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Old 12-30-2015, 07:05 AM
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Link to blue eye gene common ancestor: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0130170343.htm
I am fully aware of all of this. First of all, 10.000 years isn't even close to 14 generations, and it's still around the European region. But we don't have to argue forever about this.
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:56 AM
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First of all, 10.000 years isn't even close to 14 generations, and it's still around the European region.
You are right, maybe to add a little perspective for people who don't interest themselves in genealogy and stuff: in my family tree, 14 generations bring me back to about the mid to late 16th century (and in my case, several of them living in the same area where i was born, give or take ca. 50 km)

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Old 12-30-2015, 09:32 AM
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You are right, maybe to add a little perspective for people who don't interest themselves in genealogy and stuff: in my family tree, 14 generations bring me back to about the mid to late 16th century (and in my case, several of them living in the same area where i was born, give or take ca. 50 km)

Exactly :) How far back have you been able to trace your family? Have you found ancestors outside of the Netherlands, if so, where and when?
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I find this conversation and the information on genetics fascinating to read.

Of course, being adopted, my family tree begins with me and if someone shakes it and nuts fall out, its all my doing. If I had the money to spare though, I'd love to have my DNA tested just because I can.
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:26 AM
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I am fully aware of all of this. First of all, 10.000 years isn't even close to 14 generations, and it's still around the European region. But we don't have to argue forever about this.


http://www.geni.com/discussions/1042...00007278581048 This can explain the concept better than I can
Not arguing - just information that may be helpful to you to understand - you must have missed this link and thought I would bring it to your attention :)
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:29 AM
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I find this conversation and the information on genetics fascinating to read.

Of course, being adopted, my family tree begins with me and if someone shakes it and nuts fall out, its all my doing. If I had the money to spare though, I'd love to have my DNA tested just because I can.
Ancestry.com offers this service. Its not expensive either. You might research the accuracies of the results 1st though.
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Ancestry.com offers this service. Its not expensive either. You might research the accuracies of the results 1st though.
I pretty much live in the perpetual state of not having a down payment on a free lunch these days. There'd be no way to research the accuracy of the results as I really have absolutely nothing to go by. I just sounds like something interesting to do and know.
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I pretty much live in the perpetual state of not having a down payment on a free lunch these days. There'd be no way to research the accuracy of the results as I really have absolutely nothing to go by. I just sounds like something interesting to do and know.
I know a lot of genetics and these companies, and I just need to tell you that you need to learn how to interpret the results you get. AncestryDNA and 23andme (the biggest companies) give you basically the same results, but they label it under different populations, so it looks different. For example, if you're from the Balkans, AncestryDNA says you're a mix of South Europeans and East Europeans (which is true), while 23andme simply gives you a reference group which is called the Balkans. That means that the Balkans group is constructed by both E Euro and S Euro. I'm in a hurry and this sounds very messy, but my point is, that you can't just accept the results you get as absolute truth, you need to some calculations in order to pin point your ancestry.
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I know a lot of genetics and these companies, and I just need to tell you that you need to learn how to interpret the results you get. AncestryDNA and 23andme (the biggest companies) give you basically the same results, but they label it under different populations, so it looks different. For example, if you're from the Balkans, AncestryDNA says you're a mix of South Europeans and East Europeans (which is true), while 23andme simply gives you a reference group which is called the Balkans. That means that the Balkans group is constructed by both E Euro and S Euro. I'm in a hurry and this sounds very messy, but my point is, that you can't just accept the results you get as absolute truth, you need to some calculations in order to pin point your ancestry.
Thank you so much for your explanation. Its all so very interesting especially when you get into royal families that have lineages going back centuries and centuries.
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I think your wording is not correct. You are not related to Queen Elizabeth II. You share a common ancestor. That is not the same.

The children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of Queen Elizabeth II are related to her but share a common ancestor with you. I hope this has made the difference clear.
That's the same thing. They are related to one another, just extremely, extremely, extremely distantly.
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Maybe the best test to find out if you are related to someone or just have a common ancestor would be the test of asking "family" for a loan of a dollar. If they know you and like you and give you the dollar, you're related. If they wonder who the heck you are and back off scowling, you have a common ancestor somewhere.


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So very well said and right now, money always talks among family and very loudly......
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