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Old 08-10-2010, 12:30 AM
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Queen Maxima of The Netherlands

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As much as I know CP Maxima of the Netherlands is an Argentine with Italian origin.

According to my knowledge a lot of Americans (North, South and Central) are mixed races.

So I am Interested in knowing where are Crown Princess Maxima"s ancestors from other than Italy ?
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:34 PM
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Maxima's maiden name is Zorreguieta, which suggests a Basque origin. That part of her family (patrilineal descent) is probably from the Basque country, which is located in northern Spain and southern France. It's her mother's father's side of the family (i.e., Maxima's maternal grandfather) that is Italian; Cerruti is their family name.

Regarding race: While it is true that there is a great deal of racial intermingling throughout the Americas, it does not mean that you can assume that someone has a multi-racial background just because he or she hails from the American continents. For example, there is very little racial diversity in Argentina; almost everyone is white. Even in American societies that are characterized by racial diversity (such as the United States and much of Latin America), it is easy to find people who are all black, all white, or all native/indigenous, in addition to people who are multi-racial.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:56 AM
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A couple of websites with the anscestors of Princess Máxima:

Ancestry of Maxima Zorreguieta

Ancestors of Mxima Zorreguieta Cerruti

Ancestors of Maxima Zorreguieta Cerruti

The paternal family is from the Basque region indeed. I believe the family originally lived in the town Tolosa: Tolosa, Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The cerutti family seems to be from varese, in the Ligure disctrict in Italy: Varese Ligure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One of her anscestors is King Afonso III of Portugal.
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Relationship between Máxima and WA:
Le futur roi Guillaume-Alexandre Ier des Pays Bas et la future reine Maxima: lien | généalogies angevines et royales
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:49 PM
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Maxima's maiden name is Zorreguieta....
Thanks for the quote! here in amrica they asume if you are from southamerican you are dark, when i did my papaers for theUS and I got my citiceship state i am latin skin dark, and i maade a big complain, i asked what colour you see my skin, and my eyes, they answer white and blue eyes, so you make the corrections in my papers, i born in argentina but my parents are danoish end of story! stop to put labels to the people!
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:12 PM
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...I am Interested in knowing where are Crown Princess Maxima"s ancestors from other than Italy ?
The origins of maxima's family are not italian but Basque. it is in fact quite common for argentinians to be descendants of european immigrants, most of the population (i read some time ago as high as 80%) comes from european origin. amongst these, both spanish and italian origins account for the most.

as i was writing this first paragraph, i checked wikipedia on its article in spanish of "ethnic composition of argentina", which states exactly my facts:

it opens by saying:

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The current ethnic composition of the population of Argentina is the direct result of the descendants of the great wave of immigration, mostly Europeans mainly Italian and Spanish second, which occurred between 1870 and 1950
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According to the results of a study conducted in 2010 by the Argentine geneticist Daniel Corach, the genetic map of Argentina would be composed by 79.9% from different European ethnic groups, 15.8% of different ethnicities Amerindian, and 4.3% of ethnicity africanas.2 3
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composi...a_de_Argentina


so maxima is of a traditional argentinian origin in that her family comes from spain originally, although several generations have lived in argentina and have no personal relationship to their ancestor's countries.
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A couple of websites with the anscestors of Princess Máxima:


One of her anscestors is King Afonso III of Portugal.
It is strange that we have never heard of before.
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I believe Queen Maxima is also descended from the Inca emperors, is she not?
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Wasn't that claim by the mother of Marie Chantal of Greece? I think that Máxima is mainly of Italian-Basque descent.
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I believe Queen Maxima is also descended from the Inca emperors, is she not?

It is hard to believe.
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I'm not sure whether it was a throwaway joke, a self-deprecating aside, or if it was ever said at all. Whatever the case, it was trotted out at regular intervals by lazy journalists to be used against her as evidence of gasp! unseemly social ambition. That is until the journos got over the fact that all three of her daughters - the boringly well-educated, well-mannered, well-behaved and very rich Miller sisters - had married (on the suface at least) extremely well, after which there was not much left to be said.
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Wasn't that claim by the mother of Marie Chantal of Greece? I think that Máxima is mainly of Italian-Basque descent.
I've never heard that at all, but I know Reitwiesner proved Maxima's descent from a Peruvian conquistador, complete with a note that Pedro Alvarez de Holguin had this ancestor of Maxima's (a daughter) with an Amerindian woman. Also, on her Wikipedia article this assertion is given, her father and many other ancestry tracings providing support.

The descent is apparently from Tupac Huallpa, puppet Emperor in 1533 after the Spanish conquistadors overthrew Atahualpa.

Reitwiesner also proved her descent twice over from Afonso III of Portugal, I believe by two of Afonso's illegitimate children. One of them from a Jewish mistress of Afonso's, if I'm correct.
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I believe Queen Maxima is also descended from the Inca emperors, is she not?
inca emperors? i am not sure where you got this info from. as Marengo says, you may be getting confused with marie chantal miller.

besides, the incas were never very active in argentina, but rather in the northern countries of south america.
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inca emperors? i am not sure where you got this info from. as Marengo says, you may be getting confused with marie chantal miller.

besides, the incas were never very active in argentina, but rather in the northern countries of south america.
Here is the link where you can find the descent line from the Emperor Tupac Huallpa to Queen Maxima:

http://www.angelfire.com/ego/et_deo/incas.wps.htm

Just scroll down and find the line 17A-2 to see the descent connection.
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It's long occurred to me that Maxima's lineage has a bit more snob appeal than most spouses in her generation of royals, i.e. Mary, Mette-Marit, Daniel, Letizia, or Kate.

It's true her heritage is varied in this respect, and one paternal great-grandmother was evidently a farm laborer in Italy, but most branches of her family tree have been genteelly established for at least several generations, and have been government officials, landowners, doctors, and bankers.

Regarding Marie-Chantal's mother, she's often been referred to as "the last of the Inca princesses" because of her grace and style, but I've never read up on her to any great extent and have seen no indication that she is responsible for the fact that she's referred to this way.
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