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Old 08-11-2015, 03:35 PM
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Very few people looked to Diana for her 'style'. She was not a beautiful woman nor did she dress with style or flair.

She had no style. Her daytime clothes were dreadful and no one copied them. Her evening clothes were dreadful and no one bothered to copy her.

Her taste was horrible. Her lack of fashion sense was commented on by her sister Sarah's roomate.

Her lack of taste is evident in the way Highgrove and Kensingston Palace were decorated.

The mix of bold colors and patterns was not a style that was copied.

Her style before her marriage was dreadful. Her wedding dress was her over the top 'style'.

She always competitive wanted the biggest and boldest of things.
She took the largest engagement ring and followed it up by the longest, wedding dress train.
Diana's style was very much copied. Her fashion later on, took the world by storm. Royal ladies today probably still feel inspired by Diana's fashion.
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Old 08-11-2015, 03:43 PM
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No one copied Diana.

A measure of her popularity can be determine by the number of babies named Diana. There was not a surge in the name. Not when she joined the royal family and while she was a member of the royal family and not when she died.

There are no examples of others copying Diana.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:16 PM
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Diana, POW (r.i.p) was a trend setter, from hair cuts to clothing if my memory serves me correctly. She her also deceased and we have a saying in Ireland ' never speak ill of the dead'. I believe she is remembered for her work ethic and her commitment to others more than her clothing and that is a wonderful thing.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:25 PM
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Prince Charles started in their engagement interview that one of the things that attracted him to Diana was that she had a very good idea of 'style and design.' Everything I saw about the interior of her homes was beautiful. No doubt designers and her friends at Vogue gave her advice, and everyone goes through a period of learning their own style. I remember her appearance as being charming at the time. Everything was overdone in the early 80s. Hair was big, dresses were big. There were the 'New Romantics' who influenced fashion through their music videos. Diana might have followed the trend that the designers were putting out then, but I know that the ladies' wear stores, the fashion magazines, and our own wardrobes were definitely influenced by the young Princess of Wales.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:31 PM
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No one copied Diana.

A measure of her popularity can be determine by the number of babies named Diana. There was not a surge in the name. Not when she joined the royal family and while she was a member of the royal family and not when she died.

There are no examples of others copying Diana.
i was tempted not to reply and just ignore as obviously you are not a fan. but "No one copied Diana" - really?

Diana's impact on the British fashion industry was much heralded - and her style was copied around the world. I lived through it and I have all the magazines ... and the friends who had to have the 'lady di' cut.

The following are excerpts from the book, 'Diana, fashion & style'

'Few people have had an impact on fashion in the same way as Princess Diana. As a public figure, the Princess's dress style was closely scrutinised by the press and the public. As a young princess, her clothes were romantic and demure but as her confidence grew, her style developed into that of an international celebrity: glamorous, elegant, and completely her own.'

'For Diana, clothes were part of a charisma captured in the camera eye. But the process became increasingly thought-out and planned as the Princess took control of how she was represented.'

'Diana, Princess of Wales, has often been called a ‘fashion icon’ and has been credited with almost single-handedly reviving the British fashion industry…Susan Maxwell, who brought out an illustrated biography of the Princess of Wales as early as 1982, declared: ‘For the first time, the Royal Family had in their ranks a woman whose age, size, coiffure and taste reflected the mass of the market. Because she was beautiful, others wanted too look like her’.'

'Diana’s early admirers and enterprising retailers focused on the fashion features that were easy to replicate. In an article in Time magazine in August 1981, it was reported that Lady Diana was ‘already imitated – the hair, the clothes, the ruffled collars – but never duplicated’ and Jane Owen remembered two years later that ‘Lady Di’ blouses ‘run up by the mass market were selling like hot cakes’. The British department store Marks & Spencer sold many of these replicas and brought out their own Diana fashion book in 1984. Lyn Morris, Senior Selector for Marks & Spencer ladies’ blouses, recalled: ‘As soon as Diana did that engagement picture, our fastest selling style was a side-tying Diana blouse’ sold at £9.99.''

- See more at: Discover More About Princess Diana's Standing As A Fashion Icon
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:32 PM
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Compare Princess Caroline to Diana.

Princess Caroline clothes were tailored.
Diana had clothes custom made that were matronly.

Diana's maternity clothes were just sacks.
Princess Caroline was pregnant during the 80s and her clothes did not have the ridiculous bows.

Princess Caroline is wearing a white shirt and jacket in 1971. She was only 14

The Prince Albert and Princess Caroline of Monaco receive gifts after... News Photo | Getty Images

Here is Stephanie and Caroline in 1983.
Monte Carlo Tennis Tournament In Monte Carlo, Monaco On March 30,... News Photo | Getty Images

Note Stephanie is wearing a business suit under her coat. Stephanie was 4 years younger than Diana. In 1983 she 18.

Diana had a dreadful sense of style.
Her supporters try to blame the decade but clearly other knew how to dress.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:42 PM
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I sure copied Diana in the 80's! I was the same height and very slim. I couldn't get enough of the Laura Ashley prints and ruffled collar blouses.

Later in the early 90's she inspired me to buy and wear double breasted coat dresses. I loved them! I still have two.. a black one and a hunter green plaid.

I didn't look nearly as sensational as she did however. Diana looked spectacular most of the time and the fashion establishment at that time.. British and American Vogue, VF International Best Dressed Committee, Anita Wintour...all concurred.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:44 PM
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To really doubt the impact of Diana's style (whether one liked it or not) is, I think a bit silly. I think anyone who was alive during that era - or anyone who has any interest in fashion - would be aware of it. I also think sometimes people say things that are quite obviously untrue because they like to stir people up and watch how they react.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:04 PM
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I lived through the 80s and 90s and I did not wear any of the ridiculous outfits Diana wore.

