Exposing Imposters

[Next Star]

Originally Posted by Quin

Slightly off point, but I read in a magazine the likes of People that said Paris Latsis had some Hispanic blood? Can anyone confirm this? The late Prince Ranier of Monaco's paternal grandmother or great grandmother was Mexican.

Rainier's father Prince Pierre was have spainish.

[SusanE]

Originally Posted by Quin

Slightly off point, but I read in a magazine the likes of People that said Paris Latsis had some Hispanic blood? Can anyone confirm this? The late Prince Ranier of Monaco's paternal grandmother or great grandmother was Mexican.

Prince Rainier's father Count Pierre de Polignac, was the son of Count Maxence de Polignac and his Mexican-born Spanish wife, Susana de la Torre y Mier.

See http://www.genealogics.org/getperson...09244&tree=LEO

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

LATSIS family, are ranked no 51 in the Forbes 2006 list of the richests people, with a fortune of about 9.1 billions of US$.
They are 3 Latsis heirs, one of the three is Paris' mother. Paris will be sharing the forune with his 7 other cousins. So if you share 9 billions, even if you divide them by 8, it leaves a good portion to live....

Hilton is ranking no 746 (....) with a total fortune of only 1 billion...... and Paris Hilton is by far not the only heiress...

So by this side, Paris Latsis, was, by far much much much richer than her.... and a very good part for her......

Thanks for the statistics. It also follows logic that the Latsis fortune would be greater, without knowing much about either business, because the shipping industry is by far more profitable than the hotel business. Even though Paris and Nicky Hilton's father, Rick Hilton, has made very good money, I gather, from his real estate company, I remember reading an article about Athina Onassis de Miranda not so long ago, in which Stelio Papadimitriou said that recent years have been extremely profitable for the Greek shipping giants; this was Papadimitriou's reason for saying that Thierry Roussel's decision to sell some of Athina's assets in the business was a particularly bad decision.

Nevertheless, as for Paris Hilton, there is the enormous fortune she has amassed from selling her 'name' or 'self-brand,' if you will. She had an interview with Barbara Walters one year and said, "All my money is my own. I stopped living off my parents' money at 18," basically implying that all her financial support comes from the money she has made from her various publicity projects, whatever you can call them or think about them.

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by Quin

Slightly off point, but I read in a magazine the likes of People that said Paris Latsis had some Hispanic blood? Can anyone confirm this? .

Paris Latsis has 100% greek blood, at least for the 2-3 previous generations. And by the way he is not really called Latsis, he bears his father name, Kasidokostas. His mother Marianna Latsis, daughter of late John Latsis, the creator of this enormous fortune, has been married with Grigoris Kasidokostas, and they had the only son Paris. Marianna divorced and she has two other younger children, from her actual relation.
Paris is called Kasidokostas, but ouside of Greece, international media prefer to call him Latsis, as it is easier and it rings a direct bell to this famous name.

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by SusanE

Prince Rainier's father Count Pierre de Polignac, was the son of Count Maxence de Polignac and his Mexican-born Spanish wife, Susana de la Torre y Mier.

See http://www.genealogics.org/getperson...09244&tree=LEO

I've never knew that detail! Thanks! That makes the House Grimaldi quite intercontinental in their recent ancestry since they cover Europe, North America/Latin America and (North) Africa.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

Paris Latsis has 100% greek blood, at least for the 2-3 previous generations. And by the way he is not really called Latsis, he bears his father name, Kasidokostas. His mother Marianna Latsis, daughter of late John Latsis, the creator of this enormous fortune, has been married with Grigoris Kasidokostas, and they had the only son Paris. Marianna divorced and she has two other younger children, from her actual relation.
Paris is called Kasidokostas, but ouside of Greece, international media prefer to call him Latsis, as it is easier and it rings a direct bell to this famous name.

That's interesting! It's like the media calling Athina all those years before she changed her name "Athina Onassis" or "Athina Onassis Roussel," or even "Athina Roussel Onassis," in some articles. They would label her with her famous, maternal name instead of her paternal legal name. But now of course she has taken "Onassis de Miranda" for her legal name anyway.
She broke from custom in a sense, because Doda being Brazilian Catholic, his marriage, I would have thought, might follow the traditional Spanish/Portuguese model, with the wife not taking the husband's name.
But maybe because they had two ceremonies (Catholic and Greek Orthodox) and because Athina is the latter, she follows the Greek Orthodox rather than Catholic/Iberian tradition. Maybe on the Catholic certificate she is "Athina Onassis" whereas on the Greek Orthodox one, she is "Athina Onassis de Miranda"??

