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Old 06-04-2015, 02:20 AM
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Can brides get married in a strapless or spaghetti strap gown? I know woman on here don't like those gowns but if a bride did like a strapless could she wear it?

I'm not sure of the definition of strapless but Crown Princess Victoria had bare shoulders at her wedding.


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Old 06-04-2015, 02:33 AM
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Besides matters of taste or tradition, a royal wedding is also often an Act of State, with the presence of Government, Parliament, "High Colleges of State", the judiciary, the armed forces, the Corps Diplomatique, etc. Not to mention heads of state, crowned heads and other distinghuised guests. It is common sense to dress conservatively, befitting the solemn event.

Besides that, such a wedding is the first event of a royal bride (when marrying into a royal family) to "set" herself. A Letizia entered the church, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Asturias left the church. A Máxima entered the church, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Orange left the church. A 'girlie" or a "sexy" look does not combine very well with the dignified, solemn, regal and stately appearance a new royal wants to make. A 'girlie' or a 'sexy' look also does not combine very well with the often historic jewels or an antique veil which is combined with the gown.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:15 AM
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I'm not sure of the definition of strapless but Crown Princess Victoria had bare shoulders at her wedding.
Strapless means nothing above the decolletage at all as in the case of Tessy Anthony.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...105307efc6.jpg

Victoria's gown didn't actually qualify as 'off the shoulder".

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L7JC05D4BC...lOverPress.jpg
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:46 AM
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In sweden crown are used as symbols at weddings, are there any other countries that use crowns at the alter?
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:44 AM
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Strapless means nothing above the decolletage at all as in the case of Tessy Anthony.



https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...105307efc6.jpg



Victoria's gown didn't actually qualify as 'off the shoulder".



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L7JC05D4BC...lOverPress.jpg

There you go. I obviously had no idea what I was talking about. I'm much better at the black skinny jeans and loose fitting t-shirts I always seems to end up in.


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Old 06-06-2015, 02:01 PM
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The reason I ask is because I've seen pix of a lot of royals brides who have strap less under lace, and it's becoming quite repetitive.
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Old 06-06-2015, 02:42 PM
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The reason I ask is because I've seen pix of a lot of royals brides who have strap less under lace, and it's becoming quite repetitive.
Well, the lace means it's not strapless, of course.

Prominent use of lace has been a recent trend with wedding dresses (which isn't to say it wasn't often used before, of course), much like how strapless wedding dresses started becoming a trend in the '90s. And strapless dresses seem to be slowly fading out of style.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I know I read many years ago that Queen Elizabeth II's wedding gown was officially ok'd by then head of C of E prior to it's making. A drawing was presented and signed. This illustration still in private papers of queen. Has anyone else read about this years ago?
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In what countries does the civil ceremony come before the religious ceremony? Are there any countries in which the religious ceremony comes before the civil ceremony?

When the imperial couple marry in Russia, two crowns were held above the couple's heads. Were the crowns the property of the church?
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When the imperial couple marry in Russia, two crowns were held above the couple's heads. Were the crowns the property of the church?
I believe the actual crowns held above their heads during the ceremony likely belonged to the church.

But beyond that, the bride would have on her head (not held above) but a crown and a tiara. The 'nuptial' jewels of the Russian royals were extensive.

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In wedding ceremonies performed in an Orthodox Church crowns are held above the bride and groom, usually by family members, before being placed on their heads. The crowns can be metal but can also be simple garlands made from flowers.

Customs vary but in the past the crowns belonged to the bridal couple who were even expected to wear them for several days after the wedding. Today many Orthodox churches will provide crowns if the bride and groom chose not to provide their own (in which case the crowns must be returned after the ceremony).

I suspect the Romanovs provided their own crowns. They certainly wouldn't want to use "common" crowns worn by others! The "Nuptial Crown" mentioned in the article posted above by Countessmeout was the crown used by generations of Romanov brides - held over them during the ceremony before being placed on their heads.
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Why do weddings in the British royal family use the alternative liturgy rather than the default liturgy for weddings in the Church of England?

https://www.churchofengland.org/pray...rship/marriage
https://www.churchofengland.org/pray...tion-matrimony

Is there confirmation that the alternative liturgy will be used for Prince Harry's wedding as well?
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:54 AM
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In what countries does the civil ceremony come before the religious ceremony? Are there any countries in which the religious ceremony comes before the civil ceremony?
I don't think there are any western countries where the religious wedding takes place before the civil. Not sure about islamic countries.

Among those requiring a civil wedding before a religious wedding can be held are the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany.
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In almost all countries on the Continent a legal marriage is required. Also in Spain and Italy, but there a religious officiant can be legally registered by the State and be allowed to officiate at weddings, if so, then such a religious marriage can be registered as civil union indeed.

In all cases it is the civil union which counts.
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Royal Wedding- Need to be in a Chapel?

Hello, I was just wondering if you are a minor royal (or the sibling to the heir e.g Prince Harry) do you have to get married in a chapel or could you choose to get married in a garden wedding ect? Was just wondering what the rules are for royals who are not in heir? - mainly thinking about British Royal Family but happy to hear about others also.

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Old 10-14-2018, 06:40 AM
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I don't think garden weddings are that popular in the UK - probably because of the unpredictable weather.

I do not see a reason why an Anglican wedding could not take place in a garden if the local regulations provide for that.

A foreign example: just last week the future duke of Alba (highest in rank after the Spanish royal family) got married in the garden instead of the chapel of Liria Palace.
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Religious Weddings [which are usual in the BRF] can ONLY take place on 'Consecrated ground'. ie in a Church. so no Garden Weddings there..
Civil Weddings can be held wherever a licence to hold them is granted...
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Old 10-14-2018, 07:53 AM
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Hello, I was just wondering if you are a minor royal (or the sibling to the heir e.g Prince Harry) do you have to get married in a chapel or could you choose to get married in a garden wedding ect? Was just wondering what the rules are for royals who are not in heir? - mainly thinking about British Royal Family but happy to hear about others also.

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The heir to the British throne married in a registry office which would suggest rather conclusively that there is no need for a church/chapel wedding, even in Britain. It is usual in Britain because of the fact that the CoE is an established church with bishops having seats in the House of Lords and those same bishops being appointed by the Queen on the say-so of the Prime Minister.

In some of the European countries it is necessary to have a civil service for the marriage to be legal. They may then choose to have a religious service if they wish.
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And the Duke of Windsor was married in the music room of a French chateau.

Which seemed the only place at the time the wedding might indeed be allowed to happen.
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Religious Weddings [which are usual in the BRF] can ONLY take place on 'Consecrated ground'. ie in a Church. so no Garden Weddings there..
Civil Weddings can be held wherever a licence to hold them is granted...
Is that a requirement by the Anglican church? Edit: found this website and although it doesn't explicitly say it is required it is assumed that the church wedding indeed takes place in a church building.

If any church would require it, I would think it would be the Roman Catholic church, nonetheless the duke of Hurscar had his roman catholic wedding in the garden of Liria Palacd last week. So apparently it is not that hard to get around it (probably consecrating the garden for that day?).

Protestant church don't consecrate church buildings, so the 'consecrated ground' argument wouldn't hold for all churches.
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