Family ties through Queen Victoria

[Marengo]

Great website morhange. I hope you did not have to do all the research yourself to. If youwant more information about the descendants it might be wise to borrow Marlene Eilers' ' Queen Victoria's Descendants' from you local library (+ the follow-up)

[Vanesa]

It's an amazing work, Morhange. Have my congratulations...Sure, you'd worked hard, my dear! It's a very well done site, with a lot of ressources about Queen Victoria's descendants. A real "must" for all people interested in Queen Victoria's family.


Vanesa.

[morhange]

I'm very interested in all of the descendants of Queen Victoria. As of today, all of her children and grandchildren are dead, and all but two of her great-grandchildren are deceased as well. The two that aren't are Count Carl Johan Bernadotte (born Prince Carl Johan of Sweden, Duke of Dalarna) and Lady Katherine Brandram (born Princess Aikaterini of Greece and Denmark)

Like with the survivors of the Titanic (of which there are just two remaining) the last two living great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria will soon no longer be with us. I was just curious to know if anyone knows how these two are doing, health-wise? I know Count Carl Johan is still pretty active, since he recently celebrated his 95th birthday, but I don't hear very much about Lady Katherine. Is she close to her Greek nephew and his family? I think she lives in London, and so do Konstantine and Anne-Marie. Do they visit her often?

Thanks :)

[fee]

I am sorry not to be able to help you on your questions about the living GGchildren of QV.
But I sure want to applaud you for your fantastic work.
A family reunion would sure get crowdy
However what always strikes me is the fact that nearly all RF can claim some desendance from either Queen Victoria of Britain or from King Christian IX of Denmark (nearly all but the Netherlands).

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by fee

I am sorry not to be able to help you on your questions about the living GGchildren of QV.
But I sure want to applaud you for your fantastic work.
A family reunion would sure get crowdy
However what always strikes me is the fact that nearly all RF can claim some desendance from either Queen Victoria of Britain or from King Christian IX of Denmark (nearly all but the Netherlands).

The entire Benelux royals, and the Liechtensteins and Grimaldi's don't descend from Victoria, so let's call it a tie

[Furienna]

Carl Johan is 91 years old, not 95. He's not the most famous member of the royal family, but I think we will know when he dies. But actually, he's not even a prince anymore since he got married to a commoner in like the 1940s. But he's our king's uncle.

[Julier von Badenth]

if marrying a commoner means loss of title
what should have happened to the King ??????

[Furienna]

Originally Posted by Julier von Badenth

if marrying a commoner means loss of title
what should have happened to the King ??????

Edward VIII of United Kingdom had to abdicate. Younger kings, like Carl XVI Gustaf and Harald V, belong to a younger much more liberal generation. No one loses a title because of their marriage today. Well, no one in Europe, anyway.

[contessa]

Looking at lineage It looks like most of the European royal houses are related through Queen Victoria. If I read it right is there no blood relations through Queen Victoria between the Dutch royal family and the rest of the royal houses? Are any other european royals not in that lineage also?

[PrincessKoreen]

Queen Victoria is blood related to the Dutch royal family. None of the Dutch royals are DESCENDED from her, but they have close family ties. For example, Henry, husband of the late Queen Wilhemina, was the half-brother of the wife of Tsar Nicholas II's uncle. Nicholas was the husband of Victoria's granddaughter Alexandra.

[Marengo]

I believe the closed Queen Victoria was related to her Dutch relatives was through King George II. Victoria descended from George´s son Frederick-Lewis, Prince of Wales while the Dutch RF descends fro George II´s eldest daughter Anne, Princess Royal, who married Prince Willem IV of Orange.

[PrincessKoreen]

That is true. However, the Dutch royals thru Duke Henry also descend from George I's daughter Sophia Dorothea of Hanover, who wed Frederick William I of Prussia. Henry of Mecklenberg-Schwerin, consort to Queen Wilhemina, was the son of Duke Frederick Francis II, the son of Princess Alexandrine of Prussia, and thus a descendant of Sophia Dorothea.

Ironically, Queen Adelaide was the sister of Princess Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont, who wed Leopold, the son of Queen Victoria.

[wymanda]

Originally Posted by PrincessKoreen

Ironically, Queen Adelaide was the sister of Princess Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont, who wed Leopold, the son of Queen Victoria.

Don't you mean Queen Emma?

[fee]

Originally Posted by wymanda

Don't you mean Queen Emma?

I believe so.
Rumours have it that the Prince of Orange was very much in the market for a daughter of Victoria as his wife. However Vicky, later Empress Frederic, declined his offer, as did two of her sisters Alice and I believe Helena. So he looked elsewhere. Otherwise the House of Orange would be included in the list of Victorias descendants.

[PrincessKoreen]

Originally Posted by wymanda

Don't you mean Queen Emma?

Thanks. Yes, I did. Actually, Queen Emma's first name *was* Adelaide, but she went by "Emma."

[lumutqueen]

It amazes me how many descendants this woman had.
She was the true Grandmother of Europe.

[jonnydep]

yes..... as of 1997. it was said that queen victoria had at least 450 living descendants scattered around the world !!

[Next Star]

Wow I don't know that the late Queen Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland had some other descentants in other reigning European royal houses.I see why she earned the nickname grandmother of europe.

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Next Star

Wow I don't know that the late Queen Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland had some other descentants in other reigning European royal houses.I see why she earned the nickname grandmother of europe.

King Chrisitan IX of Denmark was the grandfather of Europe since he supplied the other half of the pairs.

[Furienna]

But was Louise Mountbatten really a descendant of Queen Victoria? They were probably related somehow, I'm sure they were, but not that closely. However, Gustaf VI Adolf's first wife, Margareth of Connaught, was one of Victoria's grandchildren.