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ldt20 10-16-2006 04:34 PM

Royals and Dentistry
 
I don't mean to be rude, but I keep seeing pictures of some royals that would greatly benefit from dental whitening (Queen Sofia, Queen Margrethe).

They are most of the time in front of the public eye and a healthy smile is part of an overall good presence.

I just wonder what you all think about this subject.

*SofiaM* 10-17-2006 01:45 PM

I think Queen Sofia did have her teeth whitened in the past as they don't seem as 'yellow' as they did...
I'm sure Queen Margrethe's teeth are like that because of smoking. Though some people are not blessed with good teeth in general :wacko:

auntie 10-17-2006 02:28 PM

Oh you have touched my heart as this is my proffesion, in the dental field.
The Queens mother Elizabeth had very unasthetic teeth, even as a young Duchess of York, she never fully smiled and I noticed her teeth were not so nicely coloured and shaped. I find it amazing, as there is so many dental options today with lazer and implants and surgeries why would anyone with the income of a monarch or prince not fix their teeth!

royaltywatcher 10-17-2006 03:41 PM

A white smile is not necessarily a "healthy" smile. More likely, there was some damage done to get that unnatural whitening. Whitening is also a young person's aesthetic, or that of those that want to look younger. It may not be part of the value system of an older person. It seems that the younger members of the royal families are partaking, but the older group isn't. But at this point, what do they have to prove?

Her_Majesty 10-17-2006 03:46 PM

I think Margrethe should really think about going to the dentist. Her teeth are extremely yellow (who wonderes.. as much as she's smoking;)).
Oh, and she should take Harald with her (he stopped smoking). His teeth are very yellow ,too. :rolleyes:

auntie 10-17-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by royaltywatcher
A white smile is not necessarily a "healthy" smile. More likely, there was some damage done to get that unnatural whitening. Whitening is also a young person's aesthetic, or that of those that want to look younger. It may not be part of the value system of an older person. It seems that the younger members of the royal families are partaking, but the older group isn't. But at this point, what do they have to prove?

I'm sorry, but there is a difference between natrual looking teeth, with an ivory look (Vs flahing white teeth) than broken discoloured teeth, with different coloured crowns!

Bella 10-17-2006 07:10 PM

Besides smoking (and excessive coffee/wine drinking which can also discolor teeth) there was a medication used as recently as the 1960s to treat asthma, esp. in children. I know 'cuz my ex husband was given this for his asthma problems. I forget the name, I want to say it's tritroglycerin (sp?) but it badly discolors the teeth and bones. My ex was incredibly diligent in cleaning his teeth/mouth and went frequently to the dentist, however, little could be done about the discoloring until recently when they began to use lasers to "wash" away the stains on the enamel. It's a very costly procedure (though I'm sure these royals could well afford the treatment) and it takes considerable time. My ex lucked out 'cuz he went to a teaching school where dental students were learning how to use the procedure so he got it done relatively for free. Perhaps some of the discoloring of these older royals teeth might also have to do with medications they were given.

Lady Marmalade 10-18-2006 10:47 AM

The Lady Sarah Chatto, David Linley, Princess Raghnild of Norway, Princess Elizabeth of Denmark, Queen Margrethe's first cousin, they all are in DESPARATE NEED of braces.

I know it is very American to go to the dentist regularly and have braces...but these royals....NASTY TEETH!!

Even Princess Anne with her overbite could have benefited from braces.

Thank goodness Anne and Diana had the sense to get Zara and William braces for their teeth.

I agree about Queen Margrethe as well. She needs to have those teeth taken care of.

Henri M. 10-18-2006 12:12 PM

Prince Willem-Alexander
 
The royal in the Netherlands with -by far- the worst teeth is Prince Willem-Alexander, the Prince of Orange.

But so now and then you can see his teeth are fixed again, so that he can smile that wonderful smile of him again. His bad teeth are very connected with his weight. He suffers an immune deficiency syndrome (Besnier-Boeck syndrome) which periodically requires heavy medication (prednison) making him really looking blown up and which affects his teeth.

In 'good periods' he slims down a bit again and then you see that he had visited the orthodondist again.

:flowers:

ldt20 10-18-2006 12:32 PM

This is a really good photo where you can clearly see Queen Margrethe's teeth.

Again, I don't mean to be rude, but they look pretty awful. Queen Margrethe looks like such a nice person, always happy with a smile on her face but these teeth seem to say "I don't care about my image or health" (just my opinion).


http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...nmargrethe.jpg

Photo from Polfoto.

AliciaAnn 10-18-2006 01:13 PM

I noticed that Camilla Parker-Bowles teeth were extremely yellow prior to her wedding to Prince Charles. It appears that she had them whitened prior to their engagement. Of course, it is still obvious that they are still crooked.

Tinika 10-18-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ldt20
This is a really good photo where you can clearly see Queen Margrethe's teeth.

Again, I don't mean to be rude, but they look pretty awful. Queen Margrethe looks like such a nice person, always happy with a smile on her face but these teeth seem to say "I don't care about my image or health" (just my opinion).




