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Old 06-04-2015, 02:20 AM
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Can brides get married in a strapless or spaghetti strap gown? I know woman on here don't like those gowns but if a bride did like a strapless could she wear it?

I'm not sure of the definition of strapless but Crown Princess Victoria had bare shoulders at her wedding.


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Old 06-04-2015, 02:33 AM
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Besides matters of taste or tradition, a royal wedding is also often an Act of State, with the presence of Government, Parliament, "High Colleges of State", the judiciary, the armed forces, the Corps Diplomatique, etc. Not to mention heads of state, crowned heads and other distinghuised guests. It is common sense to dress conservatively, befitting the solemn event.

Besides that, such a wedding is the first event of a royal bride (when marrying into a royal family) to "set" herself. A Letizia entered the church, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Asturias left the church. A Máxima entered the church, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Orange left the church. A 'girlie" or a "sexy" look does not combine very well with the dignified, solemn, regal and stately appearance a new royal wants to make. A 'girlie' or a 'sexy' look also does not combine very well with the often historic jewels or an antique veil which is combined with the gown.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:15 AM
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I'm not sure of the definition of strapless but Crown Princess Victoria had bare shoulders at her wedding.
Strapless means nothing above the decolletage at all as in the case of Tessy Anthony.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...105307efc6.jpg

Victoria's gown didn't actually qualify as 'off the shoulder".

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L7JC05D4BC...lOverPress.jpg
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:46 AM
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In sweden crown are used as symbols at weddings, are there any other countries that use crowns at the alter?
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:44 AM
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Strapless means nothing above the decolletage at all as in the case of Tessy Anthony.



https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...105307efc6.jpg



Victoria's gown didn't actually qualify as 'off the shoulder".



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L7JC05D4BC...lOverPress.jpg

There you go. I obviously had no idea what I was talking about. I'm much better at the black skinny jeans and loose fitting t-shirts I always seems to end up in.


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The reason I ask is because I've seen pix of a lot of royals brides who have strap less under lace, and it's becoming quite repetitive.
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The reason I ask is because I've seen pix of a lot of royals brides who have strap less under lace, and it's becoming quite repetitive.
Well, the lace means it's not strapless, of course.

Prominent use of lace has been a recent trend with wedding dresses (which isn't to say it wasn't often used before, of course), much like how strapless wedding dresses started becoming a trend in the '90s. And strapless dresses seem to be slowly fading out of style.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I know I read many years ago that Queen Elizabeth II's wedding gown was officially ok'd by then head of C of E prior to it's making. A drawing was presented and signed. This illustration still in private papers of queen. Has anyone else read about this years ago?
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In what countries does the civil ceremony come before the religious ceremony? Are there any countries in which the religious ceremony comes before the civil ceremony?

When the imperial couple marry in Russia, two crowns were held above the couple's heads. Were the crowns the property of the church?
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When the imperial couple marry in Russia, two crowns were held above the couple's heads. Were the crowns the property of the church?
I believe the actual crowns held above their heads during the ceremony likely belonged to the church.

But beyond that, the bride would have on her head (not held above) but a crown and a tiara. The 'nuptial' jewels of the Russian royals were extensive.

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In wedding ceremonies performed in an Orthodox Church crowns are held above the bride and groom, usually by family members, before being placed on their heads. The crowns can be metal but can also be simple garlands made from flowers.

Customs vary but in the past the crowns belonged to the bridal couple who were even expected to wear them for several days after the wedding. Today many Orthodox churches will provide crowns if the bride and groom chose not to provide their own (in which case the crowns must be returned after the ceremony).

I suspect the Romanovs provided their own crowns. They certainly wouldn't want to use "common" crowns worn by others! The "Nuptial Crown" mentioned in the article posted above by Countessmeout was the crown used by generations of Romanov brides - held over them during the ceremony before being placed on their heads.
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Why do weddings in the British royal family use the alternative liturgy rather than the default liturgy for weddings in the Church of England?

https://www.churchofengland.org/pray...rship/marriage
https://www.churchofengland.org/pray...tion-matrimony

Is there confirmation that the alternative liturgy will be used for Prince Harry's wedding as well?
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:54 AM
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In what countries does the civil ceremony come before the religious ceremony? Are there any countries in which the religious ceremony comes before the civil ceremony?
I don't think there are any western countries where the religious wedding takes place before the civil. Not sure about islamic countries.

Among those requiring a civil wedding before a religious wedding can be held are the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany.
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In almost all countries on the Continent a legal marriage is required. Also in Spain and Italy, but there a religious officiant can be legally registered by the State and be allowed to officiate at weddings, if so, then such a religious marriage can be registered as civil union indeed.

In all cases it is the civil union which counts.
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