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Old 07-10-2006, 07:55 PM
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So what connections does the House of Grimaldi have to other Royal Houses?
We know Caroline is connected to the Hanover's, but who else are they related too?
I saw a genealogy chart a few years back that listed are the Royal Houses they were connected too, but for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it (I think it was online).
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This is with fairly incomplete data, as I haven't gotten very far on Monaco yet, but still... I think it is interesting.

Albert of Monaco (1848-1922) married Mary Douglas-Hamilton, who was the daughter of Marie Amalie of Baden (daughter of Karl Ludwig of Baden and Stephanie de Beauharnais (of Leuchtenberg). From there and backwards, you have a connection to pretty much everyone... I guess

Andrea Casiraghi is related in at least three ways to Frederik of Denmark, as far as I can figure out, with my incomplete data - with (Karl Friederich of Baden & Caroline of Hesse-Darmstadt) (Karl Ludwig of Baden & Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt) and (Claude de Beauharnais and Renee Hardouineau).
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Monaco-Baden-Douglas-Hamilton relationships also touched on in the second part of this post in the Queen Victoria's Descendants thread.
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So what connections does the House of Grimaldi have to other Royal Houses?
We know Caroline is connected to the Hanover's, but who else are they related too?
I saw a genealogy chart a few years back that listed are the Royal Houses they were connected too, but for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it (I think it was online).
Prince Albert and Prince William are 6th cousins.

Prince Albert and Queen Margrethe II of Denmark are 6th cousins as well.

Prince Willem Alexander and Prince Albert are 7th cousins.


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We know Caroline is connected to the Hanover's...
Caroline and Ernst August are 7th cousins.
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This is with fairly incomplete data, as I haven't gotten very far on Monaco yet, but still... I think it is interesting.

Albert of Monaco (1848-1922) married Mary Douglas-Hamilton, who was the daughter of Marie Amalie of Baden (daughter of Karl Ludwig of Baden and Stephanie de Beauharnais (of Leuchtenberg). From there and backwards, you have a connection to pretty much everyone... I guess

Andrea Casiraghi is related in at least three ways to Frederik of Denmark, as far as I can figure out, with my incomplete data - with (Karl Friederich of Baden & Caroline of Hesse-Darmstadt) (Karl Ludwig of Baden & Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt) and (Claude de Beauharnais and Renee Hardouineau).
A very small mistake here, not a big deal, really: Stéphanie de Beauharnais was not a Leuchtenberg, as the title duke of Leuchtenberg was given to Eugène de Beauharnais and was transmitted to his descendants. As for Stéphanie, her father was Eugène's father cousin (and when Eugène was created duke of L. by the king of Bavaria, she was already married in the Baden family).

The Grimaldis are not as closely related to the other royal houses as those houses are to one another, because they are, in truth, no more than French aristocrats who became rulers by an accident of History (the survival of Monaco as an independant state), and I say that with no disrespect. Up to the 17th century, they were serving Spain, so they tended to marry Italian and Spanich noblewomen. After they began serving France, they married French noblewomen, and it must be noted that they are French since the early 18th century, when the Goyon-Matignon and then the Polignac took over Monaco and the Grimaldi name.

You can find another link to German princely families through Antoinette de Mérode, prince Albert 1st's mother here:

Pedigree for Comtesse Antoinette de Merode

You can also note that, since the 17th century, only one Monaco princess has descendants in other royal houses (if you don't count princess Florestine and the Urach family): Teresa-Maria Grimaldi, an ancestor of the houses of Austria-Este, Bourbon-Parma, Bavaria, Luxembourg, etc...

Teresa Maria Grimaldi

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Andrea Casiraghi is related in at least three ways to Frederik of Denmark, as far as I can figure out, with my incomplete data - with (Karl Friederich of Baden & Caroline of Hesse-Darmstadt) (Karl Ludwig of Baden & Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt) and (Claude de Beauharnais and Renee Hardouineau).
Andrea Casiraghi and Crown Prince Frederik are 13th cousins via their shared Mérode lineage, they are 9th cousins through their Beauharnais connection, and they are 7th cousins as descendants of Karl Ludwig Zähringen, Markgraf von Baden (1755-1801) and Amalie Friederike, Landgräfin von Hessen-Darmstadt (1754-1832).

According to the relationship calculator I used on Daniel de Rauglaudre’s database, Andrea and Frederik have over 5,662 relationship ties.
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The Grimaldis are not as closely related to the other royal houses as those houses are to one another, because they are, in truth, no more than French aristocrats who became rulers by an accident of History (the survival of Monaco as an independant state), and I say that with no disrespect. Up to the 17th century, they were serving Spain, so they tended to marry Italian and Spanich noblewomen. After they began serving France, they married French noblewomen, and it must be noted that they are French since the early 18th century, when the Goyon-Matignon and then the Polignac took over Monaco and the Grimaldi name.
Well... to the best of my knowledge the Grimaldis are Italians, from Genoa to be precise. You can visit their palace in Genoa, which is currently undergoing restoration.

One branch came to Spain and proved their nobility before the Military Orders of Santiago (1539, 1654 and 1724) and Alcántara (1623 and 1629) Don José de Grimaldo (sic), Knight of the Toison d'Or, was created Marquess of Grimaldo on the 4th of March 1715. Don Jerónimo Grimaldi was create Duke of Grimaldi on the 8th of April 1777.

The coat of arms of the Spanish Grimaldi family is identical to the Italian and Monegasque ones. What changes is the external decoration according to their position and hierarchy.

There are very strong links amongst the members of those different branches of the same family.

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Albert I was the son of Antoinette de Mérode-Westerloo, who hails from the old noble house of Mérode. Their pedigrees are prominent ones in Belgium. Through that family, he is related to some of the margraves of Brandenburg and the royal family of Prussia.

The mother of Honore V was Louise d'Aumont. Her family includes (Worldroots.com) the famous Hortense Mancini, one-time love of Louis XIV. The mother of Honore IV was Mary Brignole-Sale, daughter of the Doge of Genoa, and a member of a prominent Genoese family. Honore III's mother was the daughter of Mary of Lorraine, and thus related to most modern royal families, including the British (thru Mary I of Scots).

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The Grimaldi-Family have lesbian ancestors.

Ginevra Gattilusio, granddaughter of the Lord of Lesbos Francesco II. Gattilusio (+1404), married Lodovico Fregoso, Doge of Genua.
There granddaughter Costanza Fregoso married Marcantonio Landi, and there great-granddaughter Maria Landi married Hercule I. Grimaldi, Lord of Monaco, (+1604).

Over the lesbian Lords the Grimaldi-Family has connections to the Habsburgs, Marquis de Sade and Brooke Shields.

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