Royal ladies court-trains/coats


If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.
See posts with no answers
Status
Not open for further replies.
the danish court seems to have the moust love for trains
close followed by the swedish
 
Canonical Trains

This is available from art.com, Mathilde Bonaparte by Dubufe:
11721095.jpg


Empres Eugenie (source of this print unknown, original at Museo Napoleonico):
04-002523.jpg


A good picture of Empress Elisabeth (Sisi) is at:
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/gifs/sissi.jpg

And a trio of Royal ladies (Princess Alexandra, Queen Louise, and Alexandra's daughter Victoria) from the wonderful Lafayette Studio collection of the Victoria and Albert Museum:
http://www.lafayette.150m.com/geo00418.html

These are trains!

And they're gorgeous!
 
From http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/ctCostume.html what I found:

"Gowns of cloth of gold and cloth of silver were reserved for the Empress and the daughters of the Emperor. When the Empress wore cloth of gold (generally only at their coronation), the Grand Duchesses could wear cloth of silver. As most Empresses preferred cloth of silver (it was more flattering, and far less heavy), the Grand Duchesses rarely had the opportunity to wear it except at their weddings, when it was required. For other occasions, the Grand Duchesses wore velvet gowns in a color of their choosing, which was reserved for their exclusive use.
Attendants to the Empress (or after 1894, Empresses) and the Imperial family wore court gowns in two colors, garnet red and emerald green. The hierarchy was sophisticated and rigid. The highest title was that of Chief Stewardess of the Household, who, as a married woman, wore a green velvet court gown embroidered in gold, with a train, the length of which was determined by her rank (chin'). After the Chief Stewardess came Ladies-in-waiting (second and third class in the ranks of the Imperial Household, determined by length of service.). The Ladies-in-waiting were married women of noble birth selected by the Empress. They also wore the green velvet, but with shorter trains. The fourth class of female attendants was Full Maids of Honor of the Bedchamber. These unmarried women of the highest nobility wore the same types of gowns, but in crimson velvet. They also had small capes, which covered the bare shoulders revealed by married ladies. These women served the empresses exclusively. In the mid-nineteenth century, there also existed the positions of Chief Ladies (the fifth class) who were the equivalent of Ladies-in-Waiting, but served the Grand Duchesses and Princesses of the Blood, and the sixth class position of Chief-Ladies-In-Waiting and Maids of Honor of the Bedchamber. By 1881, the fifth through seventh classes were abolished as redundant."

http://www.bestofrussia.ca/style3.html
http://lafayette.150m.com/gra2448a.html
 
i like when royals have trains on thier gala dresses it looks more dranatic
 
Something interesting links about
- trains Train (clothing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- court uniforms and dress Court uniform and dress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

About Empress Elisabeth (Sissi) black court gownhttp://www.kunsthistorischesmuseum.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page538.html


From Russian's court:
Empress Alexandra's court dresses
- Jewels of the Romanovs Costumes and Portraits - Alexandra Court Dress
- Jewels of the Romanovs Costumes and Portraits - Alexandra Court Gown

Grand Duchess Xenia's court dress
Jewels of the Romanovs Costumes and Portraits - Grand Duchess Xenia Court Dress

Baroness Graevenitz in Russian Court dress, by Lafayette 1900

Imperial Court Costume - Alexander Palace Time Machine
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Last edited by a moderator:
magnik said:
About Empress Elisabeth (Sissi) black court gownhttp://www.kunsthistorischesmuseum.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page538.html


Grand Duchess Xenia's court dress
Jewels of the Romanovs Costumes and Portraits - Grand Duchess Xenia Court Dress
Click to expand...

Hai Magnik,

I love Grand Duchess Xenia's Gown.....especially the Train!:wub:
Thanks for the lovely pictures
A:angel: Gorgeous! Which one do you like the best?


magnik said:
Why Elizabeth II had different trains in 1953 http://www.fashion-era.com/images/SocialHistory/coro500jun.jpg and now Glittering Royal Events Message Board: Re: State Opening of Parliament ? Because first was a coronation and present is just for state opening ?
Click to expand...

