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BurberryBrit 11-24-2006 12:16 PM

Máxima's Voice, Accent and Languages
 
Here is a video of Maxima speaking english. Her voice and accent surprised me! Her voice is deep (nice) and she speaks english with a Germanic accent. Did she have an accent before learning dutch? I wonder if the fact that she has been speaking Dutch for so long (an probably predominantly in her daily life) is the reason her english sounds this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZtA7sr-CDw

Her voice was just unexpected. :flowers:

carlota 11-24-2006 12:43 PM

i thought she had a very british accent, despite having lived in new york for such a long time.

i heard her speaking in spanish during her solo official visit to argentina last year, and she still has an argentinian accent when speaking spanish.

her tone surprised me as well, she has a very deep, matured voice.

Saturn 11-24-2006 12:47 PM

Maxima has a really nice voice!. I don't know if she has a german accent, as I'm not german, but what I can say is that when she speaks English she doesn't have spanish accent at all.

magnik 11-24-2006 01:05 PM

How is her Dutch after these few years?

Gisela 11-24-2006 01:36 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Maxima attended 'Northlands' school in Buenos Aires. Northlands offers a bilingual (English-Spanish) curriculum and was founded by a Brit. That would explain her British accent.

BurberryBrit 11-24-2006 01:41 PM

Magnik, I believe she is fluent. I saw another video and she spoke with authority.

Yes, she does have a british tone to her speech as well.

Maxie 11-24-2006 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnik
How is her Dutch after these few years?

The princess is fluent in Dutch. From time to time she makes little mistakes and she has a little spanish accent, but I have to say, I'm amazed how well she learnt our language, since it definitely isn't an easy language to learn for someone with a latin background.

*SofiaM* 11-24-2006 02:13 PM

I was surprised when I heard Maxima, her voice doesn't sound like she is from Argentina. I'm no expert but her accent when speaking Dutch is very good :smile:

Henri M. 11-24-2006 02:16 PM

German Nuns, British College, Latin University
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxie
The princess is fluent in Dutch. From time to time she makes little mistakes and she has a little spanish accent, but I have to say, I'm amazed how well she learnt our language, since it definitely isn't an easy language to learn for someone with a latin background.

Máxima Zorreguieta did attend primary school at the Institute Malinckrodt in Buenos Aires, an expensive private school led by German nuns.

Máxima Zorreguieta did attend secondary school at the expensive Northlands College in Buenos Aires, where English was the first language and is vested on the typical Brithish girls' schools for the happy few.

Máxima Zorreguieta studied Economics at the Pontificia Universidad Católica Argentina Santa María de los Buenos Aires.

Máxima Zorreguieta worked in New York (English) and Brussels (Dutch and French). She studied Dutch in private courses with a logopediste.

Maxie 11-24-2006 02:36 PM

When I said the princess had a latin background I didn't mean to say that she wasn't educated or whatsoever, Henri. I'm well aware of the good education she had.

I was only referring to the fact that it's very hard to learn Dutch for someone who speaks a latin language like Spanish, Portugese or French. There are several differences between the latin and germanic languages in the way the grammar is built which can make it very difficult to switch from one group of languages to the other, especially when you've never been exposed to Dutch, German or Scandinavian languages. It mostly lies in syntactic differences when it comes to the way verbs are used, I won't bore you with these kind of things...). Next to that the sounds used in germanic languages are much more extensive than the sounds used in latin languages. This explains for example why it's difficult for people who speak French to learn English. Their vocal apparatus (as it is called in linguistic science) isn't used to the more varied possibilities of the English language. At least this is what I was always told in university. This once again shows how clever Maxima is. Though I myself think I could do the same in no matter what language if I had the teachers Maxima had, of course...:angel:

Henri M. 11-24-2006 02:41 PM

4 language influences
 
Oh I was not reacting on your or someone's else's post. I only wanted to make clear she has had German, British and Spanish-speaking education. All this mixed together with Dutch language can be the reason for Máxima's accent and pronouncation.

:flowers:

She has been very privileged with such excellent education in her youth. So -on first sight- she had no regular contact with her Argentinean contemporaries until University.

Princess Maxima 11-24-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henri M.
Máxima Zorreguieta did attend primary school at the Institute Malinckrodt in Buenos Aires, an expensive private school led by German nuns.

