British Royal Family Genealogy

[Claire]

I've so much wanted to ask quesions of a genealogical base. Bear said that we could place this forum, but nobody did, or maybe they did and I can't find it. (sorry). So here we can place links to our favourite genealogy sites, ask questions and hopefully get a few answered.

[Claire]

Here's a few Links to get us started:

The Peerage: http://www.thepeerage.com

My Genealogy page: http://www.angelfire.com/celeb2/ceg_.../genealogy.htm

Here's my questions:

How is Lord Louis of Hesse related to the British Royal Family, besides him been Prince Edward's godfather. I know that the Duke of Edinburgh's sisiter, Cecille and her family was killed on route to his wedding. But where does he fit in.

How is Lady Alexander Etherington, one of Lady Louise's god mother's related to Prince Edward. In the press release for Louise's christening they said that she is a distant relative, how?

Claire

[royal_sophietje]

Good questions Claire!!! Unfortunately I don't know the people and checking the British family genealogy made by Henri van Oene, didn't gave an answer too.....

I'm really interested in genealogy and I hope to find a complete database one day...

[iowabelle]

I'm interested in French-Canadian genealogy (particularly Quebec) and when I was at Ancestry.com I read Camilla shares ancestors with... Celine Dion and Madonna.

A fuller explanation of Camilla's genealogy can be found at www.wargs.com/royal/camilla.html

I wonder if, because of the scarcity of early settlers in Quebec, if Camilla and I might be related. Maybe that explains my "Material Girl" tendencies! :)

[tiaraprin]

Camilla is related to Celine Dion and Madonna??

I do know her great grandmother, Alice Keppel, was mistress to Edward VII and may be related to Charles through her grandmother Sonia Cubitt. Some believe Sonia to be the "natural" child of Alice and Edward VII. Sonia Cubitt never discussed the matter during her lifetime.

[iowabelle]

Apparently, Madonna and Celine share ancestors from Quebec with Camilla.

Camilla is also a descendant of James VI and I.

Who knew?

[Elspeth]

Well, quite a lot of the British upper classes are descended illegitimately from Charles II, which means they were descended from James I. Not sure that all that many are legitimate descendents of those monarchs, though!

[Elizabeth_Leona]

I am the Queen of Royal genealogy! I have been drawing up family trees by hand since I was 6. It is the one thing I never get bored of and am good at!

[Elizabeth_Leona]

Originally Posted by Claire

How is Lord Louis of Hesse related to the British Royal Family, besides him been Prince Edward's godfather. I know that the Duke of Edinburgh's sisiter, Cecille and her family was killed on route to his wedding. But where does he fit in.

How is Lady Alexander Etherington, one of Lady Louise's god mother's related to Prince Edward. In the press release for Louise's christening they said that she is a distant relative, how?

Louis was a brother of Georg Dontus and brother-in-law of Cecile, who died on the way to his wedding. Louis and his wife adopted Georg and Cecile's only surviving child Johanna.

Lady Alexandra Etherington is a daughter of the Duke of Fife and a great grand daughter of Princess Louise (Edward VII's second daughter) making her a 3rd couisn of Prince Edward.

[Elspeth]

Since you were six? Goodness, that sounds like a lifetime labour of love!

Are you still doing them by hand, or have you gone over to electronic family trees?

[Elizabeth_Leona]

Originally Posted by Elspeth

Since you were six? Goodness, that sounds like a lifetime labour of love!

Are you still doing them by hand, or have you gone over to electronic family trees?

all by hand :)

[chrissy57]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth_Leona

Louis was a brother of Georg Dontus and brother-in-law of Cecile, who died on the way to his wedding. Louis and his wife adopted Georg and Cecile's only surviving child Johanna.

Cecile was, of course, one of Prince Philip's sisters.

[Elizabeth_Leona]

Originally Posted by chrissy57

Cecile was, of course, one of Prince Philip's sisters.

yeppers and a great grand daughter of Queen Victoria and a second cousin of her own husband

[selrahc4]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth_Leona

yeppers and a great grand daughter of Queen Victoria and a second cousin of her own husband

First cousin once removed.

[Zonk]

whats the difference between second cousin and first cousin once removed?

[selrahc4]

Originally Posted by Zonk1189

whats the difference between second cousin and first cousin once removed?

The "removed" designation indicates that while there is a cousinship, it is not of the same generation; the number removed indicates the number of generations different. First cousins share a set of grandparents.

[Elizabeth_Leona]

true, it was Cecile's mother Alice who was a first cousin of Georg and Louis

[selrahc4]

And, what is somewhat wierd, since Cecile married a first cousin once removed, she was second cousin to her own children.

But that's not an unusual thing when you get into royal relationships.

[Elizabeth_Leona]

Originally Posted by selrahc4

And, what is somewhat wierd, since Cecile married a first cousin once removed, she was second cousin to her own children.

But that's not an unusual thing when you get into royal relationships.

ewwww! ha ha! sound like the hillbilly's from Jerry Springer

I never really looked at it from the child's point of view always how they marry their own cousins!

[Melania]

I know Prince Phillip was a Prince of Greece and Denmark, so what is his relationship to the Danish Queen and Prince Frederik? Are Charles and Frederik distant cousins? Thanks if you can help :) .