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Toledo 07-03-2006 07:08 PM

Frankish & Holy Roman Empires, Germanic States & Families, Central Europe
Now, this is going to be taking a long time to cover, Germany in it's two previous incarnations as the Holy Roman Empire (era of Emperor by elections) and the 19th German Empire (era of hereditary Emperors) was very much like Imperial India. In the sense it was form by states, city states, etc. Comes to mind the situation in Ancient Greece and Middle Ages Italy with so many city states and local rulers. Many of these ancient German states were absorbed, eliminated or joined by war or marriage but each one had at some point it's own distinctive family of local rulers.

First Germany past and present with some great maps to give an idea of the amount of Dynastic Houses.

something on the family ties between the Emperors and the Czech Nobility:
Emperors of Holy Roman Empire and their Czech Roots

Toledo 07-03-2006 07:09 PM

Genealogy of the Royal House of Hannover

Genealogy of the House(s) of Saxony
And a different link on the genealogy of Saxony (every site presents the information from a different angle and in different charts, so you decide which charts are more comfortable for your reading)

Genealogy of the Royal Family of Bavaria

This one is complicated, I never liked the charts with numbers before the names. It's like reading binary codes! I prefer the traditional family tree because it's easier on my eyes, but give it a try: Paul Theroff's genealogy for House of Hohenzollern

Warren 07-09-2006 01:41 AM

Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia
Here is a link to the Family Tree of Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia, current Head of the Imperial and Royal House of Hohenzollern.

Courtesy of juliamontague who originally posted this in the Hohenzollern thread at post #37.

Toledo 07-17-2006 12:11 AM

Another site about the Genealogy of Bavaria

Warren 08-14-2006 01:12 AM

Here is a Family Tree of the Dukes of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg. It is easier to read at 125% or 150% magnification.

The link to the site of Schloss Glücksburg which contains family information (and this Family Tree) is:

Furienna 08-19-2006 08:03 PM

It's really interesting to see how so many of our Swedish queens were born as German princesses: Catherine of Sachsen-Lauenburg, Christina of Holstein-Gottorp, Marie Eleonore of Brandenburg, Hedwig Eleonore of Holstein-Gottorp, Louise Ulrice of Prussia, Frederice of Baden, Hedwig Charlotte Elisabeth of Oldenburg and Victoria of Baden come to mind. Also, Ulrice Eleonore of Denmark, Josephine of Leuchtenberg, Louise of the Netherlands and Margareth of Connaught had German mothers and Louise Mountbatten was born as a princess of Battenberg. Or current king Carl XIV Gustaf's mother Sibylla of Sachsen-Coburg and Gotha was also born as a German princess, but she never became a queen. Our current queen, Silvia Sommerlath, was also German, but she was born as a commoner. I guess this happened because there were so many German kingdoms and duchies in Europe back in the old days, that non-German princes and kings often had to get their wives from one of them.

magnik 08-20-2006 01:30 PM

Smth from me:







Holstein (Schleswig)










Furienna 08-20-2006 04:12 PM

What about Brandenburg, Celle, Nassau etc?

magnik 08-21-2006 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Furienna
What about Brandenburg, Celle, Nassau etc?

Many links here: - margraves and houses

Mecklenburgs and their spouses

magnik 08-21-2006 07:29 PM

Furienna, do you mean this like Sofia Dorothea's (wife of George I) father Herzog von Braunschweig-Zelle? If not, could you tell more about Celle? Maybe it will be easier to find them.

Furienna 08-21-2006 07:38 PM

Yes, a Brittish queen, who was inprisoned as long as her husband George I was the king, was born a Princess of Celle.

magnik 08-21-2006 08:12 PM

Ok Furienna, that's what I found about her and her family.


Here you're about Sophie Dorothea on Geneweb;i=103218
and on Master Index to royal Genealogical Data

and here

and Herzog von Braunschweig-Luneburg from Europäische Länder
and few persons from B-Celle

Infos about Celle town
and on Wiki

I've hope it help.

Lady Jennifer 08-21-2006 08:14 PM

Here is the link to her Wikipedia article:

HRH Kerry 08-25-2006 07:43 PM

OMG! I tried to following the descendants of Empress Maria Theresa's children and got so lost.:ohmy: I thought that I would be able to contribute some info in this thread but I'm better off reading the links that you guys provided. Thanks to you all for your diligence and hard work.:clap:

HRH Kerry 08-25-2006 09:40 PM

I once stumbled upon a website that showed how the different monarchies are related. You were either somehow related to Queen Victoria or Empress Maria Teresa (?) I believe. I'll see if I can find that as that would link the German Houses.

magnik 08-26-2006 05:25 PM

Here you go kerry - Victoria and Maria Teresa:flowers:;i=89802

Julier von Badenth 06-25-2007 01:03 PM

Internet enigma
The Imperial Council of Princes and Counts of The Holy Roman Empire , Founded 1489 , The Imperial Nobility of Germany .

would it be possible to find out who is the comic behind this internet address
the most ridiculuous of all royal stories indeed

Gaston Roger Julier Freiherr v. Badenthal

kirstengrafin 07-19-2007 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Julier von Badenth (Post 631093)
The Imperial Council of Princes and Counts of The Holy Roman Empire , Founded 1489 , The Imperial Nobility of Germany .

would it be possible to find out who is the comic behind this internet address
the most ridiculuous of all royal stories indeed

Gaston Roger Julier Freiherr v. Badenthal

You can determine who registered the domain name by plugging the website address into the search box found on this site: - whois domain name search & lookup

Kirsten Gräfin von Moltke

Jason R Maier esq 02-22-2008 12:47 PM

Thurn und Taxis
Anyone know where I can find a genealogy of the princely family?

Reason being, I like history and I'm trying to figure out who's next in line for Head of the Household (that is, until Prince Albert II has a male heir).

ILOVEABBA 02-22-2008 01:46 PM

Thrun Und Taxis Family Tree
Hi Jason,

Google for Paul Theroff `AN ONLINE GOTHA`. It is a truly excellent site full of constantly updated and very comprehensive family trees of all of the Royal, Princely and even most of the higher nobility from across Europe. That site also does Royal news which gives a really good up to the minute of who is engaged, who is having a baby etc, amongst the Royal Families.

Hope this helps, i think that site will give you all the information you might need.

all the best


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