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morhange 07-04-2006 03:27 PM

Royal Names
 
Something that just hit me earlier when I was reading hellomagazine's online article about the Luxembourg wedding anniversary.

All of the current Crown Princesses in Europe, and most of them are commoners, still have very regal names. You have Mary, Mathilde, Maxima, Letizia, Sophie, Maria Teresa (because she's a commoner, but her name is still very royal). The only one which sort of isn't is Mette-Marit, but it easily sounds just as regal and pretty, and it's very unique.

Very interesting that these princes chose to marry commoner ladies with such gloriously royal names. Thank goodness, otherwise we might be gossiping about Crown Princess Cindy of Denmark, or the Hereditary Princess Gretchen (not that there's anything wrong with these names, but I think you get what I mean)

Lovelydiana 07-04-2006 03:31 PM

I agree with you Morhange.

KikkiB 07-04-2006 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by morhange
Something that just hit me earlier when I was reading hellomagazine's online article about the Luxembourg wedding anniversary.

All of the current Crown Princesses in Europe, and most of them are commoners, still have very regal names. You have Mary, Mathilde, Maxima, Letizia, Sophie, Maria Teresa (because she's a commoner, but her name is still very royal). The only one which sort of isn't is Mette-Marit, but it easily sounds just as regal and pretty, and it's very unique.

Very interesting that these princes chose to marry commoner ladies with such gloriously royal names. Thank goodness, otherwise we might be gossiping about Crown Princess Cindy of Denmark, or the Hereditary Princess Gretchen (not that there's anything wrong with these names, but I think you get what I mean)

Before CP Haakon married CP Mette-Marit, my friends and I talked about how strange it would be if we got a princess called Bente (to no offence for those who have this name), which is a very common (16761 have this name) and not very unique Norwegian girls name. Thankfully, we didn't, but I guess you can't be blamed for the name your parents chose. Though, as you say, Mette-Marit is more unique, and it is only 23 women in Norway who has this exact name. Though, Mette (9881) and Marit (28526), seperately, are more common.

Statistics found at: www.ssb.no

norwegianne 07-04-2006 03:39 PM

When Mette-Marit married Haakon, there was talk about getting her a more regal sounding name in one editorial or something like that.

The interesting part is that when Haakon's grandmother - Crown Princess Märtha married Crown Prince Olav - there were talk about giving her a more Norwegian-sounding name and, I can't remember which, at the moment, but either Mette or Marit were one of the names suggested. It should be noted that Märtha was Swedish and married Olav less than three decades after the union between Norway and Sweden was dissolved, thus feelings in Norway might've been suspected of being a bit tense towards Swedes...

I'm personally just thrilled that Sonja's spelling her name the way she is, and not an alternate Norwegian spelling - which is actually discouraged now, but there are people who spell their name that way - Sånnja. It's the way it is pronounced, yes, but it looks awful in writing, and not very regal.

I guess it is important with the recent influx in commoner brides - to consider what you name your child ;) You never know where they'll be in the future.

queenofcelts 07-04-2006 03:41 PM

I agree with Morhange too.
If Albert will marry Charlene Wittstock, princess Charlene will sound quite regal too. Almost all crown princess have names started with M.

norwegianne 07-04-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KikkiB
Before CP Haakon married CP Mette-Marit, my friends and I talked about how strange it would be if we got a princess called Bente (to no offence for those who have this name), which is a very common (16761 have this name) and not very unique Norwegian girls name. Thankfully, we didn't, but I guess you can't be blamed for the name your parents chose. Though, as you say, Mette-Marit is more unique, and it is only 23 women in Norway who has this exact name. Though, Mette (9881) and Marit (28526), seperately, are more common.

Statistics found at: www.ssb.no

The combination of Mette and Marit might be because of a series of books for young girls printed in the '50s and '60s - wherein the heroine was called Mette-Marit, and was a film-star and a ballerina and what-not...

The books were re-issued around the time of Haakon and Mette-Marit's wedding, but I don't think they caught on very well.

KikkiB 07-04-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne
When Mette-Marit married Haakon, there was talk about getting her a more regal sounding name in one editorial or something like that.

The interesting part is that when Haakon's grandmother - Crown Princess Märtha married Crown Prince Olav - there were talk about giving her a more Norwegian-sounding name and, I can't remember which, at the moment, but either Mette or Marit were one of the names suggested. It should be noted that Märtha was Swedish and married Olav less than three decades after the union between Norway and Sweden was dissolved, thus feelings in Norway might've been suspected of being a bit tense towards Swedes...

I'm personally just thrilled that Sonja's spelling her name the way she is, and not an alternate Norwegian spelling - which is actually discouraged now, but there are people who spell their name that way - Sånnja. It's the way it is pronounced, yes, but it looks awful in writing, and not very regal.

I guess it is important with the recent influx in commoner brides - to consider what you name your child ;) You never know where they'll be in the future.

I've also heard something about that, of Mette-Marit changing her name to something more royal (just didn't know how to put it in writing without sounding "republican" - so thank you :) ). Kind of stupid to ask someone to change their name just because it's too common, whatever that is :eek: I doubt that parents, in their wildest dreams, think of whether their children will become prince/princess when they think of names! But parents nowadays ought to, since there is a slight chance that their bundles of joys might end up at Skaugum or the Palace in 30 years time :D

Shadiyah2086 09-19-2006 02:47 PM

If Prince Harry married Chelsy Davy (I'm praying he doesn't) would she have to change her name so that it would sound more regal cause Princess Chelsy doesn't really cut it for me.

