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Old 11-21-2015, 08:37 PM
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Researching the Carringtons

I've re-titled my posting and added additional information, sorry for the double post.

I'm doing some research and have come to find myself looking at the Carrington Smiths of Rivenhall in Essex. They gave rise to The Smiths of Wooten Wawen in Warwick. They are descended from John Carrington, Esq. who later was known as John Smith, Esq. His coat of arms was four peacocks quartered by a red cross on a white field, rather unique. His Carrington ancestry used arms similar to these: l It appears this is the male line that gave rise to Lord Peter Carington by way of a Sir Francis Smith and later a Sir Thomas Smith of Cropwell Botler. It's the line Samuel and Abel Smith of Smith Bank & Co. The earliest known Carrington was a Hamo de Carentan who was a nephew, allegedly, of Baron Hamo de Massey who was a contemporary (or one or two generations from) William the Conqueror. Hamo de Massey is said to have family ties to Hugh d'Avranches, the first Earl of Chester.

I am wondering if anyone knows of any sources, online or real, tangible books, that might shed some light on the origins of the Carringtons who were from Carynton in Normandy, France.

Some sources point to Hamo de Carentan as being a natural son of Hugh "Lupus" d'Avranches, but this doesn't really make sense as Hugh and his son and heir Richard, died in The Tragedy of Whiteship. One other hypothesis is that Hamo de Carentan was descended from the first Marquesses of Carentan in Normandy.

What I know for certain is that the Carringtons are of the same Norman stock of men as William the Conqueror and probably descend from either Rollo, Rollo's father, or Rollo's grand father on their fatherline.

Thank you and I look forward to reading your responses.

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Old 11-21-2015, 09:41 PM
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Are you certain that the Carringtons' ancestors went over to England with William the Conquerer or shortly afterwards?

First of all, have you consulted the 'bible' of British peerages and their history, 'Burke's Peerage and Baronetage'? (Lord Peter Carrington is a Baron and therefore a Peer.)

If these men were part of Norman aristocracy it might be worthwhile tracking down Judith Green's 'The Aristocracy of Norman England'. It was published in 1997 by Cambridge University Press and I believe, although it's not cheap, that it's available on Amazon.

There is also a thesis online for which I'll give the link. The thesis itself is too general to be of much use to you in your quest, but underneath 'Contents' the author has produced a list of the sources used and some of these might be online and handy.

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Old 12-13-2015, 06:32 PM
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As best I can tell, these early Carringtons came over during the Norman Conquest and later took part in the Norman invasion of Wales. Hugh d'Avranches led the army that allied with Gryffud ap Rhys, an early Prince of Wales.

I haven't found Burke's to be of any significant use other than describing the arms some of these early familes bore.

I'll take a look at the thesis.

Thanks for the link.
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