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Old 06-20-2007, 04:16 PM
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I am sorry not to be able to help you on your questions about the living GGchildren of QV.
But I sure want to applaud you for your fantastic work.
A family reunion would sure get crowdy
However what always strikes me is the fact that nearly all RF can claim some desendance from either Queen Victoria of Britain or from King Christian IX of Denmark (nearly all but the Netherlands).
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:44 PM
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Carl Johan is 91 years old, not 95. He's not the most famous member of the royal family, but I think we will know when he dies. But actually, he's not even a prince anymore since he got married to a commoner in like the 1940s. But he's our king's uncle.
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if marrying a commoner means loss of title
what should have happened to the King ??????
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:51 AM
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I am sorry not to be able to help you on your questions about the living GGchildren of QV.
But I sure want to applaud you for your fantastic work.
A family reunion would sure get crowdy
However what always strikes me is the fact that nearly all RF can claim some desendance from either Queen Victoria of Britain or from King Christian IX of Denmark (nearly all but the Netherlands).
The entire Benelux royals, and the Liechtensteins and Grimaldi's don't descend from Victoria, so let's call it a tie
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:07 PM
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if marrying a commoner means loss of title
what should have happened to the King ??????
Edward VIII of United Kingdom had to abdicate. Younger kings, like Carl XVI Gustaf and Harald V, belong to a younger much more liberal generation. No one loses a title because of their marriage today. Well, no one in Europe, anyway.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:43 AM
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Family ties through Queen Victoria

Looking at lineage It looks like most of the European royal houses are related through Queen Victoria. If I read it right is there no blood relations through Queen Victoria between the Dutch royal family and the rest of the royal houses? Are any other european royals not in that lineage also?
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Queen Victoria is blood related to the Dutch royal family. None of the Dutch royals are DESCENDED from her, but they have close family ties. For example, Henry, husband of the late Queen Wilhemina, was the half-brother of the wife of Tsar Nicholas II's uncle. Nicholas was the husband of Victoria's granddaughter Alexandra.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:46 PM
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I believe the closed Queen Victoria was related to her Dutch relatives was through King George II. Victoria descended from George´s son Frederick-Lewis, Prince of Wales while the Dutch RF descends fro George II´s eldest daughter Anne, Princess Royal, who married Prince Willem IV of Orange.
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That is true. However, the Dutch royals thru Duke Henry also descend from George I's daughter Sophia Dorothea of Hanover, who wed Frederick William I of Prussia. Henry of Mecklenberg-Schwerin, consort to Queen Wilhemina, was the son of Duke Frederick Francis II, the son of Princess Alexandrine of Prussia, and thus a descendant of Sophia Dorothea.

Ironically, Queen Adelaide was the sister of Princess Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont, who wed Leopold, the son of Queen Victoria.
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Ironically, Queen Adelaide was the sister of Princess Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont, who wed Leopold, the son of Queen Victoria.
Don't you mean Queen Emma?
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Don't you mean Queen Emma?
I believe so.
Rumours have it that the Prince of Orange was very much in the market for a daughter of Victoria as his wife. However Vicky, later Empress Frederic, declined his offer, as did two of her sisters Alice and I believe Helena. So he looked elsewhere. Otherwise the House of Orange would be included in the list of Victorias descendants.
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Don't you mean Queen Emma?
Thanks. Yes, I did. Actually, Queen Emma's first name *was* Adelaide, but she went by "Emma."
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Wow I don't know that the late Queen Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland had some other descentants in other reigning European royal houses.I see why she earned the nickname grandmother of europe.
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Wow I don't know that the late Queen Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland had some other descentants in other reigning European royal houses.I see why she earned the nickname grandmother of europe.

King Chrisitan IX of Denmark was the grandfather of Europe since he supplied the other half of the pairs.
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King Chrisitan IX of Denmark was the grandfather of Europe since he supplied the other half of the pairs.
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Almost!

Current ruling houses
Denmark: Victoria - Arthur - Margaret - Ingrid - Margrethe II

Norway: Victoria - Edward VII - Maud - Olav V - Harald V

Spain: Victoria - Beatrice - Ena - Juan - Juan Carlos

Sweden: Victoria - Arthur - Margaret - Gustaf Adolf - Carl XVI Gustaf

United Kingdom: Victoria - Edward VII - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II

Some former ruling houses
Greece: Victoria - Victoria - Sophie - Paul I - Constantine II

Rumania: Victoria - Alfred - Marie - Carol II - Michael

Yugoslavia: Victoria - Alfred - Marie - Maria - Peter II - Alexander
Very nice! :-) You left out Germany though:

Germany: Victoria - Victoria - Wilhelm II - Prince Wilhelm - Louis Ferdinand - Georg Freiderich
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Some former ruling houses
Greece:
Victoria - Victoria - Sophie - Paul I - Constantine II
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Victoria - Victoria - Wilhelm II - Victoria Luise - Frederika - Constantine II
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And of course, Russia. Queen Victoria and Christian IX were on either end of that royal family's lineage.

Queen Victoria - Alice - Alix - OTMAA
Christian IX - MF - Nicholas II - OTMAA

And then the double tie to Prussia:

Queen Victoria - Alice - Irene - Waldemar (and 2 other sons)
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hi guys,.......if you would like a good read on the queens descendants....try
"grandmama of europe :the crowned descendants of queen victoria" by theo aronson (1973). this excellant book deals with the following descendants of the queen ....

victoria, empress of germany
sophie, queen of greece
edward VII, king of great britain
maud, queen of norway
alexandra, empress of russia
louise, queen of sweden
marie, queen of romania
marie, queen of yugoslavia
ingrid, queen of denmark
victoria eugenie (ena), queen of spain

this book is well worth a read guys.....the best ive read on the subject

enjoy...........
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But was Louise Mountbatten really a descendant of Queen Victoria? They were probably related somehow, I'm sure they were, but not that closely. However, Gustaf VI Adolf's first wife, Margareth of Connaught, was one of Victoria's grandchildren.
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Yes, Queen Victoria was her maternal great-grandmother (which, incidentally, made her step-children her cousins as well - they were also Queen Victoria's great-grandchildren through their mother).
Louise Mountbatten --> Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine --> Princess Alice of the United Kingdom --> Queen Victoria

Princess Margaret of Connaught was Queen Victoria's granddaughter.
Princess Margaret --> Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught --> Queen Victoria


Incidentally, for those who are interested in a comprehensive list of Queen Victoria King Christian's descendants, there is a magnificent newsletter dealing with the very topic - September 2007 Newsletter: Queen Victoria and King Christian's descendants. Personally I found it very informative.
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