Mandy 09-19-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadiyah2086
If Prince Harry married Chelsy Davy (I'm praying he doesn't) would she have to change her name so that it would sound more regal cause Princess Chelsy doesn't really cut it for me.

When and if Prince Harry marries, his wife will be known as Princess Henry of Wales unless HM the Queen gives him/them another title like she did when Sophie and Edward Wessex were married.

magnik 09-19-2006 02:59 PM

Mette-Marit - I found that the name Mette - is Danish and Norwegian pet form of Margaret; Marit - is Norwegian and Swedich form of Margaret. Than it's very royal name/names I think.

Sonja - German, Scandinavian, Finnish and Slovene form of Sonya [SON-ya, or SAWN-ya]- which is Russian pet form from Sophia.

Chelsy - Chelsie, Chelsey from Chelsea [CHEL-see] from the name of a district in London meaning "landing place for chalk or limestone" in Old English.

Princess Robijn 09-19-2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KikkiB
I've also heard something about that, of Mette-Marit changing her name to something more royal (just didn't know how to put it in writing without sounding "republican" - so thank you :) ). Kind of stupid to ask someone to change their name just because it's too common, whatever that is :eek: I doubt that parents, in their wildest dreams, think of whether their children will become prince/princess when they think of names! But parents nowadays ought to, since there is a slight chance that their bundles of joys might end up at Skaugum or the Palace in 30 years time :D

Didn't Pss Laurentien of the Netherlands changed her first name.. wasn't it Petra before she married Prince Constantijn??

RachelD 09-19-2006 03:51 PM

Wow. Well, how would the public take it if thier crown prince married a woman that had a fairly common name?...for example Susan, Jessica, Nadine...would they mind if the new crown princess didn't change her name? Just imagine...Princess Rachel...that doesn't sound right. Now, I know I'd be carrying the husbands name and title and it wouldn't just be Princess and then my name...but I'm just imagining.:rolleyes:

magnik 09-19-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Robijn
Didn't Pss Laurentien of the Netherlands changed her first name.. wasn't it Petra before she married Prince Constantijn??

Yes, Petra Laurentien Brinkhorst.

RachelD 09-19-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by magnik
Yes, Petra Laurentien Brinkhorst.

Did she legally remove her first name, or does she still have it but goes by Laurentien?

Rebafan81 09-19-2006 04:38 PM

What about Princess Mary, you can't more common then that. Has there ever been any talk about her changing her name? I think with the movement of royalty into the 21st century, your name should stay as it is. Just my opinion...

Henri M. 09-19-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelD
Did she legally remove her first name, or does she still have it but goes by Laurentien?

We do not administrate 'calling names' in the Netherlands. My registered names are Henri Antoine Marie but I can choose out of the three or even a different name. Often the first name is the 'calling name', but not always.

Princess Laurentien by birth was registered as Petra Laurentien Brinkhorst, daughter of mr. Laurens-Jan Brinkhorst and mrs. Jantien Heringa.

Upon her marriage she wanted to be known as Princess Laurentien. Her own choice and it was a name she had all her life long.

magnik 09-19-2006 04:52 PM

About Laurentien's names
"Before going to high school she decided she wanted to be called Laurentien, and so 'changed' her name." http://www.christinesroyalty.net/roy...aurentien.html

About CPss Mary's name, it's not common but popular. Mary was the name of many queens and princesses etc.

Sancia 09-19-2006 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by magnik
Mette-Marit - I found that the name Mette - is Danish and Norwegian pet form of Margaret; Marit - is Norwegian and Swedich form of Margaret. Than it's very royal name/names I think.

I found that Mette was a form of Mathilde/Maud.

RachelD 09-19-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Henri M.
We do not administrate 'calling names' in the Netherlands. My registered names are Henri Antoine Marie but I can choose out of the three or even a different name. Often the first name is the 'calling name', but not always.

Princess Laurentien by birth was registered as Petra Laurentien Brinkhorst, daughter of mr. Laurens-Jan Brinkhorst and mrs. Jantien Heringa.

Upon her marriage she wanted to be known as Princess Laurentien. Her own choice and it was a name she had all her life long.

So her name is still Petra Laurentien but she just prefers to be called Laurentien...cool! My full name is Rachel Elizabeth...so if I wanted to go by Elizabeth instead of Rachel, I'd be doing the same thing that Laurentien did, right?

magnik 09-19-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danielane
I found that Mette was a form of Mathilde/Maud.

I check few sources Marit Mette came from Margareta, Margrethe, Margit, Margta, Margarthe. But I found that Mette came from as Low German form of Mathildis too.
http://www.20000-names.com/female_m_names_4.htm
http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources...eden/Greek.htm
http://www.behindthename.com/

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Originally Posted by RachelD
So her name is still Petra Laurentien but she just prefers to be called Laurentien...cool! My full name is Rachel Elizabeth...so if I wanted to go by Elizabeth instead of Rachel, I'd be doing the same thing that Laurentien did, right?

But is it legal in USA, to go by this name just becouse instead of the other or maybe you should register that?


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