oranje-Nassau van Amsberg:
Director of TNO Space Technologies

Archduke Lorenz of Habsburg-Este, Prince of Belgium:
General Partner E. Gutzweiler & Cie. Banquiers Basel, Geneva & Zürich

Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands:
Strategic Consultant for the RAND Corporation Europe in Brussels. Furthermore he is advisor to the European Commission in Brussels.

Don Iñaki Urdangarín Liebaert, Duke of Palma:
Director of planning and development for Motorpress Ibérica and a founding partner of Noos Consultoría Estratégica.

Etc.

cowarth 05-19-2007 01:52 PM

He got A-levels in Art and Geography at Eton.

cowarth 05-19-2007 01:55 PM

Harry does not have the aptitude for higher education, that is why he went in the service.

BeatrixFan 05-19-2007 02:01 PM

Are you suggesting that only morons go into the armed forces? You've got to have some intelligence to do what he's done and I think it's unfair to say he's too stupid for furthur education.

cowarth 05-19-2007 02:23 PM

I simply meant that based on his A-levels that he would not be attending a school like St Andrews for higher education.

Skydragon 05-19-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cowarth
Harry does not have the aptitude for higher education, that is why he went in the service.

Nice but dim, is the general description, although not an expression nowadays for armed forces personnel. :lol:

Gentleman Farmer perhaps, outdoor/survival course instructor, I think it would have to be something physically taxing.

Sister Morphine 05-19-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cowarth
I simply meant that based on his A-levels that he would not be attending a school like St Andrews for higher education.



As I said in the Harry thread, if he applied himself I feel he would succeed. I don't think he's stupid, just lazy. My sister is the same way. She made the Dean's List this semester at her University because for the first time she actually applied herself and she saw the results of that work. If Harry does the same, he too could advance in school.

If he really can't be in the Army because they won't let him do what he a) wants to do or b) what he's trained to do, then a furtherance in his education would be the course to take.

cowarth 05-19-2007 03:58 PM

He could go back to Africa to study African art.

cowarth 05-19-2007 04:00 PM

He has to have some smarts, he attended Eton College, a tough school to get into and even tougher to stay in.

Sister Morphine 05-19-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cowarth
He has to have some smarts, he attended Eton College, a tough school to get into and even tougher to stay in.



You could make the argument that he got in because he's Prince Harry, but I do feel he is genuinely a smart guy but needs to apply said smarts better. Just saying he got into X school doesn't mean as much as you think....there are things called legacies and people benefit from them more than they probably should.

Elspeth 05-19-2007 04:02 PM

Just to remind everyone that this is a thread about civilian careers for British royals in general; it isn't a thread to discuss Prince Harry's current situation; that should be done in his Current Events thread.

Thanks

Elspeth

Sister Morphine 05-19-2007 04:06 PM

Since Harry has a genuine love for children and he takes after his late mother with her humanitarian side, perhaps he should look into careers in the following sectors:

Social Work
Child Development/Child Psychology

Little_star 05-19-2007 04:10 PM

It's an interesting question as I cannot think of such a high-ranking royal who does have a civilian career, with the exception of Edward or maybe Zara.

I actually think it's hard to decide for Harry as he seems to be somebody who would be well-suited for the military. I guess it would have to be something "outdoorsy", I couldn't imagine him working in an office or something similar. Moreover I think it would have to be quite challenging, which would really test his physical abilities, possibly related to fitness in some way.

cowarth 05-19-2007 04:24 PM

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In the late 1980s, he worked for two theatrical production companies, including Andrew Lloyd Webber's Really Useful Theatre Company. During his time at Lloyd Webber's company, he worked on such plays as Phantom of the Opera, Starlight Express, and Cats. Prince Edward's first foray into the world of television production was the widely-ridiculed, It's a Royal Knockout television programme in June 1987, in which teams sponsored by himself and other members of the Royal family competed for charity.
In 1993, Prince Edward formed the Ardent Television production company, under the name Edward Windsor. Ardent was heavily involved in the production of documentaries and dramas, particularly on the royal families of Europe. With exclusive access to the Royal Archives at Windsor Castle, Prince Edward had plenty of material for his work. However, he was accused in the media of using his royal connections for personal and business gain, particularly given the financial problems of Ardent since its founding (it reported losses in all years of existence except one).
In 2002, the Prince announced that he would step down as director of production and joint managing director of Ardent to concentrate on his public duties and to support the Queen during her Golden Jubilee year.
This is Prince Edward's civilian career.

cowarth 05-19-2007 04:30 PM

Princess Anne is very involved in charity work.
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The Princess Royal is involved with over 200 charities and organisations in an official capacity. The Princess Royal works extensively for the charity Save the Children of which she has been president since 1970. The Princess Royal Trust for Carers [1] was created on her initiative in 1991 - her work for the charity takes her all over the world, including many poverty stricken African nations. Also her extensive work for St. John Ambulance as Commandant-in-Chief of St. John Ambulance Cadets has helped to develop many young people as she annually attends the Grand Prior Award Reception. She is also a British representative in the International Olympic Committee as an administrator, and is a member of the London Organising Committee for the Olympic Games.

Skydragon 05-19-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Morphine
Since Harry has a genuine love for children and he takes after his late mother with her humanitarian side, perhaps he should look into careers in the following sectors:
Social Work
Child Development/Child Psychology

In the UK, these are all university based positions. With Harry's apparent temper, he would not be considered for any of them. You do not need to qualify for Eton, it is a fee paying private school.
Just because Harry has put his name to co starting a charity and has kicked a ball about with some youngsters, that does not make him an ideal candidate to work with children. It's all very well to enjoy spending a few hours with them, but to deal with them every day....

Zara is lucky to be good at her chosen career and that it is now a recognised field.

We saw the trouble that Catherine had, I expect the York sisters to have the same problem and they do not have the benefit of being attractive, IMO.

Being a top civil servant, again is a university biased occupation.

cowarth 05-19-2007 04:34 PM

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Following graduation, Peter worked for both the Jaguar and WilliamsF1 Formula One racing teams. He was the Sponsorship Accounts Manager at WilliamsF1 until September 2005 when he left to work at the global headquarters of the Royal Bank of Scotland in Gogarburn, Edinburgh.
Peter has a career.

Skydragon 05-19-2007 04:38 PM

Harry and William are a lot closer to the throne and that would make it difficult for them to get civilian employment.


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