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Old 10-25-2006, 11:49 AM
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CP Naruhito!

Yes, CP Naruhito has really and rarely struggled against IHA power, in order to save and protect her heart and soul. It was just his word at their engagement, and done it. However it was unpermissible scandal, for feudalistic establishment.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:25 PM
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I think "rumors" like this get planted by people who would *like* to see Naruhito and Masako divorce, but the reality is that he seems very loyal to her and totally devoted. True, even great marriages can go sour but I think for the Japanese CP couple, theirs is pretty stable.
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:31 PM
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:38 PM
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Thanks again, Jackswife!

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True, even great marriages can go sour but I think for the Japanese CP couple, theirs is pretty stable.
We are so happy to meet you such... "Great marriages can go sour..." has really deeply touched me.
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:58 AM
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Mysunshine,

I sent you a private message on this; sorry I just read this thread again now.

I firmly believe that Masako is getting better so the road ahead for the this family will be smoother. I just love how they are together!
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Old 11-05-2006, 07:10 AM
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Maybe this has been asked elsewhere, but why can't the Imperial Family just get rid of the IHA? Don't they have some authority over them? Why is Japan the only country that has an agency that can get away with cruel treatment towards its' royal family?
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:39 PM
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:36 PM
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Really good question, RublyPrincess168!

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Maybe this has been asked elsewhere, but why can't the Imperial Family just get rid of the IHA? Don't they have some authority over them? Why is Japan the only country that has an agency that can get away with cruel treatment towards its' royal family?
Very very oddly, Old feudal establishments have had power & authority, like as repeating custom and so-called Japanese tradition, since Tokugawa-300-year cruel history.

Even Emperor Akihito, who was just frontier of Imperial histroy with Emperess Michiko, is now confusing among the balance between the old one and new democratic frontier, CP Naruhito, CP Masako and princess Aiko.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:26 AM
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...why can't the Imperial Family just get rid of the IHA?
Prior to the end of WWII the Imperial Household Ministry, as it was then known, was one of Japan's most powerful bureaucracies, with large property and financial assets. It had powers which allowed it to operate independently of the government and was directly involved in state affairs.

After the War it was renamed and scaled down, and is now an arm of the Prime Minister's Office, although the Prime Minister must go through ther IHA to speak to the Emperor. The IHA controls most aspects of the Imperial Family's lives, including their finances, and determines their contact with the outside world.

The Imperial Family as a whole may well accept the role of the IHA because it protects them from unwelcome intrusion (but at a high price). It is significant that when CP Naruhito defended his wife in 2004, his brother labelled the comments "regrettable" and the Crown Prince later apologised for "causing trouble for the Emperor and Empress."
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Old 11-11-2006, 01:48 PM
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Prior to the end of WWII the Imperial Household Ministry, as it was then known, was one of Japan's most powerful bureaucracies, with large property and financial assets. It had powers which allowed it to operate independently of the government and was directly involved in state affairs.

After the War it was renamed and scaled down, and is now an arm of the Prime Minister's Office, although the Prime Minister must go through ther IHA to speak to the Emperor. The IHA controls most aspects of the Imperial Family's lives, including their finances, and determines their contact with the outside world.

The Imperial Family as a whole may well accept the role of the IHA because it protects them from unwelcome intrusion (but at a high price). It is significant that when CP Naruhito defended his wife in 2004, his brother labelled the comments "regrettable" and the Crown Prince later apologised for "causing trouble for the Emperor and Empress."
Can you explain what is meant by "causing trouble for the Emperor and Empress?" What exactly happened to them as a result?
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"causing trouble for the Emperor and Empress?"

Perhaps, it will be difficult to understand for westner the above phrase, because even some arguments or critics had resulted "social guilty" in Japanese traditional culture, without exception.

Naturally CP Naruhito has well done and realized "universal justice" even in the narrow and closed dumb society, despite Akihito Emperor's temporal confusion. Plus Congratulations for independent healing & one-step recovery for Crown Princess Masako!
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Old 12-13-2006, 02:58 AM
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This remember me to the story of the Chah of Iran and Princess Soraya Isfandiari Bakhtiari.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:00 AM
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Again problems in the marriage of the Japanese Crown Prince

In the biggest Dutch current affairs weekly Elsevier, compare it with Time or Newsweek, there was an article about new problems in the marriage of the Japanese Crown Prince.

The holiday on Het Oude Loo (Queen Beatrix' weekend retreat in the east of the Netherlands) has apparently not been the start of the recovery. For years Princess Masako is suffering stress as a consequence -so is assumed- of the pressure on her to give birth to a male heir. The only child of Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako is a girl.

In September Crown Prince Naruhito's younger brother, Prince Akishino, became father of a son, named Prince Hisahito. This Prince Hisahito is now third in the line of succession, after his uncle Crown Prince Naruhito and his father Prince Akishino.