Photo from Polfoto.

Oh, TERRIBLE teeth! I know we Americans are probably too fixated on good teeth, but for me it just makes such a difference on the overall impression a person makes. Bad teeth are just icky. I had a boyfriend with really bad teeth (and accompanying bad breath) and it really, really got to me after a while--it's one of the reasons (though not a major one) that he's now an ex!

Bella 10-18-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade
The Lady Sarah Chatto, David Linley . . .

I was always amazed by the fact that Pss. Margaret never had her children's teeth (and jawline which can be affected by severe overbite) corrected. She was always so glamourous and stylish, very aware of physical appearance. Lord Snowden, too. Being a photographer, surely he was sensitive to appearance issues. And in the late 60s/early 70s it was becoming more and more commonplace for children/young adults to have their teeth "fixed". Yet another royal mystery.

jordana2 10-18-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella
Besides smoking (and excessive coffee/wine drinking which can also discolor teeth) there was a medication used as recently as the 1960s to treat asthma, esp. in children. I know 'cuz my ex husband was given this for his asthma problems. I forget the name, I want to say it's tritroglycerin (sp?) but it badly discolors the teeth and bones. My ex was incredibly diligent in cleaning his teeth/mouth and went frequently to the dentist, however, little could be done about the discoloring until recently when they began to use lasers to "wash" away the stains on the enamel. It's a very costly procedure (though I'm sure these royals could well afford the treatment) and it takes considerable time. My ex lucked out 'cuz he went to a teaching school where dental students were learning how to use the procedure so he got it done relatively for free. Perhaps some of the discoloring of these older royals teeth might also have to do with medications they were given.

Bella your so right about the medication discoloring the teeth, my little girl who's on medication daily has that problem, someone suggest that i use bakingsoda and that did the trick for a while but it's getting really bad again. Does anyone know of any safe solutions i could use at home for her. :rolleyes:

HRHAmy 10-18-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ldt20
This is a really good photo where you can clearly see Queen Margrethe's teeth.

Again, I don't mean to be rude, but they look pretty awful. Queen Margrethe looks like such a nice person, always happy with a smile on her face but these teeth seem to say "I don't care about my image or health" (just my opinion).



Photo from Polfoto.

I agree, this does not look good or healthy. I just recently went to the dentist and saw a chart of tooth decay. Queen Margarethe's teeth on the side where you can see the black part between the tooth and gums looks very much like decay, it may be from smoking it just negelct but she should probably have it taken care of.

I agree though, if one if a public figure they should try to look their best. You know, put your best foot forward. Idt20, you're absolutely right IMO, it looks like she doesn't care about her image or health. Although, she's done a great job as Queen, the teeth are really bad and should be changed.

I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if this rumour I heard was true about the Queen Mother. I heard once that the Queen Mother never brushed her teeth, is that true? I cringed when I heard this because I could never imagine going on without brushing my teeth. Ewww. Does anyone know if this rumour is true? Thanks

Bella 10-18-2006 02:53 PM

Sorry to hear about your daughter's issue, Jordana2. What does her dentist say? I don't know how good the home remedies work. I remember my ex tried everything for years to get his teeth whiter and nothing worked until he went to the specialists. At least w your daughter she has more options available to her. Have you tried looking more info. up on the internet? Or actually, maybe even going to a health store, like GNC. Good Luck.

HRH Amy, I heard that too about the Queen Mother. I can't imagine anyone going through a day w/out brushing their teeth, let alone their entire life. But she did have pretty funky teeth so you never know. I heard she liked to have a nip every now and then (I think of brandy) and that she was very fond of sugary treats, two things that would have ruined her teeth if she wasn't keeping up on their care. If it's true she didn't brush her teeth, you'd think they'd have rotted clear out of her head.

royaltywatcher 10-18-2006 03:53 PM

I'm the one that said a white smile is not necessarily a healthy smile. But after seeing that picture of Queen Margarethe, I'm coming over to your side.

HRHAmy 10-19-2006 03:29 AM

I wouldn't say all is lost with royals and bad teeth though, look at Princess Diana, her's were relatively straight and pretty white. http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...7&d=1107809157

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...8&d=1108130551

Sarah, Duchess of York also had straight teeth although her's could've been whiter. Maxima has straight teeth but because of the smoking they have turned yellow, but they could polish up with whitening.

Tartucat 10-19-2006 03:53 AM

I agree with HRHAmy. There are many, many royals who have straight and white teeth (and thus very beautiful smile). For example Swedish Princess Madeleine, Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Carl Philip. There is nothing wrong with their teeth. However, there are indeed very bad examples too (e.g Queen Margarethe).

jordana2 10-19-2006 12:03 PM

Thanks Bella she hasn't seen a dentist yet, she just turn two but the dentist that the family usually sees recommends age three, because at that age their more likely to sit still and not be so terrified. but i'll check the internet like you said.


Wow Queen Margarethe's teeth are in really bad shape.
And so many of the younger royals too, so many of them really needs their teeth whitened. I mean it's not like they can't afford it.


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