Máxima Zorreguieta did attend secondary school at the expensive Northlands College in Buenos Aires, where English was the first language and is vested on the typical Brithish girls' schools for the happy few.

Máxima Zorreguieta studied Economics at the Pontificia Universidad Católica Argentina Santa María de los Buenos Aires.

Máxima Zorreguieta worked in New York (English) and Brussels (Dutch and French). She studied Dutch in private courses with a logopediste.

Henri,
I know Malinckrodt school.. and you don't start really studying German until secondary school.
And Northlands... in that school you don't speak just English:smile: . You have some subjects in English, but the majority of the subjects are in Spanish:flowers: The english is really good at the school but they mostly give importance to sports.
So my questions is: where did you get this info from?

Henri M. 11-24-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Maxima
Henri,
I know Malinckrodt school.. and you don't start really studying German until secondary school.
And Northlands... in that school you don't speak just English:smile: . You have some subjects in English, but the majority of the subjects are in Spanish:flowers: The english is really good at the school but they mostly give importance to sports.
So my questions is: where did you get this info from?

From the Royal House website and the many, many books, magazines, tv-documentaries and articles which appeared on the new Princess in 2001/2002.

:)

rosana 11-24-2006 07:08 PM

I can´t believe she already speaks fluent dutch and with almost no accent.For a spanish speaker is very difficult to learn a germanic language ( English is included), because the structure is totally different so Maxima has really facilitiy for languages.

carlota 11-24-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henri M.
Oh I was not reacting on your or someone's else's post. I only wanted to make clear she has had German, British and Spanish-speaking education. All this mixed together with Dutch language can be the reason for Máxima's accent and pronouncation.

:flowers:

She has been very privileged with such excellent education in her youth. So -on first sight- she had no regular contact with her Argentinean contemporaries until University.

i'm sure she did. in fact, european (or any english speaking) inmigration is not a very large group in argentina, but most argentinians are grandchildren with european ancestry (only a 20% of argentina's population are autoctonous), but they are considered argentinian, speak with argentinian accent and are very much involved in argentinian culture, although they have a very wide and international background.

the children attending these schools are normally upper class argentinians whose parents want the best education for them or children of parents who travel a lot.

i myself attended a british school in buenos aires and that was pretty much the environment there... :flowers:

Princess Maxima 11-25-2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henri M.
From the Royal House website and the many, many books, magazines, tv-documentaries and articles which appeared on the new Princess in 2001/2002.

:)

Ok, whatever
Plase show me where it sais that at the Royal House Website. I've only found:"Princess Máxima passed her baccalaureate examinations at Northlands School in 1988"

BurberryBrit 11-25-2006 10:11 AM

I don't understand what the dispute is over? Whether she spoke majority English or Spanish at Northlands?

So the concensus is the british inflection comes from the fact that she learned English at a school taught by Brits at Northland? I guess that could make sense if the only people she spoke english with spoke with the british accent while she spoke spanish at home.

adelaide 11-25-2006 10:12 AM

I don't all the schools that you mentionned in this thread about the Maxima 's scholar studies.

It's absolutly obvious when you heard Maxima speaking english that she has an exellent accent as if english would be her mother tongue.

The other thing very notable in the Maxima's cas is the vocabular that she used ,allways, in english. It's an engligh of very high level of studies, pronouced by a personn who is accostumed to speak in public or presided such audiences or comitees and so on. It's a voice with a feminine determination authority. Very impresive and charming too.

rosana 11-25-2006 03:02 PM

Henri, there are no schools in Argentina where English is the first language, in some expensive schools they give much importance to English and sometimes they learn some other language too, but i assure you that argentinian teens can barely speak Spanish. Maxima must have taken English lessons somewhere else, even when she was at the University.

Henri M. 11-25-2006 03:57 PM

Northlands College is bilangual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rosana
Henri, there are no schools in Argentina where English is the first language, in some expensive schools they give much importance to English and sometimes they learn some other language too, but i assure you that argentinian teens can barely speak Spanish. Maxima must have taken English lessons somewhere else, even when she was at the University.

Máxima Zorreguieta learned her English at Northlands College and perfectioned it in New York, where she worked and lived in the world of the haute finance.

"The IGCSE Programme at Northlands College is for students that are interested in the international accreditation of the last two years of compulsory education in Great Britain. Students take seven subjects, all in English, with the exception of Spanish and French."


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