I shopped at stores that only sold classic clothes.

The hair salons never featured a Diana hairstyle.

Some people are confusing fads with fashion.

A classic style never goes out of fashion.

The Madonna fad of wearing a brassiere over a blouse was not a fashion trend I followed.

If some people wanted to follow Madonna's fashion style they did but most did not.

Madonna was a bigger fashion icon than Diana.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:05 PM
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The Princesses of Monaco were in the public eye since they were children and had a mother living in with them to teach them how to dress.

Diana had to learn to dress for the camera all of a sudden in 1980. From pictures I've seen of that era, she dressed very much like her peers until her engagement.



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Princess Caroline is wearing a white shirt and jacket in 1971. She was only 14

The Prince Albert and Princess Caroline of Monaco receive gifts after... News Photo | Getty Images

Here is Stephanie and Caroline in 1983.
Monte Carlo Tennis Tournament In Monte Carlo, Monaco On March 30,... News Photo | Getty Images

Note Stephanie is wearing a business suit under her coat. Stephanie was 4 years younger than Diana. In 1983 she 18.

Diana had a dreadful sense of style.
Her supporters try to blame the decade but clearly other knew how to dress.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:10 PM
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Within 24 hours of the announcement of Lady Diana's engagement her mother Frances took her over to British Vogue. For at least the next five years of her public life they were in charge of her sartorial image...and they did a fantastic job, imo!
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:21 PM
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I think that Diana's style was typical for a teenager. For helping out at the nursery, she wore practical clothes that matched. Everyone wore skirts more often in those days, even for things that ladies would likely wear jeans or casual trousers for now. After, her engagement, though, she was dressing more expensively and in keeping with her new status--with the obvious exception of the black strapless dress. That dress just didn't fit properly. In the winter of 1980/1981, I noticed that girls my age were wearing knickerbockers, a style that hadn't been around for quite some time. If that wasn't a Diana influence, I don't know what it was.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:21 PM
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Within 24 hours of the announcement of Lady Diana's engagement her mother Frances took her over to British Vogue. For the at least the next five years of her public life they were in charge of her sartorial image...and they did a fantastic job, imo!
Indeed. It wasn't an overnight change - there were plenty of hits and certainly plenty of misses - but from the mid-eighties onward, wow! And she just kept getting better and better from there, I think.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:24 PM
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The Princesses of Monaco were in the public eye since they were children and had a mother living in with them to teach them how to dress.

Diana had to learn to dress for the camera all of a sudden in 1980. From pictures I've seen of that era, she dressed very much like her peers until her engagement.
Most children learn to dress by the time they are 4 years old.

Diana went for the fads.
Caroline and her sister dressed in classic style.
(mostly...)

Diana's supporters want to blame the decade, rather than the woman who followed the fads.

You can choose to dress like Madonna or copy Alexis from Dynasty or you can choose to dress in classic clothes that do not go out of style.

Diana followed the fads until she was 30.
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I had a Diana hair cut and the blouses.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:39 PM
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Obviously I mean things like co-ordinating colours and choosing styles that look good on a person.

Diana was never a designer, true. She had professional help. There's nothing wrong with that.

Princess Anne wears 'classic clothes that don't go out of style' and is generally considered dowdy. As a young woman, though, she followed the trends. I've seen the pictures of her in mini-skirts.

The Duchess of Cambridge dressed 'down'-wearing the kind of dresses that could be bought in the usual shops--and was criticized for it. Many people wanted her to wear couture or at least very-high-end ready-to-wear. She was blamed for skirts that were too short and 'blowy' and hair that flew around too much.

Diana had a good haircut and wore good clothes. She made people aware of what was happening in British Fashion.

I didn't like her evening wardrobe after her separation and divorce, but her day clothes were definitely classic by the early 90s. Her suits and shift dresses are still in style.


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Most children learn to dress by the time they are 4 years old.

Diana went for the fads.
Caroline and her sister dressed in classic style.
(mostly...)

Diana's supporters want to blame the decade, rather than the woman who followed the fads.

You can choose to dress like Madonna or copy Alexis from Dynasty or you can choose to dress in classic clothes that do not go out of style.

Diana followed the fads until she was 30.
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Years ago I visited Kensington Palace and seen some of The late POW's evening dresses and I was struck by the beauty and craft manship. No photograph did them justice in my humble opinion. I was also struck by how tall and slender she must have been.
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I remember my mom wanting a 'Princess Diana' hairstyle in the 90s. She kept bringing pictures to her hairdresser, but the poor soul couldn't replicate it, no matter how hard she tried. My mom wore her hair short for as long as I can remember, and unto she saw Diana's style, she was happy with just your run-of-mill cropped cut. I think, in some ways Diana did set trends, and people who are dead-set on copying someone's style will do so, regardless of how awful it may look. In any case, I think like most of us, the woman had hits and misses when it came to her wardrobe items.


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Old 08-11-2015, 06:57 PM
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I don't think Diana would have been featured in so many magazines and on their covers if she had no sense of style. After all, Fergie wasn't! Nor would her clothing, including the wedding dress, have gone on display for years after her death if Diana hadn't been regarded as a fashion leader. Women who remember her will often reminisce, as they have this week when these unseen wedding photos have surfaced, "Oh, I bought magazines every week and pored over her makeup, her hair, her clothes and copied them."
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That display must have been a gorgeous thing to see.
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