Royal Cousins

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by morhange

Six modern monarchies have descendents from Queen Victoria: Great Britain of course, and Spain, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Luxembourg. And Belgium is descended from the same family as Queen V, the Coburgs.

That is the best short explanation on royal links I have ever read anywhere! :)

[Lady Jennifer]

Originally Posted by morhange

Six modern monarchies have descendents from Queen Victoria: Great Britain of course, and Spain, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Luxembourg. And Belgium is descended from the same family as Queen V, the Coburgs.

Leopold I of Belguim was Queen Victoria's uncle (brother to the Queen's mother) & the uncle of Prince Albert (brother to Albert's father). He was also the son-in-law of King George IV when he married Princess Charlotte....so he was also a cousin-in-law to Queen Victoria & nephew-in-law to his sister.

[Marengo]

I don't believe the Luxembourg RF descends from Queen Victoria. Only Princess Sybilla (nee Weiller) and her children do, through Princess Beatrice and her daughter Queen Ena.

[Furienna]

Victoria belonged to the house of Hannover. Her husband Albert was a Coburg.

[norwegianne]

Originally Posted by Furienna

Victoria belonged to the house of Hannover. Her husband Albert was a Coburg.

Her mother was a Coburg.

[Furienna]

Originally Posted by Norwegianne

Quote:
Originally Posted by Furienna
Victoria belonged to the house of Hannover. Her husband Albert was a Coburg.

Her mother was a Coburg.

Oh, I forgot to say this. Both Victoria's mother and Albert were Coburgs. Albert was Victoria's mother's brother's son, that is, her first cousin.

[magnik]

Franz Friedrich von Sachsen-Coburg-Saalfeld, Herzog von SCS (1750-1806) and his second wife Auguste Karoline,Grafin Reuss zu Ebersdorf (1757-1831) have 9 childrens. Two of them were:
- Ernst I (1784-1844), Herzog von Sachsen-Coburg-Saalfeld 1806-1826, Herzog von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha 1826-1844 ) with his first wife 1817-1826 div, Luise von Sachsen, Herzogin von Sachsen-Altenburg (1800-1831) has 2 sons, including Albert von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha, Prinz von SCG, Herzog von Sachsen and Prince Consort of Great Britain and Ireland (1819-1861);
- Victoria (1786-1861), Prinzessin von SCS, married twice, first with Furst Emich von Leiningen (1763-1814) two children; second with Edward Augustus von Hannover, Duke of Kent (1767-1820) - Queen Victoria (1819-1901).

http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...=0&color=&et=A

[puppigurl2005]

i was able to find a website devoted to Queen Victoria's Descendants. the creator gives detailed charts about every royal family that existed and who were related to Victoria. i don't think the site has been posted , and if it has, please let me know...I'm a little sketchy on the posting websites thing so I'll just give directions (i really don't want to be reprimanded again). anyways, just go on to any browser and type in descendants of queen victoria and it should be the second site listed. Hope this proves usefull to your cousin thread.

[SusanE]

Originally Posted by puppigurl2005

i was able to find a website devoted to Queen Victoria's Descendants. the creator gives detailed charts about every royal family that existed and who were related to Victoria. i don't think the site has been posted , and if it has, please let me know...I'm a little sketchy on the posting websites thing so I'll just give directions (i really don't want to be reprimanded again). anyways, just go on to any browser and type in descendants of queen victoria and it should be the second site listed. Hope this proves usefull to your cousin thread.

This may be the site you have in mind:

http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/QV_Descendants_Statistics.htm

[Royal Fan]

How is the Last Tsar (Nicholas II) Related to Elizabeth II

[magnik]

Originally Posted by Royal Fan

How is the Last Tsar (Nicholas II) Related to Elizabeth II

Few of their relationships:
http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...olor=;i=219876

[Leslie2006]

Originally Posted by Royal Fan

How is the Last Tsar (Nicholas II) Related to Elizabeth II

Nicholas II and his wife Alexandra were both first cousins to George V (Alexandra's mother Alice was a sister to George's father Edward VII; George and Nicholas' mothers, Dagmar (Marie Feodorovna) and Alix, were sisters.) So...Nicholas II would either be a second cousin or a second cousin twice removed to Elizabeth II through the Danish line, but I'm not sure. Anyone else know?

Christian IX - Alix - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II
Christian IX - MF - Nicholas II

She was also related to Nicholas II's wife Alexandra through Queen Victoria:

QV - Alice - Alix
QV - EVII - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II

AND Nicholas II and his wife, Alexandra, were also second cousins to each other.

[Leslie2006]

Actually, now that I've looked at it again I think they'd be FIRST cousins twice removed. Second cousins mean they're the same generation, and NII and EII obviously wouldn't be.

[fearghas]

they are second cousins twice removed.
Second cousins are of the same generation, the twice removed indicates how many generations further on one is from the other

[Furienna]

Well, the Brittish queen Alexandra and the Russian empress Dagmar (Maria) were two sisters from Denmark. Only that made the Brittish king George V and Tsar Nikolai II cousins. I also believe, that Nikolai's wife, Alix of Hessen, was Brittish queen Victoria's granddaughter and thus related to the Brittish royals. If Nikolai had gotten grandchildren, they would have been Queen Elizabeth II's third cousins in two different ways.

[Lady Bluffton]

I've always been fascinated by these intricate and extremely intertwined family trees -- gives a new dimension to why maybe the leading royals are "marrying out" (i.e. commoners like Mary Donaldson, Maxima, etc.). New blood is needed! Imagine what a series of genetic marker tests would be like for some of our fave royals!?!

[KikkiB]

Originally Posted by Lady Bluffton

I've always been fascinated by these intricate and extremely intertwined family trees -- gives a new dimension to why maybe the leading royals are "marrying out" (i.e. commoners like Mary Donaldson, Maxima, etc.). New blood is needed! Imagine what a series of genetic marker tests would be like for some of our fave royals!?!

I've also been thinking about the genetics of the royal families of Europe. I know that King Olav and CP Märtha asked a genetics-guy whether or not it was wise for them to marry, since they were first cousins.

But then again, there might be an advantage of the close relations. Say -heavens forbid - that someone should need a kidney or something, a match would more easily be found. At least I think so, with my minimal knowledge of the topic :)

[linneatherose]

Originally Posted by Lady Bluffton

I've always been fascinated by these intricate and extremely intertwined family trees -- gives a new dimension to why maybe the leading royals are "marrying out" (i.e. commoners like Mary Donaldson, Maxima, etc.). New blood is needed! Imagine what a series of genetic marker tests would be like for some of our fave royals!?!

I agree. Even if every young royal marries outside of the family lines, genetic flaws WILL show up repeatedly for a few generations at least. And I DON'T mean dyslexia.
Over the years there have been many studies done on the Amish and Quaker communities in the US, and the findings regarding genetic problems in intermarrying communities were SHOCKING! And some of these communities aren't as closely related as royals. Besides... for anyone non-royal, isn't marrying a cousin pretty taboo? Even "gross?" Why shouldn't the same apply for royals?
I'm glad to see all of this new blood. Hooray for all of the commoners coming into the royal houses! I hope every prince and princess finds a "Mary"!

[Furienna]

Yes, the new blood is needed. It's no wonder that some diseases were so common among the royals back in the day. They could only marry their cousins!

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by Furienna

Yes, the new blood is needed. It's no wonder that some diseases were so common among the royals back in the day. They could only marry their cousins!

The European Royals need quite a few generations not to marry any more cousins to stop that dangerous family tradition.
I'll suggest during this century the Princes only marry contestants of the Miss World pageant and the Princeses mary only football/soccer players