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norwegianne 08-25-2006 11:56 AM

Christian VII, Caroline Mathilde of Wales & Struensee
 
Name: Christian VII

Birth: 1749

Child of:Frederik V & Louise of England

Reign: 1766-1808

Marriage: 1766 to Caroline Mathilde of Wales, marriage dissolved 1772

Children: Frederik 6, and officially as well, Louise Augusta.

Death: 1808

Throne passed to: Frederik VI

Notes:




Suffered from chronical schitzophrenia. Or as it was termed in his day and age - madness/insanity.

norwegianne 10-29-2006 03:38 PM

Name: Caroline Mathilde of Wales

Original name: Carolina Matilda

Birth: 1751

Child of:Frederik Ludvig of Wales and Augusta of Sachsen-Gotha

Marriage: 1766 to Christian of Denmark. Dissolved in 1772 - her infidelity.

Children: Frederik 6 & Louise Augusta

Death: 1775

Notes:
Sister of George 3-

After the marriage was dissolved, she was banished to Celle in Hannover (where George 3 reigned)

norwegianne 10-29-2006 03:39 PM

Name: Johann Friederich Struensee

Death: Publicly executed in 1772.

Notes:

Court doctor.

Affair with the queen, which resulted in a daughter - Princess Louise Augusta that was publicly acknowledged as the King's. This, put together with the fact that he had come to virtually rule Denmark, through the sick king, and unsurped power, led to his execution.

MargreteI 10-29-2006 04:15 PM

A very colourful King for sure.

Crazy as hell. :wacko:

Furienna 11-04-2006 07:57 PM

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6186/315xp6.jpg
King Christian VII.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5568/316kx7.jpg
Queen Caroline Mathilde.

magnik 11-05-2006 02:23 PM

Christian VII
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_VII
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kvenjb/madmona...stian7_bio.htm
http://www.danskekonger.dk/biografi/ChrVII.html

Caroline Mathilde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Matilda_of_Wales (in other are photos of her)
http://www.kvinfo.dk/side/170/bio/591/

Daniela 11-08-2006 05:33 AM

Look here:
About Christian VII:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/ind...ic,3948.0.html

About Caroline Mathilde:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/ind...ic,8436.0.html


Daniela

norwegianne 07-12-2007 10:15 AM

A new movie is in the works about Caroline Mathilde and Struensee - Fyens Stiftstidende - Indland/Fyn - Zentropa vil lave film om Struensee og Caroline Mathilde Lars von Trier is working on the script.

betina 03-22-2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne (Post 639908)
A new movie is in the works about Caroline Mathilde and Struensee - Fyens Stiftstidende - Indland/Fyn - Zentropa vil lave film om Struensee og Caroline Mathilde Lars von Trier is working on the script.

Its going to be so great. and mads Mikkelsen id going to play Struensee :-)) we just have to wait untill 2012 http://www.zentropa.dk/titles/film_u...s/?movieId=650

Lenora 03-22-2011 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by betina (Post 1219261)
Its going to be so great. and mads Mikkelsen id going to play Struensee :-)) we just have to wait untill 2012 KOMMENDE FILM fra Zentrop. Kvinden der drømte om en mand, Hævnen, Melandcholia

Great news!
I think it will be a great work based on Queen's sacrifice,when will it be released?

Furienna 03-23-2011 06:29 AM

I hope that movie will be shown over here in Sweden.

Becksen 03-23-2011 10:04 AM

The actress whom is gonna portray Caroline mathilde is swedish! :)

Furienna 03-26-2011 05:42 AM

Oh... What's her name?

Danish_Royalist 05-06-2011 03:21 PM

:previous: Alicia Vikander :)


Can't wait for this movie

Lenora 05-06-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danish_Royalist (Post 1249381)
:previous: Alicia Vikander :)


Can't wait for this movie

When will it be released?

Danish_Royalist 05-06-2011 04:13 PM

It'll be released in 2012. Don't know which month yet :) :previous:

Furienna 05-08-2011 11:03 AM

Hmmm... I've never heard of Alicia Vikander. I will still watch the movie though.

Lenora 07-10-2011 02:14 AM

As I've understood Caroline-Matilde's kids remained good friends for all their life,her daughter was recognised as legitimate though her father was not the king

Lenora 02-08-2012 12:12 PM

An official trailer to the new coming movie about Queen Caroline Mathilde.
En kongelig affære trailer DK - YouTube

Furienna 02-09-2012 10:51 PM

Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to see that movie so badly!

Muhler 08-26-2013 12:09 PM

The keen movie goer and history buff will by now be familiar with Struensee and how he eventually...ahem, lost his head.

From the State Archives:

Here is first Queen Caroline Mathilde's confession of her having an affair with Struensee: Caroline Mathildes underskriver sin tilståelse, 1772 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Then the divorce papers signed by I don't know how many nobles with seal and all: Caroline Mathildes skilsmissedom, 1772 -2. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Caroline Mathildes skilsmissedom, 1772 -1. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Caroline Mathilde's signature: Caroline Mathildes underskrift, 1772 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

- Goodbye, don't let the door hit you on the way out...

But Struensee as you know, got a rough time as well. Here is first his crest: Struensees våbenskjold, grevepatent 1771. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
And later on the annullment of him being made a count: Annullering af Struensees grevepatent, 1772. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

It is written in Latin, if you are interested in reading the document.