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

That's interesting! It's like the media calling Athina all those years before she changed her name "Athina Onassis" or "Athina Onassis Roussel," or even "Athina Roussel Onassis," in some articles. They would label her with her famous, maternal name instead of her paternal legal name. But now of course she has taken "Onassis de Miranda" for her legal name anyway.
She broke from custom in a sense, because Doda being Brazilian Catholic, his marriage, I would have thought, might follow the traditional Spanish/Portuguese model, with the wife not taking the husband's name.
But maybe because they had two ceremonies (Catholic and Greek Orthodox) and because Athina is the latter, she follows the Greek Orthodox rather than Catholic/Iberian tradition. Maybe on the Catholic certificate she is "Athina Onassis" whereas on the Greek Orthodox one, she is "Athina Onassis de Miranda"??

Does she have the greek citizenship??? If yes, according to the greek law, when a girl marries she does not change her born name, so she did not take the "De Miranda" she kept the "Roussel", But if she dropped "Roussel" for "Onassis", she stays Onassis.
I do not know how is the law in Brasil.
Does somebody know what other nationalities she had? She has been grown up in Switzerland, she may have also Swiss Nationality. Ans also a french one from her father.
Complicated

[Beatrice]

Originally Posted by Quin

Slightly off point, but I read in a magazine the likes of People that said Paris Latsis had some Hispanic blood? Can anyone confirm this? The late Prince Ranier of Monaco's paternal grandmother or great grandmother was Mexican.

Paris's both parents are Greeks: Marianna Latsis and Grigoris Kasidokostas.

[LauraMCS]

Originally Posted by Quin

Slightly off point, but I read in a magazine the likes of People that said Paris Latsis had some Hispanic blood? Can anyone confirm this? The late Prince Ranier of Monaco's paternal grandmother or great grandmother was Mexican.

Stavros Niarchos, another Greek shipping heir and former boyfriend of Paris Hilton, has Mexican ancestry.

[Quin]

Originally Posted by LauraMCS

Stavros Niarchos, another Greek shipping heir and former boyfriend of Paris Hilton, has Mexican ancestry.

Yes. I confused Latsis with Niarchos.

[BeatrixFan]

With all the talk of the von Anhalts, I thought people may be interested to see these two shots of the 'Prince and Princess'. Zsa Zsa has never used her Princessly rank even though her hubby does.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1465/zsazsa11kn4.jpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5176/zsazsa1bq5.jpg

Pics scanned from an old copy of Hello!

Does anyone know what the order is Zsa Zsa is wearing?

[Sister Morphine]

Maybe a Prussian order? I Googled, but got nothing.

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

With all the talk of the von Anhalts, I thought people may be interested to see these two shots of the 'Prince and Princess'. Zsa Zsa has never used her Princessly rank even though her hubby does.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1465/zsazsa11kn4.jpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5176/zsazsa1bq5.jpg

Pics scanned from an old copy of Hello!

Does anyone know what the order is Zsa Zsa is wearing?

Probably of the order of the "Ritterschaft Herzogtum Anhalt e.V." which he invented himself and sold it for 6.000 EUR to people who wanted to have such an order....

[BeatrixFan]

Ah I see. 6,000 Euro eh? Not bad.

[Von Schlesian]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

With all the talk of the von Anhalts, I thought people may be interested to see these two shots of the 'Prince and Princess'. Zsa Zsa has never used her Princessly rank even though her hubby does.

Ofcourse Zsa Zsa has never used 'Princessly' rank, because she has none, nor does her husband have princely rank as you're very well aware BeatrixFan

The man paid Princess Marie Auguste von Anhalt to adopt him (keeping in mind she was 82 when she did so), however German law relating to the styles and titles of the former ruling royal and noble families only recognises the adoption of blood relatives within the same family. In addition, the Ducal House of Anhalt does not recognise Hans Lichtenburg as a member of their family. Thus Zsa Zsa is no more entitled to a Princely style than my left shoe!

[Warren]

It's been a long time between drinks Von Schlesian. Welcome back.

[Von Schlesian]

Thanks Warren, it's great to be back.

[Duchess]

even though zsa zsa and her husband aren't authentic royalty - we won't hear them saying otherwise. amazing what some people will do!