Can You Claim The English Throne?

[1880 or so]

I happened across this site yesterday while looking into something else, and being very interested in royal lines started to browse around. One of the threads that caught my eye was this. Firstly, I was startled that someone should have been seeking an heir to the House of Wessex when there is a known person who claims representation of it, the Infanta Alicia of Spain, born Princess Alicia of Parma. I have a genealogy showing this which needs a little cleaning up, but I will do that and post it should anyone betray interest.

Secondly, as the Infanta would doubtless acknowledge, this is nothing more than an interesting genealogical curiosity and gives no claim after so many centuries. She is arguably senior of line, but you would struggle to find any royal person in Europe not descending from this House. Probably the entire population of England does, though most of them couldn't trace. It especially gives no claim because the throne was not hereditary but elective in those days (though it is true that if the last King had a son he was virtually a shoo-in).

Thirdly because of the repeated statements about people being descended from Edgar Atheling. As far as is known Edgar Atheling had no children, was never married, and there is no descent from him. Any claim to representation must come from his sister St Margaret, Queen of Scots.

Apart from that it was an interesting thread. :-)

[Vecchiolarry]

Hi,

Well, this is fun!!

My maternal history takes me into the Irish and Scotish clans - the Donald clan in Scotland, so I'm not about to claim the Scotish throne as I believe the Donalds clashed with the Bruces & Stewarts.

My paternal history takes me to Normandy in France and descent form Rollo the Viking, who was an ancestor of William the Conqueror.
I am from a 6th son of Rollo, so can't claim to be Duke of Normandy - - "BUMMER!!".....

Also, I am from 2 French princesses - Gisele in the 10th century and Adele in the 14th century.
But because of Salic Law, I cannot claim the French throne - - "Double BUMMER!!"......
These women were descended from Charlemagne, so perhaps I should try for Holy Roman Emperor???
But wait, the Holy Roman Empire was disbanded in 1806, so that's out - - Triple BUMMER!!"

Oh Hell!! - - I give up...
No throne for me....

Larry

[Menarue]

What a shame Larry, you could have had some fun, those darn Salic laws and the way they keep getting rid of Kings and Queens in some countries is really annoying.
Perhaps you could find an old oil rig and set up a little kingdom there and give people passports for fantastic fees. Hold on I am giving myself an idea, don´t you dare do that, I thought of it first. Bummer (as you said) I think this has already been done.

[Princess B]

I am connected to the indian/pakistani kingdoms (abolished way back in 1800's)

I doubt I have any claim to the english throne unless ofcourse someone from my family during the time britain ruled india married a brit.

[Russophile]

We're a mutt. But then again, you need the mutts to serve the kings and queens . . . .

[principessa]

I can definitely not claim the English Throne. I am a commoner by 1.000 % and a Catholic.

[Australian]

Of course I can claim the English Throne.......I'm just too lazy.

[crisscross1]

Originally Posted by Australian

Of course I can claim the English Throne.......I'm just too lazy.

That's hilarious Australian. I think as time goes on the Royals are becoming more and more of a joke so I don't think anyone would own up to having claim to any Royal Throne. (JMPO)

[Hereditary Thane]

Under the Act of Settlement made at the time of Queen Anne Stuart's death only the descendants of Sophie, duches in Brunswick, being protestant and having married with the consent of the British sovereign are elligible for inclusion in the line of succession. I guess this would mean your ancestors as well. This century I have only read one order in council refusing a request for marriage, made by Queen Elizabetg II 5 or 6 years ago. No one could find out why the permission was refused. Perhaps a member here can elucidate.

[LauraMCS]

I am descended from Alfred the Great but my line of descent branches out before it reaches Edgar. Can I still make my claim? Oops. I must run. I'm late for my tiara fitting.

[Lady Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Australian

Of course I can claim the British throne, but I don't think I will, I'm much too busy at the moment

What a relief that will be for Her Majesty!

[Skydragon]

I think it was reported that 25% of the legitimate claimants are from the US!

[milla Ca]

Experts find ´´alternative´´heirs

BA retired engineer from Tyneside and a financial director from Berkshire have been named as ´´alternative´´ heirs to the English throne.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Experts find 'alternative' heirs

[Skydragon]

There must be something wrong with that article milla Ca, I don't see any of TRF's claimants on the list!

[milla Ca]

Originally Posted by Skydragon

There must be something wrong with that article milla Ca, I don't see any of TRF's claimants on the list!

I know Skydragon, i also read it twice to find my own name...but nothing...

[crisiñaki]

I can trace my ancestry back to the Glücksburgs (more exactly to Elisabeth Friederike Sophie Amelie Charlotte of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck ) so I guess I could claim the English Throne in some weird way

[kirstengrafin]

Originally Posted by crisiñaki

I can trace my ancestry back to the Glücksburgs (more exactly to Elisabeth Friederike Sophie Amelie Charlotte of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck ) so I guess I could claim the English Throne in some weird way

If your ancestor is Elisabeth von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck (1780-1862), you're a direct descendant of Edgar Aetheling because Elizabeth is a 22nd generation descendant of Edgar.

[crisiñaki]

Originally Posted by kirstengrafin

If your ancestor is Elisabeth von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck (1780-1862), you're a direct descendant of Edgar Aetheling because Elizabeth is a 22nd generation descendant of Edgar.

Thank you so much for the Info!
And people say you never learn anything on forums

[kirstengrafin]

Originally Posted by crisiñaki

Thank you so much for the Info!
And people say you never learn anything on forums

If you want to see how your line descends from Edgar, I'll be happy to PM the info to you.

By the way, some of your ancestors have ties to every royal house in Europe.

[crisiñaki]

Originally Posted by kirstengrafin

If you want to see how your line descends from Edgar, I'll be happy to PM the info to you.

By the way, some of your ancestors have ties to every royal house in Europe.

I know, you should see some of the things I got from my grandmother
And now I know why my first name is Dagmar