But most if his reforms were ratified after his death and here are some of them: Struensees reformer - forordninger og kabinetsordrer - a set on Flickr

One can't help feeling feel sorry for Caroline Mathilde, Christian VII wasn't exactly an ideal husband. Here are some drawings made by him and they are... well, yes: Christian 7.'s tegninger og portrætter - a set on Flickr

Biri 01-18-2015 07:37 AM

I swa the film yesterday! Marvellous (actors especially)!

Londena 01-18-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Biri (Post 1741809)
I swa the film yesterday! Marvellous (actors especially)!

I agree, such a good film!

Furienna 01-18-2015 08:34 AM

I hope I will see it too, some day when I get an opportunity.

CyrilVladisla 11-28-2016 08:21 PM

After Christian VII and Caroline Mathilde were divorced, the Danish authorities deported their former Queen to Hanover. Due to her behavior, King George III preferred not to have her back in England.

Countessmeout 11-28-2016 09:15 PM

The Danish didn't deport her. George III certainly didn't turn his back on his sister. He in fact sent an ambassador to Denmark to see his sister freed from prison, likely sparing her life. The ambassador helped negotiate her release which included her settlement at her brother's castle in celle. She and her brother would remain in correspondence.

eya 01-23-2017 10:45 AM

Danish history’s most famous love child ensured the enlightenment never dimmed – The Post

rominet09 01-23-2017 06:17 PM

Such a wonderful film with such marvellous actors !!!! I loved it !

rominet09 01-23-2017 06:21 PM

very very interesting... thanks for posting !:flowers:

Kataryn 05-30-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 1942652)
After Christian VII and Caroline Mathilde were divorced, the Danish authorities deported their former Queen to Hanover. Due to her behavior, King George III preferred not to have her back in England.


It was not due to her behaviour but due to the people who remained loyal to her that George did not want her back in London. He feared that her court (like her court in Celle did) would become the home of Danish reformers turned revolutionaries. Sending her to Celle was a kind act of the king for his little sister, for Celle and the dukedom of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel was governed by a good friends from her childhood who were family to her: dukes Ernst and Karl of Mecklenburg-Strehlitz were the brothers of George's queen Sophie Charlotte and thus Caroline Mathilde's In-laws. She was very much loved by her family there and by the people of Celle because she believed in Struensee's ideas of enlightenment and opened up her court to the people. Her brother had forced the Danish to give back her dowry and let her have it, so she had enough money to spend on her palace in Celle, her gardens and her people.



it is known that her son Frederick (who for his whole life was very close to his half-sister Louise Auguste from the love affair with Dr. Struensee) planned to get her back to Denmark as soon as he took over the reign for his father. But he was still a child when his mother died from a disease she had gotten on carin g for a little girl she had taken on because she missed her own children so much.



So the real tragic was that she lost Struensee and then died herself so young that neither he nor she could see the changes they had brought to Denmark taking hold under her son as king.

rominet09 05-30-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 2117702)
It was not due to her behaviour but due to the people who remained loyal to her that George did not want her back in London. He feared that her court (like her court in Celle did) would become the home of Danish reformers turned revolutionaries. Sending her to Celle was a kind act of the king for his little sister, for Celle and the dukedom of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel was governed by a good friends from her childhood who were family to her: dukes Ernst and Karl of Mecklenburg-Strehlitz were the brothers of George's queen Sophie Charlotte and thus Caroline Mathilde's In-laws. She was very much loved by her family there and by the people of Celle because she believed in Struensee's ideas of enlightenment and opened up her court to the people. Her brother had forced the Danish to give back her dowry and let her have it, so she had enough money to spend on her palace in Celle, her gardens and her people.



it is known that her son Frederick (who for his whole life was very close to his half-sister Louise Auguste from the love affair with Dr. Struensee) planned to get her back to Denmark as soon as he took over the reign for his father. But he was still a child when his mother died from a disease she had gotten on carin g for a little girl she had taken on because she missed her own children so much.



So the real tragic was that she lost Struensee and then died herself so young that neither he nor she could see the changes they had brought to Denmark taking hold under her son as king.

Thank you for this info... this story is so heartbreaking.....

CyrilVladisla 05-30-2018 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rominet09 (Post 2117816)
Thank you for this info... this story is so heartbreaking.....

It was informative to learn that Caroline had relatives in Celle to rely on. Without them she would have been totally abandoned. That also would be heartbreaking.

Kataryn 05-30-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 2117828)
It was informative to learn that Caroline had relatives in Celle to rely on. Without them she would have been totally abandoned. That also would be heartbreaking.


If you saw the movie "A Royal Affair", you could see that the Danish king had sent Caroline Mathilde's best friend and lady-in-waiting Louise von Plessen away from court because she had once too often chosen to speak for the queen. Louise was offered a new home my Caroline Mathilde's brother in Celle, so when Caroline Mathilde came there, she was already awaited by her best friend. Plus her sister Augusta (who was also her godmother) was the wife of the then duke of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel (and the nephew of Juliane Marie of Denmark, who had been a princess of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel) and the sisters became close again, much to the annoyance of Juliane Marie in Denmark.



That was another point I think why George III. sent his little sister to Celle, because so she could be close to her eldest sister (who had only married two years before Caroline Mathilde, so for a long time had been like the second mother to her) and thus he could annoy Juliane, who was too much of a friend with Frederick the Grand of Prussia to let him sleep in peace.


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