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Old 02-13-2017, 04:49 PM
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There are so many children of this line it is difficult to include them all. Perhaps the best way to look is to the House Bourbon. Most members of this house are of the line. And then look at the Coat of Arms of the house you are in. Charlemagne's Coat of Arms has variations of the trinity on it, in clovers, elephants, heads, crowns and so on. Also I happen to know that those out of Sir Thomas Chapman, 10 generation from Robert 1 of France are all of this line through the Chapman side. The Rowlett family is also of this line. Also a large portion of the Mont Sartre are also of this lineage. Perhaps the great warriors' greatest accomplishment is that he left generations to remember him.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:55 AM
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I seriously doubt any arms ascribed to charlemagne is contemporary with him
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Hello, I am new to the forum. I became very interested in the Royal lines after researching my family. I found out that my mother and father are actually 15th cousins through the Wallaces of Scotland. After looking at their lines, I found that they are different levels of cousin through many different pathways because of their royal ancestors. My line of the royals ended up poor commoners in the US after fleeing religious persecution and siding with the colonies in the American Revolution. Our line goes directly back to Charlemagne. After finding that information, i googled and found information that almost everyone can claim to be a direct descendant of Charlemagne.
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Hello, I am new to the forum. I became very interested in the Royal lines after researching my family. I found out that my mother and father are actually 15th cousins through the Wallaces of Scotland. After looking at their lines, I found that they are different levels of cousin through many different pathways because of their royal ancestors. My line of the royals ended up poor commoners in the US after fleeing religious persecution and siding with the colonies in the American Revolution. Our line goes directly back to Charlemagne. After finding that information, i googled and found information that almost everyone can claim to be a direct descendant of Charlemagne.
Hello Anna,
I am a new member of the forum and I have recently had DNA tests done to align with my family genealogy. On the results from NatGeo it listed a series of "famous" people that I have DNA matches to. A few are Queen Victoria and Marie Antoinette on my maternal line and King Richard III on both maternal and paternal lines. I have documented family tree data to early 1600s on some ancestors in England and some to mid 1500s. Is there a process to try to find the links from my records to these historical figures ? are there pedigrees from these people to recent times that can be studied ?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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Old 04-18-2019, 06:11 PM
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there are many monarchs who can claim descendance from Charlemagne through many ways. For example, Queen Elizabeth Windsor of Great Britain claims descendance 3 ways from Charlemagne. 2 from her father, and one from her mother, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. The lineage from her mother is:
1. Charlemagne, Holy Roman Emperor
2. Pepin, King of Italy
3.Bernard of Italy
4. Herbert I of Vermandois
5. Herbert II of Vermandois
6. Robert of Vermandois
7. Adele of Meaux
8. Ermengarde of Anjou
9. Judith of Brittany
10. Robert I of Normandy
11. William I of England
12. Matilda, Empress of Germany
13. Henry II of England
14.Sir William Longespee
15. William Longespee
16. Ella Longespee
17. Sir Hugh I de Audley
18. Alice de Audley
19. Sir William de Greystoke
20. Sir Ralph de Greystoke
21. Joan de Greystoke
22. Sir William Bowes
23. Sir Ralph Bowes
24. Richard Bowes
25. Sir George Bowes
26. Thomas Bowes
27. Thomas Bowes
28. Sir William Bowes
29. Sir George Bowes
30. Mary Eleanor Bowes
31. Thomas Lyon-Bowes
32. Thomas George Lyon-Bowes
33. Claude Bowes-Lyon
34. Claude George Bowes-Lyon
35. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, Queen Consort
36. Queen Elizabeth II of England

This is the least royal line. The most royal line is beneath:

1. Charlemagne, Holy Roman Emperor
2. Pepin, King of Italy
3.Bernard of Italy
4. Herbert I of Vermandois
5. Herbert II of Vermandois
6. Robert of Vermandois
7. Adele of Meaux
8. Ermengarde of Anjou
9. Judith of Brittany
10. Robert I of Normandy
11. William I of England
12. Matilda, Empress of Germany
13. Henry II of England
14. John of England
15. Henry III of England
16. Edward I of England
17. Edward II of England
18. Edward III of England
20. Lionel of Antwerp
21. Phillipa Plantagenet
22. Roger Mortimer
23. Anne Mortimer
24. Richard Plantagenet
25. Edward IV of England
26. Elizabeth of York (Henry VII's wife)
27. Margaret Tudor
28. James V of Scotland
29. Mary Stuart, Queen of Scotland
30. James VI and I of Scotland and England
31. Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia
32. Sophia of Hanover
33. George I of Britain
34. George II of Britain
35. Frederick, Prince of Wales
36. George III of Britain
37. Prince Edward Augustus
38. Queen Victoria of Britain
39. Edward VIII of Britain
40. George V of Britain
41. George VI of Britain
42. Elizabeth II of Britain

the final one is a lineage from her grandmother, Mary of Teck.

1. Charlemagne, Holy Roman Emperor
2. Pepin, King of Italy
3.Bernard of Italy
4. Herbert I of Vermandois
5. Herbert II of Vermandois
6. Robert of Vermandois
7. Adele of Meaux
8. Ermengarde of Anjou
9. Judith of Brittany
10. Robert I of Normandy
11. William I of England
12. Matilda, Empress of Germany
13. Henry II of England
14. Matilda of Saxony
15. Wilhelm of Braunschweig- Luneberg
16. Otto of Braunschweig-Luneberg
17. Adelheid of Braunschweig-Luneberg
18. Otto of the Hesse
19. Ludwig of the Hesse
20. Hermann of the Hesse
21. Heinrich of the Hesse
22. Elizabeth of the Hesse
23. Johann of Nassau-Dillenburg
24. William of Nassau-Dillenburg
25. Ernest Casimir of Nassau Dietz
26. William Frederick of Nassau-Dietz
27. Hendrik Casimir II of Nassau-Dietz
28. Johann Willem Friso of Nassau-Dietz
29. William IV of Nassau-orange
30. Caroline of Nassau-Orange
31. Henrietta of Nassau-Weilburg
32. Alexander of Wurttemberg
33. Franz of Teck
34. Mary of Teck
35. George VI of Britain
36. Elizabeth II of Britain

(Note: Elizabeth II has 3 other lines that would take to long to name so let me tell you them. The first line is from Mary of Teck's mother, a princess of Britain. The other line is the agnatic ancestor of Ernest Augustus, Duke of Brunswick-Luneburg, father of George I of Britain. His agnatic ancestor was William of Winchester or William longsword, also an ancestor of Johann Willem Friso. William of Winchester was the grandson of Henry II of England. The third line is from Henry VII of England, the husband of Elizabeth of York, and father of Margaret Tudor. I am extremely sure she has others but this is what I found)

TELL ME IF YOU FIND MORE!!! AND ALSO IS ANNE OF BOHEMIA AND HUNGARY A DESCENDANT OF CHARLEMAGNE?
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Old 04-18-2019, 06:32 PM
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I always like to throw this link into any discussion about having Charlemagne for an ancestor. I most likely do and so does everyone if they're of European descent. This really is an interesting link for me. Perhaps to find a real anomaly, we'd have to find a royal that's of European descent and *not* related to Charlemagne.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...dam-rutherford
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