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Muhler 08-26-2013 12:09 PM

The keen movie goer and history buff will by now be familiar with Struensee and how he eventually...ahem, lost his head.

From the State Archives:

Here is first Queen Caroline Mathilde's confession of her having an affair with Struensee: Caroline Mathildes underskriver sin tilståelse, 1772 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Then the divorce papers signed by I don't know how many nobles with seal and all: Caroline Mathildes skilsmissedom, 1772 -2. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Caroline Mathildes skilsmissedom, 1772 -1. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Caroline Mathilde's signature: Caroline Mathildes underskrift, 1772 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

- Goodbye, don't let the door hit you on the way out...

But Struensee as you know, got a rough time as well. Here is first his crest: Struensees våbenskjold, grevepatent 1771. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
And later on the annullment of him being made a count: Annullering af Struensees grevepatent, 1772. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

It is written in Latin, if you are interested in reading the document.

But most if his reforms were ratified after his death and here are some of them: Struensees reformer - forordninger og kabinetsordrer - a set on Flickr

One can't help feeling feel sorry for Caroline Mathilde, Christian VII wasn't exactly an ideal husband. Here are some drawings made by him and they are... well, yes: Christian 7.'s tegninger og portrætter - a set on Flickr

Biri 01-18-2015 07:37 AM

I swa the film yesterday! Marvellous (actors especially)!

Londena 01-18-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Biri (Post 1741809)
I swa the film yesterday! Marvellous (actors especially)!

I agree, such a good film!

Furienna 01-18-2015 08:34 AM

I hope I will see it too, some day when I get an opportunity.

CyrilVladisla 11-28-2016 08:21 PM

After Christian VII and Caroline Mathilde were divorced, the Danish authorities deported their former Queen to Hanover. Due to her behavior, King George III preferred not to have her back in England.

Countessmeout 11-28-2016 09:15 PM

The Danish didn't deport her. George III certainly didn't turn his back on his sister. He in fact sent an ambassador to Denmark to see his sister freed from prison, likely sparing her life. The ambassador helped negotiate her release which included her settlement at her brother's castle in celle. She and her brother would remain in correspondence.

eya 01-23-2017 10:45 AM

Danish history’s most famous love child ensured the enlightenment never dimmed – The Post

rominet09 01-23-2017 06:17 PM

Such a wonderful film with such marvellous actors !!!! I loved it !

rominet09 01-23-2017 06:21 PM

very very interesting... thanks for posting !:flowers:

Kataryn 05-30-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 1942652)
After Christian VII and Caroline Mathilde were divorced, the Danish authorities deported their former Queen to Hanover. Due to her behavior, King George III preferred not to have her back in England.


It was not due to her behaviour but due to the people who remained loyal to her that George did not want her back in London. He feared that her court (like her court in Celle did) would become the home of Danish reformers turned revolutionaries. Sending her to Celle was a kind act of the king for his little sister, for Celle and the dukedom of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel was governed by a good friends from her childhood who were family to her: dukes Ernst and Karl of Mecklenburg-Strehlitz were the brothers of George's queen Sophie Charlotte and thus Caroline Mathilde's In-laws. She was very much loved by her family there and by the people of Celle because she believed in Struensee's ideas of enlightenment and opened up her court to the people. Her brother had forced the Danish to give back her dowry and let her have it, so she had enough money to spend on her palace in Celle, her gardens and her people.



it is known that her son Frederick (who for his whole life was very close to his half-sister Louise Auguste from the love affair with Dr. Struensee) planned to get her back to Denmark as soon as he took over the reign for his father. But he was still a child when his mother died from a disease she had gotten on carin g for a little girl she had taken on because she missed her own children so much.



So the real tragic was that she lost Struensee and then died herself so young that neither he nor she could see the changes they had brought to Denmark taking hold under her son as king.

rominet09 05-30-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 2117702)
It was not due to her behaviour but due to the people who remained loyal to her that George did not want her back in London. He feared that her court (like her court in Celle did) would become the home of Danish reformers turned revolutionaries. Sending her to Celle was a kind act of the king for his little sister, for Celle and the dukedom of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel was governed by a good friends from her childhood who were family to her: dukes Ernst and Karl of Mecklenburg-Strehlitz were the brothers of George's queen Sophie Charlotte and thus Caroline Mathilde's In-laws. She was very much loved by her family there and by the people of Celle because she believed in Struensee's ideas of enlightenment and opened up her court to the people. Her brother had forced the Danish to give back her dowry and let her have it, so she had enough money to spend on her palace in Celle, her gardens and her people.



it is known that her son Frederick (who for his whole life was very close to his half-sister Louise Auguste from the love affair with Dr. Struensee) planned to get her back to Denmark as soon as he took over the reign for his father. But he was still a child when his mother died from a disease she had gotten on carin g for a little girl she had taken on because she missed her own children so much.



So the real tragic was that she lost Struensee and then died herself so young that neither he nor she could see the changes they had brought to Denmark taking hold under her son as king.

Thank you for this info... this story is so heartbreaking.....

CyrilVladisla 05-30-2018 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rominet09 (Post 2117816)
Thank you for this info... this story is so heartbreaking.....

It was informative to learn that Caroline had relatives in Celle to rely on. Without them she would have been totally abandoned. That also would be heartbreaking.

Kataryn 05-30-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 2117828)
It was informative to learn that Caroline had relatives in Celle to rely on. Without them she would have been totally abandoned. That also would be heartbreaking.


If you saw the movie "A Royal Affair", you could see that the Danish king had sent Caroline Mathilde's best friend and lady-in-waiting Louise von Plessen away from court because she had once too often chosen to speak for the queen. Louise was offered a new home my Caroline Mathilde's brother in Celle, so when Caroline Mathilde came there, she was already awaited by her best friend. Plus her sister Augusta (who was also her godmother) was the wife of the then duke of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel (and the nephew of Juliane Marie of Denmark, who had been a princess of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel) and the sisters became close again, much to the annoyance of Juliane Marie in Denmark.



That was another point I think why George III. sent his little sister to Celle, because so she could be close to her eldest sister (who had only married two years before Caroline Mathilde, so for a long time had been like the second mother to her) and thus he could annoy Juliane, who was too much of a friend with Frederick the Grand of Prussia to let him sleep in peace.


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