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JOY! 05-18-2006 11:13 AM

The Royal Household, Courtiers, Advisers and Attendants
 
Does anyone have any info on the ladies in waiting for the BRF?
like for Queen Elizabeth or Camilla?
(sorry if this has already been posted)

magnik 05-18-2006 11:55 AM

Lady in Waiting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_waiting
Maid of Honour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maids_of_Honour

About Queens Ladies of the Bedchamber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_of_the_Bedchamber

and Mistress of the Robes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistress_of_the_Robes

About Princess Diana's Ladies in Waiting
http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~canyon/dianas_ladies.htm

hornsen 05-18-2006 12:32 PM

In my knowledge Camilla hasn`t a Lady in Waiting.

msleiman 05-18-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hornsen
In my knowledge Camilla hasn`t a Lady in Waiting.

Why is that?

BeatrixFan 05-18-2006 01:35 PM

She's got 2 now but I'm not sure of their names. The Queen has 5, Princess Anne has 3, the Duchess of Kent no longer uses them, Princess Michael has 1 and Princess Alexandra has 2.

Princejohnny25 05-18-2006 02:46 PM

I have always thought Camilla had two secretarys that have been with her since before she was married but I never thought they were actuall Lady in Waitings.

Rebafan81 05-18-2006 02:56 PM

Pardon myignorance, but what do Lady in Waiting do?

magnik 05-18-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebafan81
Pardon myignorance, but what do Lady in Waiting do?

Their duties varied from monarchy to monarchy. Almost attending (take flowers etc.) a female member of the Royal Family other than the Queen Regnant or Queen Consort.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_waiting

BeatrixFan 05-18-2006 05:04 PM

According to Brian Hoey, Camilla's secs double as L-i-W even though one of them is a Miss.

kaydura0717 05-18-2006 07:08 PM

In reality it doesn't matter if they are a miss, lady, countess, duchess or whatever its just someone thst knows protocol and does the job well. Plus one of Princess Diana's lady in waiting was a miss.

BeatrixFan 05-18-2006 07:15 PM

True. One of the Queen's is a Miss. I just stated that she was a Miss in case people thought Miss's could be L-i-W.

Genevieve 05-18-2006 09:51 PM

Does Sophie have a lady in waiting? Certainly if Princess Michael has one then the Countess of Wessex must have one, too considering that her rank in the family is higher and she does more royal duties than Princess Michael.

sara1981 05-19-2006 12:21 AM

i read Princess Diana have many of her lady-in-waiting on the websites since 1981-1997 oh my godness they says its would be eight! include her older sister.but i think Diana hires or Buckingham Palace appoint im sure.

im not sure about Sophie and Camilla have lady-in-wait since got marriages in the royals.

and how many HM Queen have lady-in-waiting?

kelly1972 05-19-2006 05:54 AM

Burkes' Peerage lists I think 11 ladies in waiting to the Princess Royal. I'm sure she doesn't use all of them. Some must be temporary, here is the link if anyone wants to check it out. Another piece of interesting info is that 2 of her ladies in waiting are godmothers to her children. Which I thought was interesting.

Here's the link:http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/...es/page31c.asp

It says the Royal Household in Scotland so I would assume that some are just used when HRH is in Scotland. Hope the link works.

BeatrixFan 05-19-2006 09:23 AM

Brian Hoey says in his book "At Home with the Queen" that there are about 80 L-i-W in total. All can be called at the last minutre for a trip or a visit. They all have special privelages. For example, they are entitled to a chaffeur driven car when "in term" and can, at any time, eat in the Ladies Dining Room in the Palace.

Some of the Royal Ladies use the L-i-W and some don't. It's now a matter of personal preference but all of them are appointed by the Queen. So, Princess Alexandra couldn't choose her L-i-W from scratch. She chooses from a list assigned to her by the Queen.

kelly9480 05-19-2006 11:30 AM

Princess Anne had about 11 a few years ago. Sophie has one, who doubles as a secretary. Can't remember her name, though.

PreDoc 05-19-2006 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Brian Hoey says in his book "At Home with the Queen" that there are about 80 L-i-W in total. All can be called at the last minutre for a trip or a visit. They all have special privelages. For example, they are entitled to a chaffeur driven car when "in term" and can, at any time, eat in the Ladies Dining Room in the Palace.

That's a nice tradeoff for having to act as a personal maid to some HRH, is the pay decent?

BeatrixFan 05-19-2006 04:27 PM

They don't get paid.

PreDoc 05-19-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
They don't get paid.

Yikes, but I'm sure the princesses toss them a bone every once in a while to make the job more attractive ... I guess men have it easier as aides-de-camp because presumably the military picks up their salary.

BeatrixFan 05-19-2006 04:37 PM

Not any more PreDoc. That was something that came out of the Paul Burrell case. No longer can they chuck 'em an unwanted gift. Anything they do recieve has to be declared and so far, nothing major has been. Before, the L-i-W were given tiaras, clocks, loose gem stones etc etc. All things given to members of the RF are stored in Buckingham Palace and now everything is carefully monitored so that no freebies are given.

You're right, the men get their military pay. It's the ladies who lose out.


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