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marian 10-15-2006 06:00 PM

Royal intimacy
 
I want to know why the royal house demanded to the princess Diana, to be able to marry the prince Carlos, be a virgin. Logically, I believe that, of all the princesses at present, except, probably, Matilde of Belgium, all have had past.


I want to know if all the princes males had lovers before their marriage, especially, the young princes inheritors. Does someone know?

:wacko:

LadyK 10-15-2006 09:40 PM

In a word, yes. Yes, I would be very surprised if the heirs haven't.
Prince Albert of Monaco, of course, has been intimate at least twice.:rolleyes:
Haakon and MM lived together before they were married, so... yeah...
The only one who might not have would be Guillaume of Luxembourg. But then again....

crisiñaki 10-16-2006 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyK
The only one who might not have would be Guillaume of Luxembourg. But then again....

1. didn't his younger bro had a kid and got married recently? that speaks volumes about the "premarital relationships" in the men of this family:lol:
2. wasn't he linked to Pia Haraldsen? she doesn't strike me as the "virginal type" either:rolleyes:

amina1 10-16-2006 02:22 AM

I also read in another forum that PMarry of Denmark had a boyfriend and lived with him for seven years,and then they split up,and that she spoke publicly about him when she got engaged to the CPrince.

mirrjam 10-16-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by amina1
I also read in another forum that PMarry of Denmark had a boyfriend and lived with him for seven years,and then they split up,and that she spoke publicly about him when she got engaged to the CPrince.

Totally true. And I think that is very normal, all the princesses had normal live before metting a prince. So they had normal relationships and living together and everything that comes with that::in_love:

LadyK 10-16-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mirrjam
all the princesses had normal live before metting a prince. So they had normal relationships and living together and everything that comes with that::in_love:

With the exception of Mathilde, who has never had a known boyfriend prior to CP Phillipe

sm1939 10-16-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyK
With the exception of Mathilde, who has never had a known boyfriend prior to CP Phillipe

How old was she when she married CP Phillipe ??

EmpressRouge 10-16-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sm1939
How old was she when she married CP Phillipe ??

She was 26 when she married Philippe in 1999. They had met three years earlier at a tennis match.

ZandraRae 10-16-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crisiñaki
1. didn't his younger bro had a kid and got married recently? that speaks volumes about the "premarital relationships" in the men of this family:lol:
2. wasn't he linked to Pia Haraldsen? she doesn't strike me as the "virginal type" either:rolleyes:


I don't think we can count on any of the heirs, or for that matter, any other royal to be virgins. In this day and age, that is viewed as uncommon, or whatever. No, Pia doesn't look like a virgin, I agree.

Gita 10-16-2006 12:08 PM

When Lady Diana Spencer got engaged to Prince Charles it wa subject to her passing the virginity test. HM Queen Elizabeth insisted that Prince Charles chould marry a virgin.

But it was well known that both the late Diana, Princess of Wales's elder esisters were virgins when they married in the seventies.

ortino 10-16-2006 12:21 PM

I think that in this day and age it will be hard to find a "virgin" bride if the bride is over 26 no? Princess Diana was 19 when she was engaged- it will be hard nowadays to find that...IMO I really don't think that the Swedish royal children, the English boys or the older Luxembourg chiledren are what you would call...sexually innocent or inexperienced??

Emily 10-16-2006 01:11 PM

We are also talking about a whole generation passing between the marriage of Diana and the marriages of the current European Crown Princes. In addition, Diana was the first girl to marry a Crown Prince in the generations between Beatrix, Sofia, etc. and the current generation.
There were no comparable marriages to hers at that time. And so, the mores/expectations were still a hangover from the previous generation, with QEII having no other examples to look to. ...and being rather conservative anyway, she stuck to the tried and true "virgin" line -- although IMO that whole episode of Diana's uncle declaring she was shown to be a virgin on a medical exam is probably exaggerated -- I imagine the family had a great, good laugh over that one behind the scenes. Not saying that Diana wasn't a virgin, but she was, afterall, a very funloving young woman and that would be a pretty oldfashioned declaration even for 1981. So, the expectations now, I think, are just different.

RachelD 10-16-2006 01:30 PM

Was Sarah a virgin when she married Andrew? Also, don't these women marrying crown princess have to pass a fertility test? How embarrasing is it to have your personal health (such personal health!) on the news?! I can just see it now, "All arrangments for the up-coming wedding of Crown Prince Bob can now resume as it has been proven that Miss Sally is indeed a virgin and fertile, therefore guaranteeing an heir will be produced for the throne." or something like that...

Do the royal houses still do this to any possible future Crown Princess? I thought I had heard something about a fertility test being done on CPMary...?

Emily 10-16-2006 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelD
Was Sarah a virgin when she married Andrew?
Do the royal houses still do this to any possible future Crown Princess? I thought I had heard something about a fertility test being done on CPMary...?

I think it was highly unlikely Sarah was since she had, had quite a fling with Paddy McNally. And I don't think all royal houses would expect this anymore -- look at some of the ages of the CP's -- it's a bit unlikely the virginity tests could confirm what they were looking for.

EmpressRouge 10-16-2006 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily
I think it was highly unlikely Sarah was since she had, had quite a fling with Paddy McNally. And I don't think all royal houses would expect this anymore -- look at some of the ages of the CP's -- it's a bit unlikely the virginity tests could confirm what they were looking for.

I believe she had lived with a man before her marriage. Two of her exes were invited to the wedding as did two of Andrew's.

sm1939 10-17-2006 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EmpressRouge
She was 26 when she married Philippe in 1999. They had met three years earlier at a tennis match.

Do you think she was hand picked for Philippe then ???
because didnt it take him a long time to get married etc ???

starnightsky 10-17-2006 07:29 AM

Royal Intimacy
 
Has a Crown Prince ever married a woman who couldn't produce children? I wonder what would happen in this day and age if one of the Crown Princesses couldn't have kids. Would their be a divorce? What do you all think?

sm1939 10-17-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by starnightsky
Has a Crown Prince ever married a woman who couldn't produce children? I wonder what would happen in this day and age if one of the Crown Princesses couldn't have kids. Would their be a divorce? What do you all think?

surely they would be checked out for that ! even in ths day and age they would have to know for sure if she could have children !

LadyK 10-17-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by starnightsky
Has a Crown Prince ever married a woman who couldn't produce children? I wonder what would happen in this day and age if one of the Crown Princesses couldn't have kids. Would their be a divorce? What do you all think?

Actually, yes, they have. King Henry VIII divorced his first wife, Catherine of Aragon because of her infertility. However, obviously, our modern princesses don't seem to have that problem!!!;)
In this day and age, no, I don't think they would divorce, unless the issue caused extreme friction in their marriage, as what might be happening in Japan right now with CPss Masako and CP Naruhito (that's what I heard on the Japanese royals board, and I said might, so let's not go there)

Emily 10-17-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by starnightsky
Has a Crown Prince ever married a woman who couldn't produce children? I wonder what would happen in this day and age if one of the Crown Princesses couldn't have kids. Would their be a divorce? What do you all think?

Yes, King Baudouin of Belgium married Fabiola of Spain and she had many miscarriages and never was able to have a child. That is why the throne was passed to Baudouin's brother, Albert and will eventually go to Phillipe. Also, Phillipe picked Mathilde himself and has said so. It was not an arranged marriage.


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