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I just don't understand why it would be a bad thing if Naruhito were to stand aside in favor of his brother?
If Masako is mentally ill, then she'd be unable to fulfill her duties as Empress.
And if she isn't, then apparently she isn't interested in fulfilling her duties.

Either way, she would be better off in private life where there wouldn't be so much pressure.
It seems as if the Emperor is closer to his younger son anyway. So why couldn't Naruhito step aside? Wouldn't everyone be happier if he did?
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:28 PM
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... Wouldn't everyone be happier if he did?
The Crown Prince was raized to become an Emperor.
Why would he be happy not to fullfil the goal of his life?
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The Crown Prince was raized to become an Emperor.
Why would he be happy not to fullfil the goal of his life?


Because of the unhappiness it is causing his family?
His wife seems miserable in that lifestyle, and he has said he intends to support her.

Perhaps he should reconsider whether his goal is compatible with his family's happiness.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:23 PM
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...His wife seems miserable in that lifestyle, and he has said he intends to support her...
The Crown Princess does not seem 'miserable' in the recent photos, and HIH the Princess Toshi looks adorable.
See post # 253 - picture posted by iceflower

The Crown Princely couple are happy family, since the wife has all care and support of her husband.
And since you are not an insider, your allegations about their 'unhappy family life' are only allegations.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:19 PM
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The Crown Princess does not seem 'miserable' in the recent photos, and HIH the Princess Toshi looks adorable.
See post # 253 - picture posted by iceflower

The Crown Princely couple are happy family, since the wife has all care and support of her husband.
And since you are not an insider, your allegations about their 'unhappy family life' are only allegations.
Perhaps that is so, but Naruhito must do all these trips and other duties alone. And this has been the case for years now. It is said Masako is ill but no one seems to know what is the matter. Their daughter is still reluctant to attend school.

That does not look like a happy situation.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:25 PM
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I think that Crown Prince Naruhito shouldn't step aside because a)becoming Emperor is his birthright; and b) he hasn't done anything unethical or immoral.

The current Empress had nervous breakdowns and yet seems to be admired and respected. I don't see any reason why Crown Prince Masako can't be the same one day, providing she continues to receive treatment and take on tasks as she's able.


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Old 06-27-2011, 07:15 PM
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I don't know a lot about the imperial family of Japan. But apparently Masako's mother-in-law, her predecessor, also went kind of nuts because of the way things were handled when she married into the family.
Naruhito, stepping aside, would be like saying he did something wrong when he hasn't.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:33 AM
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I don't know a lot about the imperial family of Japan. But apparently Masako's mother-in-law, her predecessor, also went kind of nuts because of the way things were handled when she married into the family.

But the current Empress' breakdown lasted only a very short time, not years and years. It is a totally different situation, imo.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:34 AM
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^but the empress produced 2 males, the monarchy was safe.
and masako didnt, she had only one daughter, and for a monarchy who only allows males to reign, i bet its a pain in the ass to get bad publicity and lots of pressure before Hisahito was born!

also, Masako seems to be more happy nowadays, shes been visiting the victims of the great earthquake. the royal family has an heir right now, so she gets less pressure finally!
and we must not forget, that japanese crown princesses have not the same duties as others westerns. she is not suppose to have charity organizations, attend events and such. her role is to support her husband and be by his side!
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... Naruhito, stepping aside, would be like saying he did something wrong when he hasn't.
Well said, XeniaCasaraghi! Nothing much to add on the topic.
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... japanese crown princesses have not the same duties as others westerns. she is not suppose to have charity organizations, attend events and such. her role is to support her husband and be by his side!
That is not accurate.
The Imperial princesses have a lot of charity work, Japanese Red Cross, for example.
Just lurk through the official site of the Imperial family.
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At the risk of sounding heartless, I have had problems in the past and she has no business not starting to take charge of what aspects of her life she can. If she's sick, she's likely at this point not helping herself. It sounds like it's really hard on Aiko and she has to figure out some way of adjusting and accepting her life. She needs to get to Naruhito's side or walk away. If it's killing her, she needs to break away. There is no more pressure for her to have and heir and she has been seen out at restaurants and not doing duties in the past. Time for her ot whip herself into shape.
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Or perhaps she's more ill than any of us realize.


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Or perhaps she's more ill than any of us realize.

Perhaps, but when she is seen in public, she doesn't appear to be ill.

(I know that doesn't mean much; she could still have a psychological disorder, but I think it would be to her advantage to be more forthcoming about it).
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Old 07-09-2011, 05:23 PM
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The Japanese Imperial family is not going to discuss such issue in public much. The IHA oversees a flow of information between the Imperial family and the Japanese. More details about Crown Princess Masako's health condition will be provided to the public at large whenever the IHA deems it necessary/appropriate.
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If Masako has been out in public with her husband than it would appear she is doing her job and is taking control of her life, so what's the problem? She didn't produce a son, so that must be a sore point for her, but thankfully the family does have a male heir now so at least some pressure is off Masako. I can't help feeling for the woman because a) her mother in law went bonkers also and b) she turned down the marriage proposal a lot before finally saying yes.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:57 PM
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People with disorders can function well for periods of time, especially with the help of medication. For all we know, she could take a mild sedative before she appears in public.

Possibly the reason that her illness isn't discussed in depth is that it would be embarrassing for her and her family. For a person who suffers from an emotional or mental problem, knowing that other people know can increase anxiety. Also, she might have a problem that has resulted in occasionally strange or bizarre behaviour. I have a friend who has a dissociative disorder, for example. People make cruel remarks about her without understanding what it was that caused her problem or how hard she's worked to overcome her symptoms.

I get the impression that some people think that CP Masako simply has a case of "bad nerves," and all she has to do is "pull herself up by her bootstraps" and all will be well; but I think that it could be something much more serious than that. I'm of this opinion because it's taken her so long to recover and be able to do foreign visits and more appearances in Japan.



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Perhaps, but when she is seen in public, she doesn't appear to be ill.

(I know that doesn't mean much; she could still have a psychological disorder, but I think it would be to her advantage to be more forthcoming about it).
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:54 PM
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On a French Tv programme they mentioned that Masako's illness intensified with the birth of her nephew ,who will be the next Emperor instead of her daughter Aiko.I wonder if that's true.
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If Masako has been out in public with her husband than it would appear she is doing her job and is taking control of her life, so what's the problem?
But, is she out in public with her husband? I know Masako made one or two appearances to console victims of the earthquake; is she still doing that, or was that the extent of her public outings?

Has she truly resumed public life or did she make a few token appearances and then go back into hiding?
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On a French Tv programme they mentioned that Masako's illness intensified with the birth of her nephew ,who will be the next Emperor instead of her daughter Aiko.I wonder if that's true.

It is certainly very unfair and to an accomplished woman like the Crown Princess such a sexist policy must seem positively antediluvian.
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