According to a communiqué by the imperial court, Princess Masako needs more time for her recovery. Therefore the public duties of the Crown Prince and Princess Masako are more and more separated. Despite the fact that the imperial court announced that there still will be joint public appearances by Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako, this communiqué will undoubtedly give fuel to new speculations about problems in the marriage of Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako.

In August 2006 the Crown Prince and Princess Masako were invited, together with their daughter Princess Aiko, for a holiday on Het Oude Loo estate, the weekend retreat of Queen Beatrix. This was the first foreign holiday of the crown princely couple in 13 years. Away from the strict protocol at the Japanese imperial court, and in the relaxed, beautiful surroundings of Queen Beatrix' medieaeval retreat, it was hoped that Princess Masako would re-find the rest she misses so much in her own country.

The long vacation in the Netherlands was reported by masses of Japanese media, like every step of the Crown Prince and of Princess Masako is reported into detail. Despite the wonderful and relaxed images of a happy and relaxed encounter between the Japanese and Dutch crown princely families, their well-meant efforts seems not to have had the hoped effect.
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Old 12-16-2006, 12:49 PM
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Ye Gods and Little Fishes,

If they did get a divorce what woman in her right mind would marry into such a situation. Poor crown princess, does not produce baby boy, driven to repeated edge and over edge of nervous breakdown and lives life of stressed out hell. Now who would want that kind of a life, pray tell me. After all he could marry some throughly vetted helthy and luscious young breeder with plenty of brains (who would still marry into that snakepit)-such an idea is an oxymoron indeed-and then she might not be able to deliver the goods because Papa Crown Prince cannot biologically keep up his end of the bargin, as it were. No woman in her right mind would go near such a mess and if a woman did she would be suspicious goods indeed. Cheers.

Now with all the medical science available I cannot for the life of me understand why those idiots in the IHA did react more intelligently, allow the Crown Princess to go off on trips with her husband and be with him as much as possible. That how people have babies, as if these total idiots could not figure that one out.
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Old 12-16-2006, 01:22 PM
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I wish people would leave speculation about their little family alone. Just because a person is sick, that doesn't mean their family is destined for ruin!
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Old 12-22-2006, 08:43 AM
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In the biggest Dutch current affairs weekly Elsevier, compare it with Time or Newsweek, there was an article about new problems in the marriage of the Japanese Crown Prince.

The holiday on Het Oude Loo (Queen Beatrix' weekend retreat in the east of the Netherlands) has apparently not been the start of the recovery. For years Princess Masako is suffering stress as a consequence -so is assumed- of the pressure on her to give birth to a male heir. The only child of Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako is a girl.

According to a communiqué by the imperial court, Princess Masako needs more time for her recovery. Therefore the public duties of the Crown Prince and Princess Masako are more and more separated. Despite the fact that the imperial court announced that there still will be joint public appearances by Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako, this communiqué will undoubtedly give fuel to new speculations about problems in the marriage of Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako.

The long vacation in the Netherlands was reported by masses of Japanese media, like every step of the Crown Prince and of Princess Masako is reported into detail. Despite the wonderful and relaxed images of a happy and relaxed encounter between the Japanese and Dutch crown princely families, their well-meant efforts seems not to have had the hoped effect.
Interesting article, though i think the media need to realise that it will take time for CP Masako to recover from her illness. It doesn't happen overnight. As for seperate duties - it doesn't mean they will divorce or anything.

Personally i am unsure about the divorce rumours. There is a part of me that thinks that CP Masako will leave her husband to get away from all the hassle she has been getting. But another part of me thinks she will stay, not only because she loves her husband, but also because of her child and tradition.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:25 PM
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I don't think they'll get divorce. The Prince loves Masako so much. She's his dream wife. I'm sure that Masako also very much in love with her husband. Besides, they have such a beautiful daughter Aiko. The Princess may need some more time for her recovery but I'm sure that her family (esp. Her husband & daughter) will always support her.
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I still think her problem was and has always been post-partum depression.
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I still think her problem was and has always been post-partum depression.
Has Masako's doctor ever confirmed this diagnosis? Can you provide links to articles/books on which you base your opinion because I don't think anyone can diagnose postpartum depression simply by looking at pictures.
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Old 12-31-2006, 03:28 AM
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Yeah if Naruhito didn't respect his father so much, I bet Naruhito would beat the crap out of the IHA people! Those people are sooo evil! :-(
I wouldnt be surprised that Naruhito beat the crap out of the IHA one of these days since he stood up for Masako condition. It is all the matter of time when Naruhito would burst and kick the IHA's ass to high heaven and back again. I also wold not mind if Naruhito also gave the boot the his younger brother for the "i'm so much better than you" attitude and look. Those two things happening would be something I would be willing to pay to watch.
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