Family ties through Queen Victoria

[MAfan]

You're right in your considerations;
Prince Philipp of Hessen-Kassel became Landgrave of Hessen in 1940, at the death of his father Friedrich Karl. He married in 1925 Princess Mafalda of Savoy, with whom he had 4 children.
In 1968 he became the head of ass the House of Hesse, on the death of Grand Duke Ludwig, a son of Grand Duke Ernst-Ludwig (brother of Empress Alexandra of Russia, Grand Duchess Elisabeth of Russia and the Marchioness of Milford Heaven) and Grand Duchess Eleonore.
Philipp died in 1980, and he was succeded in all his titles by his firstborn son Mauritz, who has been adopted in the 60s by Grand Duke Ludwig.
Mauritz is also the claimants to the throne of Finland, claims inherited by his younger brother Heinrich, who had inherited them by their uncle Wolfgang, twin brother of Philipp.

[jonnydep]

Originally Posted by MAfan

Mauritz is also the claimants to the throne of Finland, claims inherited by his younger brother Heinrich, who had inherited them by their uncle Wolfgang, twin brother of Philipp.

yes......the landgrave friedrich karl (father of philipp) was elected king of finland sometime in oct 1918, but he withdrew acceptance the following month !!(the british and french would not accept a brother in law of the kaiser as the king of finland) so i can not see as to why any of his decendants should be considered as cliamants to the throne of finland !!. true prince wolfgang was envisoned to be the crown prince of finland, but nothing more !!.

another unlikely scenario is......would the princes von hessen be considered to be claimants to the throne of rumania today !!. for in july 1941, the germans wished to depose king michael (yet another descendant of queen victoria) and place instead his cousin prince friedrich of hohenzollern sigmaringen as king. but the italians perferred and regarded prince philipp, landgrave of hesse as king...............

[MAfan]

But this last thing was only an idea of the Germans...nothing happened...so...
Moreover there are strict family relationships between King Michael of Romania and Landgrave Moritz of Hessen, since they are second cousins, it would not be a nice thing to claim to hsi cousin's (ex) throne...

[jonnydep]

well mafan.......it is just as absurd for the princes von hessen to be regarded to have a claim to the throne of finland than that of rumania !!.

why.....being elected a king is not the same as being a king......the landgrave of hesse was never inaugurated as the king of finland !!

it would be like the descendants of prince alfred (son of queen victoria), being regarded as claimants to the throne of greece, because it so happened that he was once elected king of greece before that of prince william of denmark !!. some years later prince williams brother, prince waldemar of denmark was elected (or at least was offered) the throne of bulgaria.....does this mean that his descendants are regarded as claimants to that throne ? well no.....

thus imo the princes von hessen should not be regarded as claimants to the throne of finland !! .......

[Warren]

Let's not get too far off topic. The term "claimant" does not necessarily mean the person is claiming or has ever claimed anything.

[jonnydep]

sorry warren !!
well you know how it is.....one thing leads to another.....

[jonnydep]

i had forgotten to mention, that the mother in law of queen victoria eugenie "ena" of spain (granddaughter of queen victoria) was born a habsburg.....
queen maria christina of spain was born into the teschen branch of the habsburg family. her mother had married twice and by her first husband (an archduke of austria este) she had a daughter maria theresa, who went on to be queen of bavaria.
btw this queen of bavaria, upon the death of queen victoria in 1901 was proclaimed queen mary IV / III of great britain, as she was the rep and heir gen of king charles I of england !!!

[fearghas]

And as QV had a sister and a brother, how many of their descendants have married QV descendants.
One important one.
Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany (grandson of QV) married Princess Augusta Victoria of Schleswig Holstein Augustenburg (granddaughter of QVs sister, Princess Feodara of Leingen.
Another
Prince Ernst of Hohenlohe Langenburg (grandson of Princess Feodara of Leinginen) married Prinxess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Grandaughter of QV)

[jonnydep]

Originally Posted by fearghas

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Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany (grandson of QV) married Princess Augusta Victoria of Schleswig Holstein Augustenburg

btw.... the uncle of empress augusta, prince christian of schleswig holstein sonderburg augustenburg had married princess helena, the 3rd daughter of queen victoria.....