British Royal Family Genealogy

[chrissy57]

They are distant cousins but I can never work out cousins relationships so I will give you the descent from the common ancestors.


Christian IX of Denmark - Frederick VIII - Christian X - Frederick IX - Margrethe II - CP Frederick

Christian IX of Denmark - William (George I of the Hellenes) - Andrew - Philip - Charles

Christian IX of Denmark - Alexandra - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II - Charles


Queen Victoria - Arthur, Duke of Connaught - Margaret (Crown Princess of Sweden) - Ingrid - Margrethe II - CP Frederick

Queen Victoria - Alice - Victoria - Alice - Philip - Charles

Queen Victoria - Edward VII - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II - Charles


There may even be other descents but these are the main ones. As you can see Charles and Frederick are cousins through a number of different lines of descent from both Queen Victoria and King Christian IX of Denmark.

Everyone knows Victoria was referred to as the Grandmother of Europe when she died in 1901 but fewer people seem aware of the fact that Christian was the Grandfather of Europe when he died in 1906, with three of his children being Kings (one of coures inherited his title) or Queens Consort and one child a Dowager Empress by the time he died. By that measure he does better than Victoria - Frederick and William become kings and Alexandra and DAgmar Queens or Empresses while Victoria 'only' has Victoria as an Empress and Bertie as a king. Sure her grandchildren marry into these positions but only two of her children are ever in the position of monarch or consort compared to Christian having four. I know Alice married a Grand Duke and Alfred also became one but they are not 'monarch's.

[norwegianne]

Prince Andrew of Greece (Prince Phillip's father) was the grandson of Christian IX of Denmark. Prince Phillip is thus the great grandson of Christian IX. Prince Charles is the great great grandson of Christian IX.

Queen Margrethe is the great great granddaughter of Christian IX. Charles and Margrethe are third cousins (if I did the math correctly.)

Edit: And then there's the extra lines mentioned above. Which also makes Phillip and Margrethe third cousins.

[norwegianne]

http://kongehuset.dk/monarkiet/stamt...hp#Gluckborske

The family tree of the Glücksburg dynasty in Denmark, from Kongehuset.dk

Some of the names are the Danish version, but it gives the general overview.

[Melania]

Thank you! It is interesting to see that they are related in more than one way. I know over the years the royal family's relationships are going to get even wider. I think that might be a good thing so that things will not be so confusing or complicated. It is such a breath of fresh air to have new blood marry into these families, such as Diana and Mary of Denmark.

[Aussie Princess]

I think they might also be related by their ancestrey from the Russian,Romanian and German side, but I'm not sure.They would also be related by marriage through her sister, and his marriage to Queen Elizabeth. I think their great-grandparents were married, there was a few,I can't remember any of it anymore

[Leslie2006]

You're right Princess Aussie . Queen Margrethe II of Denmark and Prince Philip are related through the German side (the Danish Royal Family is and was actually German---so was QV's family).

King Christian IX, father of George I of Greece, thus great-grandather of Prince Philip, was the eighth of ten children born to Frederik, the first Duke of Schleswig-Holstein and HIS wife, Princess Louise of Hesse. I'm not positive, but I think he was elected to be King of Denmark, and so his family has ruled since then.

Frederik, 1st Duke Schleswig-Holstein----Christian IX----George I of Greece---Andrew---Philip

Frederik, 1st Duke Schleswig-Holstein----Christian IX----Frederik VIII----Christian X----Frederik IX---Margarethe II

So I THINK that Margrethe and Philip are either 3rd or 2nd cousins once removed or something on the Danish/German side. I don't think they're related through Russian or Romanian royalty, but I'm not positive.

Philip and Margarethe II are also related to the other Scandinavian royal houses. Margarethe's mother, Ingrid, was the daughter of King Gustav VI Adolf of Sweden and HIS wife Princess Margaret of Connaught, one of Queen Victoria's granddaughters through her son Arthur. Margaret (or Daisy)'s mother was Princess Louise Margrethe of Prussia.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Leslie2006

Philip and Margarethe II are also related to the other Scandinavian royal houses. Margarethe's mother, Ingrid, was the daughter of King Gustav VI Adolf of Sweden and HIS wife Princess Margaret of Connaught, one of Queen Victoria's granddaughters through her son Arthur. Margaret (or Daisy)'s mother was Princess Louise Margrethe of Prussia.

Here's another line of descent:

Queen Victoria----Arthur, Duke of Connaught----Margaret (Crown Princess of Sweden)----Ingrid (Queen Consort of Denmark)----Margrethe II

Queen Victoria----Alice (Grand Duchess of Hesse & bei Rhine)----Victoria (Battenberg)----Alice (Princess Andrew of Greece)----Philip

[chrissy57]

Does anyone know where I could get a link showing the geneological table from William the Conqueror to Henry VI?

I don't just want the list of kings - I know that - but the actual descent to Henry VI and I am being too lazy to look it up and I am at school and need it for a friend's lesson prep on the Wars of the Roses.

[BeatrixFan]

I did make one Chrissy - I think it's a through threads back called, "Germans?".

[BeatrixFan]

Germans?

From Alfred the Great to William V.

[Elspeth]

Any table that includes the complications of the Plantagenet succession is going to be convoluted. Good thing Sam did all that work on it!

[BeatrixFan]

I should explain Chrissy that the green shows where they were born, the blue shows their fathers nationality and the pink shows their mothers nationality.

[chrissy57]

Sam,
Thanks very much for that.

The Year 9 students at school will appreaciate all that work.

[Warren]

Originally posted by BeatrixFan, here.
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22 October 2005
This is my second investigation. On this one, I did things a little differently.

I decided to start at Alfred the Great and used the Jus Soli rule - wherever a person was born, that was their nationality.

For Example;

Edward VII

His Paternal Nationality is German
His Maternal Nationality is English*
His Jus Soli Nationality is English

*Based on Jus Soli not on nationality of mother and father

So, what we have is a tree based on Jus Soli that can be used in various ways. If you want to determine nationality by paternal line, then follow the blue nationalities, making changes as you go - do the opposite for maternal.

The Lines do not show 'The Son/Daughter of' but just seperate each Monarch.













As you can see, there have been several breaks in the 'English' Monarchs.

The First Break comes after Edward II - he was succeeded by the Danish King Canute resulting in Danish Monarchs.

This is again broken after HarthaCanute - he was succeeded by the English King, Edward the Confessor.

This is broken by the Hungarian Edgar II. After Edgar, we get William the Conqueror - the first French King of England.

The line goes back and forth between French and English Monarchs until Henry II when it seems to stablise. English Monarchs reign until James I, who is the first Scottish King of England.

From Charles I - William III, the English line is unbroken. William III is Dutch, but the line once again goes back to the English with the accession of Queen Anne.

Germans then come into play. George I and George II are German Kings of England interrupted by George III. He stablises the line resulting in English Monarchs up until today.

HOWEVER, that is only based on the use of Jus Soli which is the official way of determining nationality (lucky for the British Royal Family). The Jus Soli rule means that they can boast English nationality since George III - or can they? If based on Maternal Nationality, things are little different - and again, based on Paternal Nationality, things are different.

Paternally, Alfred the Great is again, a true English King. The Line continues to Canute - the Danish King. This means that Harold I and HarthaCanute are Danish, as is every other monarch until William I, a French King.
French Monarchs reign until Henry VII - a huge space in time.

Henry VII is the first true English King since Alfred the Great, after a period of French and Danish Monarchs. His Son, Henry VIII and Henry VIII's children, Edward VI, Mary I and Elizabeth I all enjoy being pure English Monarchs based on paternal nationality. The English monarchs continue until William III - Dutch of course. Queen Anne takes the line back to the English until George I when we get our German Monarchs.

George I is the first German monarch. And he is totally German as far as paternal lines go. It means that every monarch since George I has been German including Queen Elizabeth II.

Her son will be the first Greek King of England based on his father's paternal nationality.

The Maternal Line proves to be even more colourful!

From Alfred the Great to Edmund II all is well. English through and through. Canute interrupts the English Kings but based on maternal nationality, the English Kings continue through until Edgar II.

William the Conqueror comes along and begins the French line. His wife, Mathilda of Flanders, is French. This makes William II French, and Henry I, French Kings of England.

King Stephen is also French and the French line continues through until Edward II who is Spanish through his mother, Eleanor of Castille. By marrying Isabella of France, Edward secures the French line which carries on until Henry IV - who is English - the English Kings return.

Every King is English until Henry V. He marries Catherine of Valois. His son is Henry VI who is once again a French King of England.

The English Kings return under Edward IV but based on maternal nationality, Edward's son, Edward V is Luxembourgish. The first Luxembourgish King of England.

Richard III restores the English line which continues through to George I. Even the Dutch William III had an English mother and so maternally, was an English King of England.

George I isn't a German King, rather, he is a Dutch King. By marrying Sophia of Celle, he makes the line German. This continues until Edward VII who marries the Danish, Alexandra.

George V is Danish, but by marrying the German (through maternal line) Mary, he ensures that his sons, Edward VIII and George VI are German. Elizabeth II becomes an English Queen through her English mother, Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. This secures that Charles III will be and English King, and through his first wife, his son, William V will also be an English King.

TO SUM UP

By using the Jus Soli method, the current Queen is most definately English.
By using the Paternal method, the current Queen is most definately German.
By Using the Maternal method, the current Queen is most definately English.

[Warren]

It may be too late for your purposes Chrissy, but for future reference the British Monarchy official website has some great PDF down-loadable family trees.

As an example, here is the link to the Plantagenets.
The PDF clickable file is located in the bottom right-hand corner.

[chrissy57]

Thanks to the people who helped this overworked teacher with finding this reference.

The unit is on the Wars of the Roses and Richard III.

[kelly1972]

I find all of the so fasinating. I love royal geneology. It really shows that almost all of the royal families of Europe are related to each other in one way or another. It also showed the Queen Victoria was really the "grandmother of Europe" she linked everyone together.