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Old 06-24-2011, 07:14 PM
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I have perused information just recently regarding HM Queen Silvia. This information stated HM is a descendant of Portuguese/Brazilian royalty/aristocracy? Was the information correct? Incorrect?
As one can go back she is,through her Brazilian mother,a descendant of Portugese(even some Spanish) untitled nobility...

Maybe even royalty(King Afonso III of Portugal and Maria Peres de Enxara),as it is written in wikipedia,but I can't still trace the line ;-(
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Isn't Queen Silvia of Sweden born in Germany but of Brazilian heritage making Victoria, Carl Phillip, and Madeline part Brazilian.
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Her father was German and her mother was Brazilian. She was born in Germany, but lived in Brazil for many years as a child. So she's half Brazilian and her children are a quarter Brazilian.

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Questions about my ancestors

I am a lineal descendant of Duke Magnus II of Sachsen-Lauenburg (House Ascania and eldest son) and princess Sofia of Sweden (House Vasa). I have some questions about what this means (just of interest and for fun).

Can I rightfully say I am part of any of their houses?

The House of Vasa is extinct in the original agnatic line => no current head. Does that change anything?

Is there any way for a lineal descendant to claim anything regarding any of the houses (seeing there is no claimant of the head currently)?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:47 PM
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You are not "part of" but "descended from" two formerly reigning Houses.

In 1928 on the death of her childless brother Grand Duke Friedrich II of Baden, the former Princess Viktoria of Baden became the Vasa claimant to the Swedish throne. However, as she was married to Gustaf V, King of Sweden at the time, the Vasa and Bernadotte claims were united, merged and embodied in their eldest son, later King Gustav VI Adolf.

There is no Vasa headship to claim as the House is extinct in the male line and the female claim merged into the House of Bernadotte.
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Old 08-12-2014, 11:21 AM
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If I'm not completely mistaken, Sofia of Sweden (Victoria's grandmother) belonged to the house of Oldenburg, because the house of Vasa was already extinct by her time. But her family did have some ancestry from that house, which is why her brother Gustav would call himself "prince of Vasa" (which was really annoying to Carl XIV Johan, who was the first king of the Bernadotte line).
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Old 08-12-2014, 01:00 PM
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If I'm not completely mistaken, Sofia of Sweden (Victoria's grandmother) belonged to the house of Oldenburg, because the house of Vasa was already extinct by her time. But her family did have some ancestry from that house, which is why her brother Gustav would call himself "prince of Vasa" (which was really annoying to Carl XIV Johan, who was the first king of the Bernadotte line).

Furienna, you're mixing up two Swedish princesses called Sofia.

Sofia Vasa (1547-1611) was the daughter of Gustav I and Margareta Leijonhufvud and married Duke Magnus II of Sachsen-Lauenburg.

The second Sofia who was born in 1801 and died in 1865 was as you mentioned a daughter of Gustav IV Adolf and Fredrika of Baden and married her grandfathers half brother Leopold of Baden to unite the older and the younger branches of the House of Zähringen. Their daughter Victoria later married the future Gustav V of Sweden.

The later Sofia belonged to the House of Holstein-Gottorp which was a branch of the House of Oldenburg.

Funnily enough the Swedish branch of the House of Holstein-Gottorp didn't have the main claim to the throne when Adolf Fredrik was elected king. Instead it belonged to his cousin Paul who instead was chosen by his aunt Elisabeth to follow her on the Russian throne. He later married a German princess called Catherine of Anhalt-Zerbst and the rest as they say is history
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The House of Bernadotte:

Kingdom of Sweden - House of Bernadotte
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