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Old 04-25-2013, 04:54 PM
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Great job!
With so much detail involved, there will always be kinks and typos to iron out in the early days. It will get there.

Tweaking...

1. George IV - typo as George VI
2. No Edward VIII?
3. For consistency, 'Elizabeth' should be 'Elizabeth II' if space allows
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:07 PM
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Thanks Warren, I have changed it.
Can you see the changes?
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:27 PM
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SLV, in general I think you did a great job (especially for 1 in the morning). It looks so cool - well put together, aesthetically pleasing, etc.

My comment regarding order was specific to the order that you have QEII's descendants - doing that doesn't always work with older connections (such as with the children of George III or those of Charles I).

One thing - you highlighted Elizabeth of York when she appears in the main-line, and added her to the children of Edward IV, but she's not highlighted the second time. This really is nitpicking on my part - once again, this sheet is great and has even inspired me in how to format my own genealogy works.
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:18 PM
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Can you see the changes?
Yes indeed!
Your choice of the pastel colours in the Plantagenet area make this part of the chart look especially smart.
However, if I could make a suggestion, the two fields of darker ochre colouring make the print much less easier to read.
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English monarchs family tree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:55 PM
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Thanks for the link Spheno.

I'm never really sure how I feel about the Wikipedia trees. On the one hand they're really thorough and try to cover everything, but on the other hand they cut up the British royals by house, losing some of the interesting connections, and by covering so much the whole thing becomes a bit of a jumble. I particularly really dislike the Wessex tree.

SLV, have you thought about expanding your tree? There are some really interesting connections if you go to the pre-Edward III monarchs, or if you look at more of the Scottish monarchs (or do both). There's also the approach of Philip, who descends from several of the post George III monarchs through a couple different lines, and then the Charles II-to-Diana line. There's also (allegedly) a line that links William to Catherine Carey, the daughter of Mary Boleyn (and alleged daughter of Henry VIII), but I've never found the actual lineage there.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:14 AM
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Hi Ish,
I recently made the line of our Dutch Orange-family line.
And I'm currently working on how many European families are descendant of Johan Willem Friso of Nassau-Dietz. Apparently there are more that those descending from Victoria. So those lines are next, in order to compare.
Prince Philips' line sounds interesting.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:37 AM
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Ooh, that's really interesting. I look forward to checking it out!

Like I said earlier (or I think I said), I'm in love with the way you've done this tree, and just how concise and clear you've made it all. I think it's just really cool what you've done.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:06 AM
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...I'm currently working on how many European families are descendant of Johan Willem Friso of Nassau-Dietz.
The front endpapers of "Burke's Royal Families of the World, Volume I: Europe and Latin America" show the lines of descent from Jan Willem Friso of the following Houses:

Austria
Bavaria
Belgium
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Spain
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Thank you Warren. But it is so much more fun figuring it out by myself. I think that I have got most of them though. :-) And more.
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There's also (allegedly) a line that links William to Catherine Carey, the daughter of Mary Boleyn (and alleged daughter of Henry VIII), but I've never found the actual lineage there.
There is a line:

King Henry VIII 1491-1547
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Catherine Cary,Lady Knollys of Rotherfield 1524-1569
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Countess Lettice of Essex 1543-1634
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Countess Penelope of Warwick 1561-1607
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Essex,Lady Cheke of Pirgo died in 1659
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Countess Anna of Warwick 1620-1659
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Robert Rich,3rd Earl of Warwick 1611-1659
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Countess Essex of Nottingham and Winchilsea 1652-1684
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Marchioness Mary of Halifax 1677-1718
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Countess Dorothy of Cork and Burlington 1699-1758
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Duchess Charlotte of Devonshire 1731-1754
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Duchess Dorothy of Portland 1750-1794
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Lord Charles Cavendish-Bentinck 1788-1826
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Honorable Charles William Frederick Cavendish-Bentinck 1817-1865
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Countess Nina Cecilia of Strathmore and Kinghorne 1862-1938
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Queen Elizabeth of Great Britain,the Queen mother 1900-2002
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Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain 1926-
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Thanks! I've never looked through it closely and been able to find it (Catherine has a lot of descendants).
Of course, Henry VIII's involvement in it is just a theory, as he never claimed Catherine as his child, and Mary Boleyn was married to another man.
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UK Royal Family and Monaco Royal Family.

Does anyone know is there a connection between the two. I am sure there is as there is with most of the other European houses going back to the time of queen Victoria.
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Diana, Princess of Wales

Is there an online site that her family history can be checked out, more genealogy than anything else. I recently discovered that going back in time, her family came from an area not too far from where I live. I have also discovered looking into my own family tree, that she shared a family name with that of my late Grand Father (Roche) and that his family going back in time may have come from around the same area.
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Is there an online site that her family history can be checked out, more genealogy than anything else. I recently discovered that going back in time, her family came from an area not too far from where I live. I have also discovered looking into my own family tree, that she shared a family name with that of my late Grand Father (Roche) and that his family going back in time may have come from around the same area.
I wouldn't know of anywhere other than TRF to direct you to but I do know that Diana's ancestry has been discussed pretty in depth in the British Royal Family genealogy threads. Good luck and happy hunting.

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The closest blood relationship between all of Europes royal families if Johan Willem Friso of Orange Nassau. They all descend from him.

I believe Albert II descends from George II of GB through the Grand Dukes of Baden connection. There may also be some ancient Scottish bloodline connections since Albert II descends from the Dukes of Hamilton.
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I'm not sure about a connection between the British royals and Albert himself, but I do know that Caroline's third husband, Ernst August, is a male-line descendant of George III (through George's fifth son, Ernest Augustus I of Hanover), and through his paternal grandmother he's a descendant of Victoria (through Victoria's eldest daughter, Victoria, Princess Royal).
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I'm not sure about a connection between the British royals and Albert himself, but I do know that Caroline's third husband, Ernst August, is a male-line descendant of George III (through George's fifth son, Ernest Augustus I of Hanover), and through his paternal grandmother he's a descendant of Victoria (through Victoria's eldest daughter, Victoria, Princess Royal).
Princess caroline of monaco's husband is related to the British royal family both through king George III and king Christian IX through his daughter Thyra.
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The result, of more than 4 hours of reading Wiki-pages (), I put into an Excell-sheet.
So for those who , like me, were wondering.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...vN2wzNWc#gid=0
I updated the tree with princess Margaret's family, as well as with those of the Kent's and Gloucesters.
It's interesting to see that there is a generation difference between these branches and the main line.
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SLV, have you thought about expanding your tree? ...
There's also the approach of Philip, who descends from several of the post George III monarchs through a couple different lines, ....
Hi Ish,
I have been searching like crazy but I could not find any post George III connections with prince Philip.
I did find several with George II and George I, however. So, my guess is that you meant 'pre-George III' and not 'post'.

I even found a connection to Johan Willem Friso of Nassau-Dietz, which means that prince Philip a descendant of the same man as the Dutch Royal Family (together with many other Royal Families).
And to make things even more complicated:
The Dutch RF descends of Sophia of the Palatinate. Hmmmmm. I wonder if our King Willem Alexander asked Queen Elisabeth for permission to marry Máxima. Not that it matters, as she is catholic and therefore W-A is no longer in line of the British throne.

I put all the prince Philip lines in a sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...vN2wzNWc#gid=3

Have fun!
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PS. Here is the Dutch-tree:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...vN2wzNWc#gid=1
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