Magnik,
You are right, that is why there is a difference.
The actual Coronation Mantle/Cloak is only used for the Coronation.
It's Beautiful though..... The Detail on it is Magnificent....:wub:

A:angel:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Angelique said:
magnik said:
About Empress Elisabeth (Sissi) black court gownhttp://www.kunsthistorischesmuseum.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page538.html


Grand Duchess Xenia's court dress
Jewels of the Romanovs Costumes and Portraits - Grand Duchess Xenia Court Dress
Click to expand...

Hai Magnik,

I love Grand Duchess Xenia's Gown.....especially the Train!:wub:
Thanks for the lovely pictures
A:angel: Gorgeous! Which one do you like the best?
Click to expand...

This dress is absolutely beautiful! It would be lovely to be able to see this in person. Does anyone know how long the train is?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Xenia's Dress....

sgl said:
This dress is absolutely beautiful! It would be lovely to be able to see this in person. Does anyone know how long the train is?
Click to expand...

I agree sql, this Gown is really Gorgeous and also SO regal.:wub: From what I have read the train is 4 meters long. The ladies had their own dedicated train bearers at the Russian court.... I believe that some of these Gowns are on display..... But you will have to travel to Moscow!:whistling:
Ciao,
A:angel:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Few trains belong to
- Queen Alexandra http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2070/2096050630_27eecab129_o.jpg

- Empress Elisabeth of Austria black court dress http://www.wieninternational.at/files/9-10/9162/12-block030.jpg

- Marchioness of Londonderry http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1158_lafayette/popup.php?img_id=454

- Archduchess Marie-Christine's wedding
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/11506837.html?citemId=787621-85

http://www.ppe-agency.com/preview.php?start=45&id=27316&zoektype=2&search=06-12-2008%20Mechelen

http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/11507140.html?citemId=787621-47

http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/11514413.html?citemId=787621-11

- Nobel Prizes 2008
CPss Victoria
http://www.aftonbladet.se/sofismode/article3965528.ab?service=galleryFlash

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?eventId=83979968#

http://www.dn.se/DNet/road/Classic/article/47/jsp/bildspel.jsp?a=862347&d=10

http://www.dn.se/DNet/road/Classic/article/47/jsp/bildspel.jsp?a=862379&d=10 pic #6

Pss Madeleine the same event
http://www.dn.se/DNet/road/Classic/article/47/jsp/bildspel.jsp?a=862379&d=10 pic #7


- New Year Gala in Denmark 1 Jan 2009
CPss Mary recycle her pre-wedding gala gown
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/editorial/all/coverage/806852.html
 
Something about the rules on edwardian times:
Full Court Dress: low bodice, short sleeves, and train to dress not less than three yards in length from the shoulders. Whether the train is cut round or square is a matter of inclination or fashion. The width at the end should be 54 inches. It is also imperative that a presentation dress should be white if the person presented be an unmarried lady and it is also the fashion for married ladies to wear white on their presentation unless their age rendered their doing so unsuitable The white dresses worn by either debutante or married ladies may be trimmed with either colored or white flowers according to individual taste.
High Court Dress: dress of silk satin or velvet may be worn at Their Majesties Courts and on other State occasions by ladies to whom from illness infirmity or advancing age the present low Court dress is inappropriate. Bodices in front cut square or heart shaped which may be filled in with white only either transparent or lined at the back high or cut down three quarters height. Sleeves to elbow either thick or transparent. Trains, gloves, and feathers as usual. It is necessary for ladies who wish to appear in High Court Dress to obtain Royal permission through the Lord Chamberlain. This regulation does not apply to ladies who have already received permission to wear high dress. [...]


from Edwardian Promenade » 2007 » December
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

LadyFinn
The Crown Princess Couple's 10th Wedding Anniversary: 19th June 2020
2
Replies
37
Views
5K
LadyFinn
LadyFinn
Iluvbertie
British Royal Family Engagements 2020
2 3
Replies
85
Views
15K
Iluvbertie
Iluvbertie
A
Future and Popularity of the Thai Monarchy
2 3 4
Replies
99
Views
11K
Tatiana Maria
T
WreathOfLaurels
Royal Wedding Gowns by Valentino
Replies
19
Views
4K
CyrilVladisla
CyrilVladisla
carlota
  • Locked
Interiors of the non-official royal houses and residences
Replies
0
Views
3K
carlota
carlota

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom