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Old 03-28-2014, 05:27 PM
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She says she is a Russian princess. First the article says she is descended from an aristocratic family that lost its castle in the revolution. Then it calls her a descendant of Nicolas II - definitely not.

Russian Princess Olga Roh 'can't wait to visit Scottish castle' | Mail Online
Nowhere on the internet that I can find is there any mention of Olga Roh's maiden name, her father's name, or the name of the "family palace in Moscow" [not St Petersburg?].
The closest is this magazine cover where her full name is given as Olga Chakhovskaya-Roh.
Assuming for the moment that Chakhovskaya is her maiden name, a check of the Wiki list of Russian Princely Families doesn't show anything remotely close.
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:29 PM
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The premise of this show is mean. It's to make fools of these women. Hopefully some of them will figure out the hoax before the end.

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Ryan Seacrest has a new show where women compete to marry a bachelor who is pretending to be Prince Harry.

'I Wanna Marry 'Harry' reality show convinces 12 American women they're competing for Prince | Mail Online
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:39 PM
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The premise of the show is mean, I agree. It does set out to make fools of the women, and to trick them.

At the same time though, they have to be incredibly naive if they buy into the idea that a British Prince (or really, any European Royal from a reigning house) would engage in a Bachelor-style reality TV show looking for a bride.

To me it seems more likely that the women in the show are well aware that the "Prince Harry" of the show isn't actually Harry and are simply actresses.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:38 PM
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I've been following a bunch of Facebook impostors, but this woman is one of the most absurd.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Russi...58747527531450

I know enough about the Romanovs to know THIS is bogus. And she keeps changing parts of her story.
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You certainly cannot by titles but you could if you were nobles between the 13th to the 14th Centuries especially if you were high up on the Royal Court Nobility List and you actually did enough things as well as doing deals with the Royal Families whom were in power then. It was a time when scandles were more pronounced because of the corruption in the Roman Catholic Church and the British Crown itself, the bishops etc buying and selling titles because alot of Nobles could not buy their way into the Royal Courts so they bought titles from other Nobles selling them.

Hummmm am I an imposter? I think not, what I have said can be proven beyond doubt because I researched it starting at a local Genealogical Historical Society here in Kings County, Nova Scotia, Canada. I was very thankful that they had such an extensive data base which lead me around the internet in search of the truth, what I found took 32years to compile. I have even had an DNA Scrape done which I had done with DNAFamily Tree and the result of it was me finding out that My ancestors were cousins of The Royal Family, through the many years we did alot of good for the Royal Family and got them out of nearly impossible jams they otherwise would not have survived, it would be nice to have recognition that we Pilgrim Brewsters are seriously remembered again in Britain. I hope someday I can come back to Britain invited by Queen Elizabeth 2 herself but that day perhaps may be long in comming, I have extensive files that show the real story of my family ancestry and I have about 2 months ago, completed it.

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lol - well you can't actually buy titles. All you do is buy a very expensive name change and legally you can call yourself anything you like as long as you don't use a name for fraudulent purposes but obviously that's what he was doing.
BeatrixFan, in the 10th to 13th Centuries you could actually buy titles but you had to do the duty of the Kings or Queens you had the titles given to you for.
You had to pay what ever a fee for the title entailed. Some Lands were also given in the titles and you had to pay said fees to the Nobles and King or Queen that ruled over you. Normally military service was required to keep the titles and normally a small town or village in the British Countryside was part of the titles that an noble had bought and was accepted as lord over.

My ancestor had to pay a fee of 1,500fs to King Richard I and King John Lackland for the certain title he gained. His father had such a title too, I am not saying what title since you can find out on the internet; but one such title was an Earldom and the other was a Lordship so figure out how much money one had to pay. Other fees amounted to raising a standing group of footsoldiers and mounted knights to keep the village or township holdings and that certainly was not easy.
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:27 PM
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That was back then. The titles actually denoted where the person lived or how close he was to the King and usually meant he was a person of note, position or importance.

Buying a title today is easy. Do an internet search for "buy a title" and there you have it. As Beatirx Fan stated, the titles of the peerage cannot be bought and from what I've seen, its a waste of money. Sure you can call yourself "Lord" or "Lady" or whatever and flash a piece of paper to impress your friends but in actuality, the title is an empty one. Why anyone would do this is beyond me and makes me think some folks have more money than brains. Its like BF said, a name. Look at Queen Latifah or Prince or Burger King. The names try and make you think of something that's the top of the heap but in the end, its just a name.

There was a reality type program years back on TV where 12 girls competed in Britain and the winner won a "title" and a certain cash award. It had nothing to do with the British nobility, peerage or aristocracy but just dangling something "impressive".
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:44 PM
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I'm afraid I have little time for imposters or people claiming this and that - I know who the Queen is and doubt very much indeed whether the British public could be bothered with dealing with other claimants.
Remember when that chap in Australia was found to be the last living decedent of someone or other who would have been our monarch had the rules not changed vis-a-vis Electress Sophia - never heard about him again. Then there was a chap claiming to be Princess Margaret's illegitimate son - never heard from him again either.
My great grandmother apparently sewed dresses for Queen Victoria (more likely sewing fishing nets down at the docks) but I doubt I will start clambering the gates of Buckingham Palace demanding her sewing kit back!

With regard to buying titles, I am happy to say that people who seek a title and go as far as to buy one are very common indeed and would not be the sort of people one would think should hold such things.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:59 PM
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The Australian claimant was the senior most descendant of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, the brother between Edward IV and Richard III. His claim is actually a valid one in that it is verified he is who he is, and 500 years ago his ancestors were very much still fighting the Tudors for the throne. To me, his claim is interesting in much the same sense that Franz of Bavaria's claim is interesting, but not actually one that's ever going to change the monarchy.
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:08 PM
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I would never attempt to denigrate or belittle anyone that has done the research and has a sense of pride in who their ancestors were, where they lived and what they accomplished (or didn't) in their lifetime. It gives one a sense of continuity from our past as much as a birth of a child, grandchild or great grandchild in one's lifetime gives us the sense of continuity that will stretch on into the future long after we are gone. Being adopted, my family tree starts with me as I have never put any effort into finding my ancestral tree but I can claim to be a great grandmother though.

It is using one's real or imagined blood ties to try and make oneself to be something different from who they already are in the here and now that I think is delusional.
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Anyone know of the Earl of Harwood? Not Harewood, but Harwood?
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I didn't know where else to post this. An American man has claimed a piece of east African land that is not claimed by any other country and named himself king.

Man claims kingdom so daughter can be princess

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5581948.html
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:18 PM
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I didn't know where else to post this. An American man has claimed a piece of east African land that is not claimed by any other country and named himself king.

Man claims kingdom so daughter can be princess

Dad Claims Kingdom So 7-Year-Old Can Be Real Princess
Talk about spoiling your child. Don't know if I am envious or disappointed that a father would go to such lengths to give his daughter something.
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One thing for sure, the guy has a bit of moxie to be able to dream this up.
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This takes " indulging your children " to a whole new level. And US citizens can't hold Royal titles, can they?
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This takes " indulging your children " to a whole new level. And US citizens can't hold Royal titles, can they?
As a naturalized US citizen I don't like the idea of citizens holding titles but Princess Madeleine's daughter evidently does(I'm assuming it will not be used in the US).

But your point is a good one.

This man is evidently trying to get official recognition from the surrounding countries. Crazy story.
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This is ridiculous! Smacks of colonialism and the worst type of self-aggrandizement.
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It must be quite a wasteland if no other country has bothered to claim it, even for the sake of extending a border. Presumably no-one lives there.
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